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Old 11-18-2003, 01:41 PM
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The Incredible Lying BushCo
This just in: More irrefutable proof that Dubya's is the slimiest administration in 100 years
By Mark Morford, Columnist
Friday, October 31, 2003

Like you even needed more proof.

Like you even need to read about the incredible and ever-increasing list of lies and misinfo and deeply, humiliating wrongness shot forth from the mouth of the GOP machine, a truly jaw-dropping assortment of falsehoods and fabrications about war, and war, and war. Oh, and the economy. And the environment. And war.

Look. There is no doubt left. Zero. None. Even many high-ranking Republicans are deeply worried over the increasingly embittered national timbre regarding BushCo's lies, as reflected in his ever-slipping ratings and declining reelectability quotient and his smug little smirky emptiness.

Do you need to be reminded? Do you need to see it again?
Very good, then. Let us recap: No WMDs. Biggest joke on the American public in the past 50 years. Saddam doesn't have 'em, and probably never did. Over 1,400 of BushCo's own investigators and specialists and scientists -- affectionately known as the Iraq Survey Group -- canvassing postwar Iraq for six months, not to mention the teams of original U.N. investigators, and finding not a trace of anything resembling huge stockpiles of massive scary weaponry.

Which is to say, no nukes. No biotoxins. No big cannons full of scary Korans and rusty bullets and old gum. Nothing at all resembling what Condi Rice and Cheney and Rummy and Wolfowitz, et al., said were absolutely positively no question going to be found any day now because after all that's why we went to war. Except that it wasn't. And they knew it.

To paraphrase The Washington Post: Among the judgments of the above-mentioned Iraq Survey Group, as overseen by David Kay, who reports directly to CIA Director George Tenet, are these: Iraq's nuclear-weapons scientists did no significant arms-related work after 1991. Also, all those facilities with suspicious new construction (remember Colin "Emasculated" Powell's bogus satellite photos?) proved benign, and of no military use whatsoever.

This is not speculation. This is not liberal wishful thinking. These are facts. And BushCo knew them. And more.

Translation: Bush's urgent call back in March to bomb the living crap out of pissant Iraq because Saddam had irrefutably cranked up his nuke arsenal and might possibly bomb weak depressed New York at any minute and wipe out all the Starbucks and ruin Monday Night Football was not only completely bogus and impossible, it was shockingly dangerous, and unprecedented, and even borderline treasonous.

Remember how Saddam ostensibly loved al Qaeda? Remember how Uncle Dick helped drill that terrorism connection into the cultural consciousness, repeatedly, across all media for months on end just before the war, thus inducing upward of 50 percent of the disturbingly gullible U.S. population to believe that Saddam actually had a hand in 9/11? When he didn't? When there was no connection whatsoever? Remember that?

Ah, yes. It turns out that all intelligence and every piece of evidence points exactly the opposite way. As BushCo was well informed, Saddam might only make contact with al Qaeda -- his sworn enemies -- if his back was against the wall, and probably not even then.

More? Sure. How about Afghanistan? Remember that? Osama at large. Never captured. Taliban resurfacing. No aid for the country and no rebuilding (except for a shiny new oil pipeline) and complete devastation and neglect.

And even Rummy, in his private and damning memo, said as much, just last week, writing that there is absolutely no way to tell whether we are making any progress in the war on terror, and that "victory" would be "a long, hard slog," and that it was impossible to say whether we are killing known terrorists any faster than the increasingly furious and inspired madrassas, or Islamic fundamentalist schools, can manufacture them.

"This is a man that we know has had connections with al Qaeda. This is a man who, in my judgment, would like to use al Qaeda as a forward army." -- President Bush, Oct. 14, 2002

"Yes, there is a linkage between al Qaeda and Iraq." -- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Sept. 26, 2002

"There have been contacts between senior Iraqi officials and members of al Qaeda going back for actually quite a long time." -- National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice, Sept. 25, 2002

Isn't that something? Not a single one of those statements was true. And not a single one of those people is being accused of treason or malfeasance or of being a soulless anti-American warmongering drone, despite how their words were dripping with lies when they exited their mouths.

Look. Bush told Americans we were going to enter into this savage and bloody war no one really wanted because Iraq posed an immediate and imminent threat to the security of the U.S. and its citizens. He gutted the economy for it. He destroyed long-standing relationships with countless international allies for it. He made America into this rogue superpower, disrespected and untrustable and appalling, for it. And it was never true.

How about this? More soldiers have died since BushCo declared the war essentially over six months ago than during the war itself. And guerrilla attacks on U.S. forces have more than doubled over recent months to more than 25 per day, with fresh American causalities coming in nonstop.

No matter, says the GOP. All part of the clumsy "rebuilding" process, they say. By the way, that $87 billion BushCo just begged for to keep the Iraq war machine clunking along? That's more than the fiscal debt of all the gutted U.S. states combined. Iraq is, by every account, a devastating U.S. money pit.

And you know why this dosen't matter, according to the GOP? Because we got rid of a pesky evil pip-squeak tyrant, that's why. One who was zero threat to the U.S., and not much of a threat to neighboring countries, and had no 9/11 connection, but who we know killed lots of his own people 20 years ago, with America's full and complicit assistance, including the biotoxins we sold to him. Just ask Donald Rumsfeld, he was there when we sold them to Sadam during the Reagen administration!

And now he's gone. Yay! Mission accomplished! Except, of course, he's not. Still alive, apparently. But he's hiding somewhere! And he's probably really furious that he had to shave his mustache, too! Ha! That oughta show him! That's $300 billion and hundreds of dead U.S. soldiers well spent, baby! God bless America.
This needs to be said. This needs to be repeated, over and over again, because apparently it is still not clear and apparently Republican apologists love to trot it out as some sort of justification, some sort of hollow and childish accusation, signifying nothing.

Yes, Bill Clinton lied, too. He lied about stupid adulterous sex. And the GOP savaged him like rabid feral swine attacking a rutabaga. Had him impeached over it. Loathe him still, and his wife, too, with unprecedented level of hatred and bile and vicious litigious action never before seen in this nation.

No such fate for BushCo. Shockingly, the GOP isn't the slightest bit upset about this pro-corporate, oil-drunk administration's deadly string of lies. Shall we wonder why? Or is it just too poisonous and sad to consider for very long, lest the intellect curdle and the soul recoil?

OK, I'll spell it out: George W. Bush and his entire senior administration lied, and continue to lie, flagrantly, openly, knowingly, with full intent, about the need to drive this nation into a brutal and terrible and fiscally debilitating war, one that protects no one and inhibits no terrorism ( and,according to most experts probably made it MORE likely they will attack U.S. interests) and defends nothing but BushCo's own petrochemical cronies and political stratagems.

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Old 11-18-2003, 02:33 PM
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Gimpy, you,re right about everything you said but like all the Bushes say don't mean nothing, but I've been reading some old news papers storys about 40 years back. to tell you the truth I had to look again at the year to make sure that I hadn't started reading 2003 they are so close it's not funny things like win the hearts and mines (66,64,65,) (03) Gen. W.Westmorelands saying that the VC (guerilla) were only about 20,000 now Gen Abzaid saying that there only about 5,000. and much more thats only the tip of the iceberg. but I'll keep looking.


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Gimpy, a friend of mine just sent me a humdinger of a joke about you know who....about heaven and hell and him having to choose which.....

Have you heard it?

Lies are common among the Princes. Which should tell the ending of the story.
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For those still residing in Rio Linda, your reality phone has been ringing, and you need to listen:

Woolsey: Iraq-al Qaeda Link a 'Slam Dunk'

Former CIA director James Woolsey said over the weekend that there's no question Iraq and al Qaeda worked together to plan attacks against U.S. interests during the decade leading up to 9/11, describing the evidence of an operational relationship as "a slam dunk." Commenting on a memo issued by the Defense Department to the Senate Intelligence Committee and revealed by the Weekly Standard late Friday, Woolsey told CNN's "Late Edition," "Anybody who says there is no working relationship between al Qaeda and Iraqi intelligence going back to the early '90s, they can only say that if they're illiterate."

"This is a slam dunk," the Clinton-era CIA chief contended, noting that his successor, George Tenet, had said the same thing in briefings last year. "George Tenet ... said there'd been a relationship going back a decade. Training in ? by Iraqi intelligence of al Qaeda in, quote, 'poisons, gases and explosives,'" the ex-CIA chief recalled, adding, "This memo expands on that."
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Old 11-19-2003, 08:17 AM
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Man, you REALLY better go back and check the "dosage" on your "meds" there SuperFella. Don't you realize how silly and UNinformed you're starting to sound? Either that or you just LOVE to go around spreading lies & deception like your boy Dubya??

That damn "memo" or "letter" was DE-BUNKED by none other than the DEFENSE DEPARTMENT last week! Whatsamatta, Rummy forget to "copy" you on his mailing lists???

Woolsley don't have a FREAKIN CLUE what he's talkin about!

This is nothing but bogus bull $hit!
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DoD Statement on News Reports of al-Qaida and Iraq Connections
News reports that the Defense Department recently confirmed new information with respect to contacts between al-Qaida and Iraq in a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee are inaccurate.



A letter was sent to the Senate Intelligence Committee on October 27, 2003 from Douglas J. Feith, Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, in response to follow-up questions from his July 10 testimony. One of the questions posed by the committee asked the Department to provide the reports from the Intelligence Community to which he referred in his testimony before the Committee. These reports dealt with the relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida.



The letter to the committee included a classified annex containing a list and description of the requested reports, so that the Committee could obtain the reports from the relevant members of the Intelligence Community.



The items listed in the classified annex were either raw reports or products of the CIA, the NSA, or, in one case, the DIA. The provision of the classified annex to the Intelligence Committee was cleared by other agencies and done with the permission of the Intelligence Community. The selection of the documents was made by DOD to respond to the Committee?s question. The classified annex was not an analysis of the substantive issue of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaida, and it drew no conclusions.



Individuals who leak or purport to leak classified information are doing serious harm to national security; such activity is deplorable and may be illegal.



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There you have it...........MORE of your horseshit EXPOSED!

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...is obviously pinching off what little oxygen is flowing to your brain, causing you to wallow in your slime pit of hatred. I do believe that your rectitus will be the death of you yet!

Your careful cutting and pasting revealed a website that doesn't work, much like your logic. And your disdain for Woolsey is exceeded only by your hero's (Der Schlickmeister) and his failure to ever meet, not once, personally and privately, with Woolsey when he was the director of the CIA. In one of those moments where you're seeking true enlightenment, get a copy of "Losing bin Laden: How Bill Clinton's Failures Unleashed Global Terror." I'll issue a dare: read this book, and see if it doesn't alter, ever so slightly, your perspective. Heck, I'll go one further: read the book with an open mind (try, really try), and I guarantee it will cure your terminal case of rectitus.
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Default Nice try again there SuperSleuth!

I'll make it a little simpler for your limited intercranial deficiency disease and apparent disadvantage of cognizant awareness & judgemental abilities to adequately pursue the information I've supplied for your perusement.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO THE DOD WEB SITE AND LOOK UNDER "PRESS RELEASES" AND SCROLL DOWN TO 11/15/2003 AND YOU'LL SEE I SPEAK NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!

But, here it is again.................I know you haver trouble remembering important "STUFF", HUH?

I say AGAIN!...........The memo from FEITH and WOOSLEYS comments are BOGUS!!!! Hell, YOUR BOY.....RUMMY even says so!!

You don't belive it??? GO HERE! http://www.dod.mil/releases/

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News reports that the Defense Department recently confirmed new information with respect to contacts between al Qaeda and Iraq in a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee are inaccurate.



A letter was sent to the Senate Intelligence Committee on Oct. 27, 2003, from Douglas J. Feith, under secretary of defense for policy, in response to follow-up questions from his July 10 testimony. One of the questions posed by the committee asked the department to provide the reports from the intelligence community to which he referred in his testimony before the committee. These reports dealt with the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda.



The letter to the committee included a classified annex containing a list and description of the requested reports, so that the committee could obtain the reports from the relevant members of the intelligence community.



The items listed in the classified annex were either raw reports or products of the CIA, the National Security Agency or, in one case, the Defense Intelligence Agency. The provision of the classified annex to the Intelligence Committee was cleared by other agencies and done with the permission of the intelligence community. The selection of the documents was made by DoD to respond to the committee?s question. The classified annex was not an analysis of the substantive issue of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda, and it drew no conclusions.



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Maybe this will "cure" your case of limited intercranial deficiency disease and apparent disadvantage of cognizant awareness & judgemental abilities. But I doubt it!

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... but that's not surprising! Kindly let me recommend a remedial reading course for you - better yet, go ahead, sign up for one, and send me the bill. The ten-of-thousands I got in my tax refund, tee-hee, should just about cover it.

What you failed to understand, not surprisingly, is that the DoD was simply stating the obvious, that the entire letter as presented by Feith was not 100% accurate and true. And just to give you a little hint, in the world of intelligence, at either the tactical or strategic level, rarely if ever are there 100% accurate assessments. And remember, this is the committee of such sterling patriots as Sen. Rockefeller, whose internal memo was rightfully deemed by another Senator, as " ... if this is not treason, it's the first cousin to it..." Oh, yes, that was Senator Zell Miller, D-GA, who will be voting for George W. Bush for President of the United States, in November, 2004. You can join us, and be amongst the winners, or not, and be amongst the whiners.
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committing 'TREASON " lately is your boy GEE-DUBYA, KARL ROVE and the other criminals in the whitehouse that are guilty of releasing Wilsons' wife name out to Robert Novak and are now in the process of covering up their treasonous actions!

BTW.........Zell Miller wouldn't make a good sized "pimple" on the a$$ of a TRUE patriot! This is the son-of-a-bitch that tried his BEST to change the "Stars & Bars" from the Georgia flag while Governor to appease the "black community business leaders" threatening a "boycott" of Georgia businesses, then changed his damn "tune" when he was "appointed" to the Senate to replace deceased Rep. Senator Paul Coverdale by the then Democratic Governor Roy Barnes! He was so damn afraid of his political position that when he got that job (Senator), he spoke out IN FAVOR of NOT changing the damn thing (the flag), which went AGAINST Barnes who apponted him to the Senate (who DID change the flag) and Zell supported his opponent in the next Governors race, Republican Sonny Perdue (whose ENTIRE campaign centered on the Flag issue and PROMISED to change it BACK to include the "Stars & bars!), who BTW STILL hasn't changed it BACK to what it was! Talk about a wishy-washy-weasel, lieing, double-talking son-of-a-bitch...............He sure as hell OUGHT to know what a "traitor" looks like alright.........he sees one everry damn morning in the mirror!

One more thing............I give you the "PROOF" that you accused me of denying to you because of an "unavailble" web site...(which it WASN'T)....that outlines in specific detail, ie: "News reports that the Defense Department recently confirmed new information with respect to contacts between al Qaeda and Iraq in a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee are inaccurate.", end quote! And then YOU go into your condescending, drival of an "interpretation" of what you THINK (I use that very reluctantly BTW, your intercranial deficiency alluded to previously indicates a serious thought process on your part extremely UNlikely) the memorandum or press release is inferring something OTHER than what it CLEARLY STATES!

I don't SEE any conclusions drawn concerning anything like 100% accurate, 80% accurate, 70% accurate, etc., etc.,. I UNDERSTAND COMPLETLY what this press release states......it's YOU who are denying the authenticity & accuracy of it's content. Which, of course, should be expected....from one who so aligns himself with this type behavior!

You're just like your "buddies" in the Whitehouse and this administration there SuperSleuth............DECEIVE, DISTORT, DENY the T-R-U-T-H in any and all ways at your disposal to cover up the CRIMINAL behavior of those "thugs" that are leading the country down the road to ruin!!

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Ah, the latest news: just saw another, yes, another report of the irrefutable link between Al Qeada and SH. But if you don't want to believe it, you are certainly welcome to continue in your delusional teeny tiny world of hatred. And if you have any proof, other than your overwrought vocal cords about the White House personnel releasing the name of the CIA employee, RUN, don't walk, RUN to your nearest Federal attorney, and spill your guts to them. You will probably be nominated for a Pulitzer Prize! And don't forget to bring along your reporters from the National Enquirer, and your tin foil hat to complete the scene. You can't prove your outrageous charges and lies, and all you can do is make libelous statements. I really fell sorry for you.
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