birth certificate story

[darrels joy]

Although I don't think Obama is stupid enough to try it, I will add fuel to the fire....





Obama would have to be extremely lacking cognitive aptitude to try and run for president without being a natural born citizen. That is why I don't think that he would try it. But what baffles me is the birth certificate that I have seen on his web site. Since Obama and I share one thing in common, and let me stress the key operative word of that first part - "one", I thought that I would share my birth certificate (front and back, with signature) with the world, minus the personal stuff. Since we were both born in Hawaii, and our copies of our official birth certificate would be on record at the same place, I would think that his would look at least a little like mine, especially since I actually went to the Health Department and paid the $10.00 to get mine while standing in line. That is why I don't understand why the one posted at his site looks so much different than mine.
http://experimentumcrucis.blogspot.c...is-stupid.html

[darrels joy]

Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes

Filed under Opinion Editorials, Media objectivity, USA foreign policy, US elections, Law and courts - on Monday, October 13, 2008 - By: Yonah, Tamar

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Someone is lying. According to Obama's Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as the Democratic candidate for president claims. His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room. -This, according to several news sites and Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg (see video below) who is, surprisingly, a life long democrat himself. Berg is the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, and he has an impressive background in his activities as a democrat, but his support for the party seemingly stops when it comes to his trust in Barack Hussein Obama.

Many U.S. voters are suspicious of the Democratic candidate's past, and Berg filed a lawsuit to force Barack Hussein Obama to produce a certified copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he can run for the office of President of the United States. However, he is being fought. The DNC On Sept. 24 filed a motion to dismiss the Berg action. Why? What is there to hide? Why not produce the original birth certificate and be done with all the suspicions against Barack Hussein Obama?

A few months back, a birth certificate WAS posted on the internet which shows that Obama was born in Hawaii. Yet some say this birth certificate is a forgery and again, his grandmother states that she was present at the birth, in Kenya. So what is the truth?

One explanation is that Obama's mother Ann Dunham, flew to Kenya in 1961 with Obama's father to meet his family. According to Google: Obama%27s+family+did+not+take+to+Stanley+Ann+Dunham+Obama+very+well%2c+because+she+was+white%2c+according+to+Sarah+Obama%2e+Shortly+after+she+arrived+in+Kenya+Stanley+Ann+decided+to+return+to+Hawaii+because+she+later+said%2c+she+did+not+like+how+Muslim+men+treated+their+wives+in+Kenya%2e+However%2c+because+she+was+near+term+the+airline+would+not+let+her+fly+until+after+the+birth+of+her+baby%2e+Obama%27s+grandmother+said+the+baby%e2%80%94Barack+Hussein+Obama%2c+Jr%2e%e2%80%94was+born+in+Kenya+and+that+shortly+after+he+was+born%2c+Stanley+Ann+returned+to+Hawaii%2e%22+site, Ann Dunham, was not accepted well by her husband's family because she was white:

"Obama's family did not take to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama very well, because she was white, according to Sarah Obama. Shortly after she arrived in Kenya Stanley Ann decided to return to Hawaii because she later said, she did not like how Muslim men treated their wives in Kenya. However, because she was near term the airline would not let her fly until after the birth of her baby. Obama's grandmother said the baby—Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.—was born in Kenya and that shortly after he was born, Stanley Ann returned to Hawaii."

However, by the time she wanted to leave Kenya, it was during the late stages of her pregnancy. She was not able to board a plane because the airlines wouldn't allow women so close to birth to fly. It is instead believed, that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya as his grandmother apparently stated. Then, after he was born, his mother returned with him to Hawaii where his birth was REGISTERED on or about August 8th, 1961, in the public records office in Hawaii.

There is also a discrepancy in what hospital Barack Hussein Obama was born in, even if he was born in Hawaii. Reports by his own sister in two separate interviews state that he was born at Google: %22he+was+born+at+two+separate+hospitals-- Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu.


The Times Herald even reports: "the senator's grandmother, brother and sister, who live in Kenya, believe they were present during Obama's birth in the African country." Here, the Times Herald uses the word that his family 'believe' he was born in Kenya (perhaps to avoid possible law suits by Obama's Truth Squad?).

Watch this interesting and important video clip.




I myself, not wanting to believe what I see, did some searching around, and this is what I came up with:
Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at the Kapiolani Medical Center.
and here it says:

Barack Obama was born at the Queen's Medical Centeron 4 August 1961. So which hospital was it, or was he really born in Kenya? And why is this simple matter so confusing and disturbing? Do the search your self and plug in these key words:

Obama born Queen's Medical Center and then Obama born Kapiolani Medical Center in a Google search. You will see he is reported to be born in two diferent hospitals. A miracle! Maybe he IS the Messiah (grin).

What's so hard about knowing something so simple as which hospital or country someone was born in? And if it is simple, then why doesn't Barack Hussein Obama just present the court with his original birth certificate to be analysed and proven? The onus of proof is on him, not the American public of which he wants their trust in him to be their leader.

So, who is lying? Barack? His grandmother? His sister? Someone is.

p.s. Dr. Jerome Corsi will be on my show today (Sunday) where I will be interviewing him about his recent trip to Kenya to promote his new book,

The Obama Nation
The Obama Nation

, and to see if he can find Obama's birth certificate.

Instead, he was arrested, held at gunpoint and deported from Kenya.

He's back in the States now and wants to talk. Listen to the showwhich airs at 9am eastern time.

The opinions and views articulated by the author do not necessarily reflect those of Israel e News.
http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=3324

[MORTARDUDE]

If this is so, why haven't lawsuits been filed ? if so, when ? where ? result ?

It seems important enough.

Larry

[Margaret Diann]

I think the Congress should change the Constitution ... QUICKLY
(You know how quickly Congress acted to NOT remove life support)

Then Schwarzenegger may some day run for President, too!

Judge Orders Obama to Produce Birth Certificate

This thread discusses the Content article:
Federal Judge Orders Obama to Produce Birth Certificate pdf 35 pages

ORDERED that the Motion to Dismiss pursuant to F.R.C.P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6) is DENIED.

It is further ORDER of this Court that the following discovery is to be turned over to Plaintiff within three (3) days:

1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long version) Birth Certificate; and

2. A certified copy of Obama's Certification of Citizenship;

3. A Certified copy of Obama's Oath of Allegiance.
IT IS SO ORDERED

Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, may actually be an illegal alien!

"Defendant Obama claims he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961 and it is uncertain in which hospital he claims to have been born. Obama's grandmother on his father's side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. Reports reflect that Obama's mother traveled to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy (which, apparently, was a normal restriction, to avoid births during a flight). By these reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home and registered Obama's birth. There are records of a "registry of birth" for Obama, on or about August 8, 1961 in the public records office in Hawaii."

http://www.heraldextra.com/component/option,com_fireboard/Itemid,3/func,view/catid,2/id,397926/

[darrels joy]

Phil Berg is my guest today on No Compromise Radio

October 13, 2008 · 16 Comments

UPDATE: I scheduled a show with Attorney Phil Berg who has filed a lawsuit against Barack Obama for not being a US Citizen therefore he is an illegal alien.
My show was terminated at the beginning of the show. Why? The BTR assistant Director of Customer Relations, Shannon Dingee-Kramer stated that my show was, “racially or ethnically offensive, defamatory, unreasonably violent, threatening, intimidating or harassing; 2. contains falsehoods or misrepresentations that could damage BlogTalkRadio or any other person; (BTR red emphasis–not mine!)
In other words, those who claim to be for free speech are afraid of it when they see it, or hear it in this case! It might offend someone and that’s far more important to protect than the American Principle of exercising the flow of speech in the arena of public ideas.

So I am officially off the air until further notice thanks to the Obamunists and Islamists who support him!


I want to thank all of you for your faithfulness to my growing show.

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Monday at 2:00 PDT, October 13th–Click here to listen
THE CALL IN NUMBER IS 646.200.4641

Today, my guest is Phil Berg, Philadelphia lawyer has filed a federal lawsuit against Barack Obama alleging that Obama is not a natural born Citizen of the US, a requirement clearly spelled out in the US Constitution,

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States. ~Article I, Section I.

You can review the filings here at Obama Crimes

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16 responses so far ↓

• Paula // October 13, 2008 at 10:23 pm
  Blogtalk is not allowing Nocompromise to open. They say, User Page Does Not Exist
  We could not find that user in our system. Try searching for show or user name or by keyword on the search page.
  
• No Compromises// October 13, 2008 at 11:27 pm
  Hi Paula,
  Thank you for your support.
  As you can see they terminated my acct and took all of my past shows with them. If you have an inkling I would appreciate it if all people who care about free speech whether you agree with me or my contact or not to contact BTR and demand that my show be put back on the air!
  It’s free speech we must protect. The PRINCIPLE must be protected whether we like the speech or not! Their rules are arbitrary and because they are a private company they can decide what shows they like or don’t like.
  Since my show was new and didn’t have the large following other shows that cover the same content had then I am sure they felt it okay to attack mine!
  Good Gawd, man! What are they so afraid of?
  
• alwaysonwatch// October 13, 2008 at 11:38 pm
  I’ve posted on this and linked back to you.
  I can’t tell you how sick I feel right now. What’s happening to America???
  
• ontologist// October 13, 2008 at 11:53 pm
  So we are not allowed to scrutinize or question the great Obama Messiah, otherwise, we will be labeled racists. They must be so cravenly afraid of the Obama attorneys suing them that they would rather violate the principle of free speech. Political censorship by means of the threat of lawsuits from Obama’s attorneys! Truly, many of the attorneys and judges in the U.S. legal cartel are the greatest threat to our God-given liberties! How are we to stand against these professional legal terrorists?
  
• Mirjam// October 14, 2008 at 12:02 am
  I was listening today when Mr. Berg began to talk about his efforts to obtain a copy of Obama’s birth certificate. That was the only issue on Mr. Berg’s mind. He only wants to see it and then he will go away. How this could possibly be as BTR claims ““racially or ethnically offensive, defamatory, unreasonably violent, threatening, intimidating or harassing; 2. contains falsehoods or misrepresentations that could damage BlogTalkRadio or any other person;” is a COMPLETE AND UTTER LIE, told by incompetent fools and dupes, who obviously did not listen to the show and it’s guest. These idiots must have caved in to the whinning and LIES of the Obamabots who are working feverishly to surpress the truth of Obama’s birth. There can be no other conceiveable reason since the reasons give to No Compromise are utterly false and with basis in reality.
  You had better wake up America, because if the progressives and Obamabots get their way you will not recognize the country.
  This is a truely disgusting and dispicable example of liberalism gone mad!
  
• Mike W // October 14, 2008 at 12:06 am
  I tried to hang in your chat for as long as I could but BTR kicked me out and stole my tent!!! Oh yes I am writing to BTR this is a load on horse hockey and needs to be stopped before every right wing BTR show falls victim.. I have been alerting other BTR hosts as to your situation, Hopefully that will help.
  
• VinceP1974// October 14, 2008 at 12:31 am
  I notified PUMA’s at
  http://noquarterusa.net/blog
  
• No Compromises// October 14, 2008 at 12:37 am
  Thank you Vince! This simply can no longer be tolerated in this country! The very country whose Citizens claim they are pro-freedom!
  I have said this many times and I will say it again: The First Amdt is not there to protect speech we like! It’s there to protect speech we do not like! I just wish more people could grasp onto that concept!
  
• alwaysonwatch// October 14, 2008 at 12:51 am
  Vince is here? Hey, my friend. What circumstances to cross paths, though.
  
• Snooper// October 14, 2008 at 12:56 am
  Contact me ASAP please. I am also a BTR host and have been for two years. You are MORE than welcome to conduct the interview on my show.
  I am on the Heading Right Channel with Lizzy.
  http://tiny.cc/w0rTz
  
• Snooper// October 14, 2008 at 12:56 am
  PS I am on 5 days a week at 1300 Texas time. I can conjure up an afternoon show if need be.
  
• No Compromises// October 14, 2008 at 1:03 am
  Hi Snooper,
  I tried emailing you, but now my email is going down. Thank you for your generous offer. I am concerned about you getting terminated as well. What do you think? I would love to take you up on your offer. Is 1300 Texas Time 1 pm in Civilian terms? Again, thank you very much!
  
• the merry widow// October 14, 2008 at 1:29 am
  NC-There are a number of us that AOW has notified. I posted on this abomination on the Constitution, with a link back to you.
  AOW said at the beginning of the year that, 2008- The Year Of Silencing The Voices.
  This is not the America that my family has been a part of for almost 400 yrs.!
  Wonder if the real puppet master isn’t george soros?
  tmw
  
• The Lizard// October 14, 2008 at 1:30 am
  No Compromises,
  Please work this out with Snooper. A word of advice keep it in email and work in stealth mode. The Obamabots are lurking and will do anything to shut down dissent. Look at the blogs they shut down this summer. There is no doubt they are hiding something. I remained quiet on this issue until it became apparant that Obama was tryin to run out the clock. He would rather have a constitutional crisis than to come clean.
  
• No Compromises// October 14, 2008 at 1:53 am
  Hi Merry Widow and Lizard, I tried posting a comment three time on your blog to no avail. Here is what I wanted to say: I won’t be sleeping tonight either! I am grieving for the loss of honesty, free speech and my country. I am grieving because I have children who will have it way worse than you and I!
  It’s scary, sad, and aggravating all at the same time!
  Lizard: You are right on the money and it makes me sick that we have to treat our communication like that, but I agree. Thank you!
  
• VinceP1974// October 14, 2008 at 2:03 am
  Hi AOW
  How are you? I got the email from Patricia and have been trying to distrubute this horrible news to as many different areas of internet life that I can.
  I was just on Andrea Shea King’s show and I read from this very page what happened.
  

[darrels joy]

Obama's birth stirs legal action in Washington

Posted at 4:48 pm by Jerry Cornfield

Was Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama really born in this country?

His critics and his foes have spent a good deal of time raising doubt and spreading rumors that he’s not.

Today, Steve Marquis of Fall City filed a lawsuit in King County Superior Court directing Secretary of State Sam Reed to get the proof – or remove Obama’s name from ballots.

Here is his press release.

He argues in a 30-page document:

“To avert likely civil unrest and a constitutional crisis…this complaint seeks to resolve such complaints prior to the election.
It was incumbent on the candidates to present such documentation, but to date Mr. Obama has failed to do so.

Obama sought to put down this pesty rumor when he posted a picture of his birth certificate online here.

The respected FactCheck.org run by the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania examined the document and concluded here that there’s no doubt he was born in Hawaii in 1961.

Reed forwarded the matter to the Attorney General’s Office. Ballots are still slated to be mailed this week.

Who is Marquis?

In his words, from his Web site.

I have a passion for God, Family, Boy Scouts, Politics, Science Outdoors and Horses. My allies say they're glad I'm on their side and I've been told I enjoy debating, but what I really enjoy is coming to a unity of faith based on truth.
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/200...OG13/810149964

[darrels joy]

Shocking development: Mrs Obama decides enough is enough: “My husband was born in Hawaii and adopted by his step father, does that make him unpatriotic; she asks”, on a direct telephone to API.

Posted by africanpress on October 15, 2008

Accusing API of colluding with American internet bloggers in an effort to bring down her husband, Mrs Obama said she decided to call API because of what she termed, API’s help to spread rumours created by American bloggers and other racist media outlets in their efforts to damage a black man’s name, saying she hopes African Media was mature enough to be in the front to give unwavering support to her husband, a man Africans should identify themselves with.

When API told her that our online news media was only relaying what the American Bloggers and other media outlets had discovered through their investigations, Mrs Obama was angered and she came out loud with the following: “African press International is supposed to support Africans and African-American view,” and she went to state that, “it is strange that API has chosen to support the racists against my husband. There is no shame in being adopted by a step father. All dirt has been thrown onto my husband’s face and yet he loves this country. My husband and I know that there is no law that will stop him from becoming the president, just because some American white racists are bringing up the issue of my husband’s adoption by His step father. The important thing here is where my husband’s heart is at the moment. I can tell the American people that My husband loves this country and his adoption never changed his love for this country. He was born in Hawaii, yes, and that gives him all the right to be an American citizen even though he was adopted by a foreigner; says Michelle Obama on telefon to API.”

This is a very interesting turn of events. The American man Dr Corsi was recently reported to have been arrested in Kenya because there was fear that he might reveal information on Obama when he wanted to hold a press conference in Nairobi.

The question now is why he was arrested and who ordered his arrest. Was Obama’s hand in this in any way? We will never know the truth but what is clear is that Dr Corsi was seen as a threat while in Kenya.

When API asked Mrs Obama to comment on why Dr Corsi was arrested by the Kenyan government and whether she thought Kenya’s Prime Minister Mr Raila Odinga was involved in Dr Corsi’s arrest, she got irritated and and simply told API not to dig that which will support evil people who are out to stop her husband from getting the presidency.

When asked who she was referring to as the evil people, she stated that she was not going to elaborate much on that but that many conservative white people and even some African Americans were against her husband, but that this group of blacks were simply doing so because of envy.

On Farakhan and his ministry, Mrs Obama told API that it was unfortunate that Mr Farakhan came out the way he did supporting her husband openly before the elections was over. That was not wholehearted support but one that was calculated to convince the American people that my husband will support the growth of muslim faith if he became the president, adding “even if my husband was able to prove that he is not a Muslim, he will not be believed by those who have come out strongly to destroy his chances of being the next President. Do real people expect someone to deny a religion when 80 percent of his relatives are Muslims?; Mrs Obama asked.

Mrs Obama asked API to write a good story about her husband and that will earn API an invitation to the innoguration ceremony when, as she put it , her husband will be installed as the next President of the United States of America next year.
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/20...ephone-to-api/

[darrels joy]

African Press International:
Says they Have Audio Tape of Michelle Obama Conversation

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UPDATES to follow at end of story.
UPDATE #1 - 1745 Jerome Corsi, Jeff Schreiber Exchange
UPDATE #2 - 1755 African Press International Updates Story– and More!
UPDATE #3 - 1810 More from African Press International
UPDATE #4 - 1835 MSM “Ethics”

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Concerning African Press International’s report today [Shocking Development] that they talked to Michelle Obama and she unloaded on “White Racists” who oppose her husband for president.
DBKP’s original report: Michelle Obama Calls African News Organization Over Obama Birth Certificate Reporting - UPDATED
From Maggie’s Notebook, “Michelle Obama and African Press Update“:

Many of you are familiar with Jeff Schreiber’s site, America’s Right. Jeff has closely followed Philip Berg’s lawsuit challenging Barack Obama’s citizenship.
It appears that Jeff has been corresponding with Jerome Corsi, a WorldNetDaily Senior Staff Reporter, and author of The Obama Nation. You may recall that Dr. Corsi was recently arrested and held in Kenya while investigating Barack Obama’s relationship with Kenya’s Prime Minister, Raila Odinga. That, of course, is another story.
Here’s the update. Corsi has been in touch with African Press International (API) regarding the validity of an article API posted online quoting Michelle Obama. Depending on your point-of-view, the alleged quotes by Michelle Obama were not the kind of rhetoric you would expect from a soon-to-be-maybe, First Lady.

Email No. 1
From: African Press International (API)
Subject: Re: J.Corsi on Michelle Obama story
To: [Address Blocked]
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 11:53 AM
I want to thank you for your email.
API hereby confirms to you that the story is true and if the huge interest on this particular story continues, we will post the recording on our website in the next immediate days.
When we published the story we did not intend to cause any chaos but we are shocked by the huge interest the story is receiving from the Americans and the American Media.
Mrs Obama called us just to ask API to stop joining the mainstream hate online media that is trying to destroy her husband’s opportunity to get the presidency.
Our editorial will sit today and agree on how to release the information that will verify the story.
Very many media outlets are asking us to email them the recording but we think the best way to satisfy all at once is by publishing it on our website and people can retrieve it themselves.
We understand the urgency this may have but it is important for us that we do it right so that we do not land into problems with Obama’s just like you did while in Kenyan recently.
Yours Sincerely,
Chief Editor Korikr
Email No. 2
From: African Press International (API)
Subject: Re: J.Corsi on Michelle Obama story
To: [Address Blocked]
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 12:57 PM
To Jerome Corsi,
We do not want to be misunderstood. We are not out to stop Obama from capturing the presidency.
We are not here to prove to people the story, but we will give proper verification so that people will understand that the story is true.
Soon, when we come with more information on the site, those who doubt the story will be surprised why Mrs Obama would choose to talk to us and not other media outlets.
We will bring out information on how she was connected to us, how she was convinced her story was safe with us and why she trusted API. And who introduced her to those who contacted API first before she personally took contact in an effort to ensure that API does not publish things on her husband that may be seen to be harmfull.
If we start dishing out audio to media outlets, we will be misunderstood. We do not want people to think that we published the story in order to spoil Obama’s chances to become the president.
Those who are contacting you demanding that the story should be verified now, should be directed by your media to check our website in the next day or two. All the information will be made available, but we must do it carefully.
Regards,
Chief Editor Korir
API

UPDATES to follow

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ALSO at DBKP:
* * Michelle Obama Calls African News Organization Over Obama Birth Certificate Reporting
* Obama College, Medical, Birth Records: Who is Barack Obama?
* Obama Birth Certificate Federal Lawsuit: Video Released On YouTube
* Obama Birth Certificate Federal Lawsuit: Updates, News and Reactions
* Obama Birth Certificate Federal Lawsuit: The Curious Behavior of the Obama Campaign
* Obama, Bill Ayers, and FactCheck.Org: All Have Ties To Annenberg Foundation

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Our attempts to reach API by phone have not been successful, but their website indicates that the Editor will be available from October 16-18 to answer questions on this story.
UPDATES

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UPDATE #1 1745 EDT
Jeff Schreiber, America’s Right, who has been trying to decide if the API article passes the sniff test. Schreiber has the entire correspondence between API and Jerome Corsi.
At 1:30 pm today:

The source I could not name earlier is in fact Jerome Corsi, author of the bestselling book, The Obama Nation. Corsi, of course, was the journalist detained in and deported from Kenya just a short week ago, shortly before he was to conduct a press conference further detailing among other things the relationship between Barack Obama and Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga.
Since hearing about the article released yesterday by African Press International, Corsi has been attempting to gain access to or even further information about materials which could verify the authenticity of the statements purported to come from Michelle Obama and subsequently denied by the Obama campaign.
“Given the e-mails I’m getting from the chief editor, he’s defending himself and I’m challenging him to produce the recording he says that he has,” Corsi said. “I don’t see any motive for him to lie. Still, I’m not accepting it as authentic without further investigation.”
Corsi went on to say that, “given the way he is defending it,” the report seems to be initially credible, and that “right now, my journalistic instincts say ‘okay, you’ve got my attention, and if you’re prepared to say it’s reliable, then prove it.’”

Schreiber, who’s been doing yeoman’s duty covering the Berg v. Obama federal lawsuit, is a great impartial source for all of this.
In his 5 pm update, both he and Corsi are raising additional questions about the API report. Basically, it boils down to: if the editor does have an audio tape (or phone logs), then the story is BIG. Absent that, it’s just another story on the Internet.

Corsi also agrees that, sans audiotape, the story is not credible, stating that as far as he is concerned, until an audiotape or similar evidence is produced verifying the statements as Michelle Obama’s, the story is just a story.
“They write that they don’t want to release the tape for fear they will influence the election doesn’t add up,” Corsi said. “If that is the case, why’d they write the story in the first place?”

Read the whole exchange with the emails at America’s Right.
UPDATE #2 -1755 EDT
API has a new update on the story and African Press International seems a bit stunned that A) the story caused so much commotion and B) that the Obama campaign is denying that the conversation took place.

The Obama saga and the Presidency

We appreciate that you have send to us the information below to alert us on what is happening there in the US.
I would like to let you know that I have just send in a comment to the ABC News ’s Jake Tapper story and I hope he publishes my comments.
Soon, we will expose everything - information that we have, and that will make those who doubt us to retract their sentiments. The recordings will be released if need be in the long run. We did not imagine that there would be a huge interest in the story. Today we have received over 10000 emails and they are still coming. The comments are many and will be published. We will not mislead readers in any way. API spoke to Mrs Obama and the reasons she choose us will soon be made public in necessary.
The story is true.
By Chief Editor Korir
African press International - API

UPDATE #3 - 1810 EDT
More from African Press International:
* The Michelle Obama story sparks outcry in the US - The Americans demand that API makes public the Audio recording

The reaction to the following story Shocking development: Mrs Obama decides enough is enough: “My husband was born in Hawaii and adopted by his step father, does that make him unpatriotic; she asks”, on a direct telephone to API., necessitates that we inform our readers on the following:
1. API had a telephone call from Mrs Obama after consultations with Nairobi. We will avail all the details and what transpired so that all interested parties may understand that the story is not fake.
2. API has no interest in the outcome of the US elections and we do not partner with any group in the promotion of any candidate for the presidency.
3. Our recordings will be released when we are satisfied it is not intended to be misused in any way or for any gains by an group.
Today, API received thousands of emails and replied to some from different people who wanted to know more about the story and others who wanted to get the audio recording emailed. However, we were shocked to learn that the emails replied by us were published on different blogs - made public. Our replies to the emails were not intended for publication.
Although we are not hiding anything, we would like to release all the information in the right way in order to avoid misunderstandings that may put us into problems with the Obama’s. We do not want to land into legal disputes with anyone.
The Obama campaign spokesperson(s) should not be quick to dismis the story as false. They should wait until they get all the facts on the table before making any conclussions. They should not think they control all calls Mrs Obama makes.
The timing of the interview should not be faulted on us. It was Mrs Obama who contacted us after someone took the initiative from Nairobi to connect API and her.
API requests all readers to be patient. They will get all the facts very soon, now that we have realised the importance of the story to them.
By Chief Editor Korir

* The Obama saga continues…. email exchanges between API and Dr Corsi was not meant for publishing
“Thank you for the information on what is going on. We appreciate. API will not be pressurised to email the recordings to individual media outlets. API was not aware that the receptients of our emails were actually forwarding them to other media outlets. We understand that the purpose of doing so is to pressure [...]”
UPDATE #4 - 1836 EDT
First, DBKP does not know if the phone call in question took place. African Press International is saying it did and that it has the audio to prove it. The Obama camp is saying “100% bogus”.
However, many stories reported in the media are reported and details are confirmed or debunked as they emerge. In the Mainstream Media, depending on party affiliation, the qualifying details meet very flexible standards.
In the John Edwards Scandal, Edwards himself had to “confess” on national TV before the MSM would inform readers that the Democrat presidential and then VP candidate had an affair and a likely love child by Rielle Hunter and was was engaged in an elaborate cover-up.
In John McCain’s case, all it took for the New York Times to run a page one “expose” about a supposed eight-year-old affair was a few unnamed sources and another source who said the Times twisted the meaning of his words.
See? Flexible standards.
JammieWearingFool is skeptical, as is Little Green Footballs.
JWF says, “I’ll be happy to update if there’s audio. If there is and it’s authentic, the Obamas are going to be in a world of hurt. I just find it hard to believe someone would be so reckless as to dial up a website nobody has ever heard of to go on some tirade like this.”
We’re skeptical, but cautiously so.
We were initially skeptical of the John Edwards story as gossip. When the National Enquirer published more hard info in December, it was a different animal for us–if not for the MSM.
The same was true for the Larry Sinclair story with opposite results: the more that was known, the more that we were able to prove Mr. Sinclair was a fraud without any supporting evidence.
Our philosophy is that readers should be told what is known and they can make up their own minds: some will agree with us, some will not. We are proud we do not adhere to so-called MSM “ethics”. These “ethics” have proved to be so flexible as to be non-existent. Anyone following Election 2008 will be able to see the MSM’s “ethics” in coverage in action.
It’s wise for the Obama campaign to deny this story, whether it is true or not. Likely, they will continue to deny it–even if an audio tape surfaces.
While wise for the Obama camp to deny this story, MSM outlets are also doing the same–without checking the story out first. We think they are skeptical when unpleasant information is known about Barack Obama.
Readers of the New York Times’ or the AP’s apologia for Obama’s relationship with Bill Ayers can see that the Times and the AP are only skeptical of unfortunate or unpleasant news about Barack Obama.
If there is no audio tape or phone log, we will report it.
If there is, we will report it.
Until then, readers have all of the information DBKP has. They can arrive at their own judgments.
According to Journalism 101, that’s the way news is supposed to work.
UPDATE #5 - working

by Mondo
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2008...-conversation/

[darrels joy]

School Events Assisi Primary The "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" blog reports that Obama's Indonesian schooling began when he was entered into the Roman Catholic, Franciscus Assisi Primary School, in Jakarta, Indonesia, on January 1, 1968 and sat in class 1B. He was registered under the name of Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. The school registration document identifies Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was identified as Islam. This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy's religion as Islam. If you save document, then open it in any graphics program, you can zoom it. The Obama Campaign claims that the "Muslim" entry references the religion of the father, which is absurd. Every other entry on the document relates to Obama. The attributes on the document describe Obama, the child, not Lolo, the stepfather. Born on August 4, 1961, Obama would have been 7 years and 5 months old. That's late to start school. Obama will always be 2 years older than his classmates. I have found no information about previous schooling. Obama may have started Kindergarten in Hawaii but was whisked off to Indonesia as a result of his mother's second marriage. There are 5 missing years in Anna's CV between Obama Sr. abandoning the family and her emigration to Indonesia with Lolo. Obama will complete the first 3 grades at Assisi. Besuki Primary Obama then entered the Besuki Primary School, a state school. He was enrolled as Barry Soetoro, Muslim. He would attend Besuki for two years. Iis Darmawan, 63, Obama's teacher, remembers him as an exceptionally tall and curly haired child who quickly picked up the local language and had sharp math skills. "He wrote an essay titled, 'I Want To Become President,'" the teacher said. His third grade teacher, Fermina Katarina Sinaga, now 67, asked her class to write an essay titled "My dream: What I want to be in the future." Obama wrote "I want to be a President," she said. Quranic Studies All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school. He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam. In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school." "In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies." According to Tine Hahiyary, one of Obama's teachers and the principal from 1971 through 1989, Barry actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his time at the school. His teacher was named Maimunah and she lived in the Puncak area, the Cianjur Regency. "I remembered that he had studied "mengaji" (recitation of the Quran)" Tine said. Our guy in Jakarta writes: "The actual usage of the word 'mengaji' in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. "Mengagi" is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, 'mengaji classes' are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes." "The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known in Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama is going to come out of the closet." As Plato said, the images and stories we feed our children affect them for life. "As I've stated before, the evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such." Obama's half-sister, Maya, recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events," and "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." On January 24, 2007, the Obama campaign released the following statement, "To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago. Then, on March 14th, 2007, the Obama Campaign told the LA Times he wasn’t a "practicing Muslim." But his official website says: "Obama Has Never Been A Muslim, And Is a Committed Christian" (dated: 11/12/2007, and still up as of 5/5/2008) This is the basic problem with Obama -- his dissimulation -- some would call it outright lying -- but read what his classmates say: Mates In 2007, classmate Rony Amiris described young Barry as enjoying football and playing marbles and of being a very devout Muslim. Amir said, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam." "We previously often asked him to the prayer room close to the house. If he was wearing a sarong he looked funny," said Rony. Amiris now the manager of the Bank Mandiri, Jakarta, recently said, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam. His birth father, Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim economist from Kenya. Before marrying Ann Dunham, Hussein Obama was married to a woman from Kenya who had seven children. All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims" Rony extrapolates further, that Obama at one point had to change his religion if he ever intended later to run for the office of President of the United States because America would never elect a Muslim to the be President of the United States. Also in 2007, Emirsyah Satar, CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, "He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a 'sarong', at that time." "He was quite religious in Islam but only after marrying Michelle, he changed his religion." Divorce When the Soetoros divorced, Anna took Obama to live with her parents, the Dunhams, in Honolulu. Anna and Obama's half-sister, Maya, returned to Indonesia. In 1972, the Dunhams enrolled "Barry Obama" in the prestigious Punahou School, starting in the fifth grade. He attended Punahou on a scholarship, and walked the five blocks from his grandmother's apartment on Beretania to the school. With more than 3,000 students, Punahou is the largest private school in the country, and it sits on a lush, sprawling campus in Honolulu. The school is elite and wealthy. He made friends quickly and told his classmates that his father was an African prince, the leader of a proud and successful people. Punahou Obama's classmate and friend, Keith "Ray" Kakugawa, said, "Barry's biggest struggles then were missing his parents. His biggest struggles were his feelings of abandonment. Obama would write, "I didn't feel [her absence] as a deprivation, but when I think about the fact that I was separated from her, I suspect it had more of an impact than I know." While at Punahou School, Obama turns into a disenchanted teenage rebel, experimenting with cocaine and marijuana. Obama admits in "Dreams" that during high school he frequently smoked marijuana, drank alcohol, even used cocaine occasionally. In his book, Obama recalls that he had "been headed" to the status of "junkie" or "pothead", which he describes as "the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man". He recalls smoking "reefer" in the backs of his friends' vans, dorm rooms and "on the beach with a couple of Hawaiian kids who had dropped out of school." Obama, told a group of students in New Hampshire that his drug use had caused him to "waste a lot of time" during his high school years. Bryon Leong, a former classmate, remembers, "He was known as a partier, as a guy looking for a good time, but not much more," Mr Leong said. "There was pot in Hawaii in the 1970s, but it wasn't a big deal." "It wasn't like guys were smoking dope on campus and coming to school high," said Eric Kusunoki, 57, Obama's teacher from age 15 to 18. "If they did, it would have been pretty obvious. If he did dabble with drugs or alcohol, I didn't see it." Other schoolmates also remember his time at school rather differently. He was a spoiled high-achiever, they recall. One of his former classmates, Alan Lum, said: "Hawaii is such a melting pot that it didn't occur to me when we were growing up that he might have problems about being one of the few African-Americans at the school. Us kids didn't see color. He was easy-going and well-liked." "He was a basketball player and always had a ball in his hand wherever he was," Wysard recalled. At school, Obama was surrounded by the island's richest and most accomplished students. America Online founder Steve Case, actress Kelly Preston and former Dallas Cowboys lineman Mark Tuinei, who died in 1999, attended the school around that time. Pro golf sensation Michelle Wie, 17, is a student there now (2006). While a student in the late 1970s, Barack Obama carved his name in the pavement outside the cafeteria of Punahou School. Kinda interesting, eh, King Obama? In his 1979 yearbook pictures, the B-minus student wears a 1970s-style wide-collared shirt and sports jacket, his hair in a neatly trimmed afro that covers the tops of his ears. He added a photo of himself playing basketball, and a shot entitled "Still Life" that includes numerous items. Among them are a trophy, telephone, turntable and beer bottle. (Click here to see larger photo) A package of "Zig-Zag" rolling papers and a matchbook are prominently displayed in front, and in a brief caption he thanked the "Choom Gang" and others "for all the good times." The "Choom Gang" is a reference to "chooming," the Hawaiian slang for smoking marijuana. Registers For Draft Pajamas Media obtained official confirmation from the Selective Service System via email that Barack Obama did indeed register for the Selective Service as required by law. Barack Hussein Obama registered at a post office in Hawaii. The effective registration date was September 4, 1980. His registration number is 61-1125539-1. Daniel Amon Public Affairs Specialist Occidental Obama writes in "Dreams," that he saw his mentor, the communist Frank Marshall Davis, only a few days before he left for Occidental College, and that Davis seemed as radical as ever. Davis called college, "An advanced degree in compromise" and warned Obama not to forget his "people" and not to "start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that shit." With those words ringing in his head, Obama entered Occidental College in California in 1979, where his freshman roommate was Imad Husain, a Pakistani, who's now a Boston banker. Also, as a freshman, he quickly became friends with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, two wealthy Pakistanis. Obama had an international circle of friends -- "a real eclectic sort of group," says Vinai Thummalapally, who himself came from Hyderabad, India, and who lived with Obama the summer of 1980. In his first memoir, "Dreams," Obama included a description of black student life at Occidental College in Los Angeles. "There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs," he wrote. "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names." He added: "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists." Obama said he and other blacks were careful not to second-guess their own racial identity in front of whites. "To admit our doubt and confusion to whites, to open up our psyches to general examination by those who had caused so much of the damage in the first place, seemed ludicrous, itself an expression of self-hatred," he wrote. Obama joined the Students for Economic Democracy (SED), a radical socialist "cousin" organization to Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), of which the Weather Underground was an off-shoot. As a matter of fact, Obama's first public speech was at an event sponsored by the Students for Economic Democracy. This fringe group was chaired by the radical Tom Hayden in the late 70's and early '80's. You are know by your friends and associates -- and Obama's are the hard-core leftists. Road Trip At a fundraiser in San Francisco on April 7th 2008, Barack Obama waxed eloquently on the need of foreign policy experience to be Commander in Chief, saying: "You do that in eighty countries -- you don't know those eighty countries. So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa -- knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people..." ... and out of the blue, came this statement: "I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. . . ." In 1981, after visiting his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia, Obama went to Pakistan for about three weeks, In 1981, as a student, Obama visited Larkana for a partridge hunting session. He traveled with Wahid Hamid and staying in Karachi with Mohammed Hasan Chandio's [sic] family in Karachi and visiting Hyderabad as well. Obama also made friends with Chairman of Senate, Muhammadmian Soomro, who said that in Pakistan he [Obama] came to know about Sunni and Shia sects. According to the report of Larry Rohter of April 10, 2008, in The New York Times, the Obama campaign staff, when questioned about the revelation of Obama's 1981 trip to Karachi, stated: "Mr. Obama visited Pakistan in 1981, on the way back from Indonesia, where his mother and half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, were living. He spent 'about three weeks' there, Mr. Obama’s press secretary, Bill Burton, said, staying in Karachi with the family of a college friend, Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, but also traveling to Hyderabad, in India." That information is significant for two reasons. First and foremost is the fact that Mohammed Hasan Chandoo is a radical Muslim who with his relatives operate a website that is anti-Semitic and anti-American and supports radical Islamic politics. Go to chandoo.com , the home page of the Chandoo brothers, with a links to the Chandoo brothers favorite sites. Not only are the sites anti-American and anti-Semitic, they are anti-women, with several vulgar references to the distasteful Shia Muslim practice of "muttah," a short term marriage whereby poor Pakistani and Indian Muslims often "pimp" their own daughters to Middle-East tourists for a few rupees. I wonder which face Obama wore to Pakistan -- his Christian face? -- or his Muslim face? Update: Hamid nor Chandoo have each contributed the maximum $2,300 to Obama's campaign, and records indicate each has joined an Asian-American council that supports his run for president. Both also are listed on Obama's campaign Web site as being among his top fundraisers, each bringing in between $100,000 and $200,000 in contributions from their networks of friends. Both also attended Obama's wedding in 1992, according to published reports and other friends. Columbia In 1981, in search of a community to belong to, he transfers to that prestigious university on the edge of Harlem -- Columbia, where he majors in political science with a specialization in international relations. He also swapped drugs for Marxism. Obama says he was somewhat involved with the Black Students Organization and participated in anti-apartheid activities. "Mostly, my years at Columbia were an intense period of study," he says. "When I transferred, I decided to buckle down and get serious. I spent a lot of time in the library. I didn’t socialize that much. I was like a monk." Obama says it is difficult to separate his college experience at Columbia from the urban experience of living in New York City, and his memoir offers little about his time on campus When Obama arrived in New York, he already knew Sohale "Hal" Siddiqi, a drug addicted illegal alien from Pakistan, who was a friend of Chandoo's and Hamid's from Karachi, who had visited them at Occidental College. He had come to New York from London two years earlier and found his caustic wit and unabashed desire to make money perfectly pitched to the city’s mood. He had overstayed his tourist visa and now made a living in New York’s high-turnover, illegal immigrant workforce, waiting on tables. In 1982, Siddiqi and Obama got an apartment at a sixth-floor walk-up on East 94th Street. In "The Book," Siddiqi is identified only as "Sadik" -- a short, well-built Pakistani" who smoked marijuana, snorted cocaine and liked to party. There's a chapter in Obama's book that features this guy and Obama conversing -- every other word is "whitey" -- whitey this and whitey that -- damned whitey. The were roomies for a while. Siddiqi confirmed Obama's account that he turned serious in New York and "stopped getting high." Watching Sadik's drugging obviously got Obama's attention. "I stopped getting high. I ran 3 miles a day and fasted on Sundays. For the first time in years I applied myself to my studies and started keeping a journal of daily reflections and very bad poetry," he wrote in "Dreams." He went to the Marxist-Socialist conferences at Cooper Union and African cultural fairs in Brooklyn and started lecturing his relatives until they worried he'd become "one of those freaks you see on the streets around here." The Obama campaign declined to discuss Obama's time at Columbia and his friendships in general. It won't, for example, release his transcript or name his friends. It did, however, list five locations where Obama lived during his four years here: three on Manhattan's Upper West Side and two in Brooklyn -- one in Park Slope, the other in Brooklyn Heights. His memoir mentions two others on Manhattan's Upper East Side. The Thesis The latest report on Obama's missing thesis comes from MSNBC. Written his senior year at Columbia University, Obama's thesis was about Soviet nuclear disarmament. It's only natural to wonder what the budding socialist turned presidential candidate thought of nuclear proliferation in the early 1980s. "We do not have a copy of the course paper you requested and neither does Columbia University," Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt told NBC News. The Obama campaign has been less than forthcoming with details. "Spokesman Ben LaBolt wouldn’t even say whether Sen. Obama threw out his copy or lost it." At an earlier date, an aide actually told the New Republic the junior senator couldn't recall what he had written about, but as that editor notes, "who doesn't remember their senior thesis?" To get the inside scoop, MSNBC contacted the former professor who taught Obama's senior seminar and who recalls the content of the paper better than Obama himself. What MSNBC doesn't report is that Baron, or at least a Michael Baron who also happens to run an electronics company in Florida, has given $1,250 to Obama. Maybe if the Obama campaign would release the thesis and Obama's college transcript like a normal presidential campaign, we could all decide for ourselves whether Obama deserves an A. Obama Meets Ayers? Obama and the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers were at college -- within a quarter mile of each other -- for two years in 1982 and 1983. When Obama was at Columbia, Ayers was at Bank Street College (BSC), where he received an M.A. in Early Childhood Education -- 371 yards down the street. BSC has no student housing, everyone lives off Campus. Columbia DOES have housing and encourages students to live on campus. However, Fox News interviewed 400 former students from his graduating class and no-one remembers him! Presumably Obama lived off campus also. Obama and Ayers had mutual friends. One was Edward Said, the left-wing Columbia superstar was just recently out of hiding. It is inconceivable, given their concentric politics, that they did not know each other. Obama won't release his transcripts (actually he won't reveal any documentation from his past). Was it because it would reveal his ties to Ayers, a class in common (BSC has collaborations with Columbia), or maybe a common street address? Who? Obama graduated from Columbia College in 1983, and after spending a year in New York, moved to Chicago. Wayne Allyn Root says, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knows him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia. Ever! ... Nobody recalls him. I'm not exaggerating, I'm not kidding. Questioner: Were you the exact same class? Root: Class of '83 political science, pre-law Columbia University. You don't get more exact than that. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, 20th reunion, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! Who was he, and five years ago, nobody even knew who he was... the guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, the macha who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him. Is that not strange? It's very strange... When asked about his undergraduate training at Columbia University, The New Times states that Obama "declined repeated requests to talk about his New York years, release his Columbia transcript or identify even a single fellow student, co-worker, roommate or friend from those years." Many of his classmates don't remember Obama. He's not in the yearbook. Columbia couldn't find a picture of him at school. What can be said with some certainty is that Mr. Obama lived off campus while at Columbia in 1981-83 and made few friends. Fox News contacted some 400 of his classmates and found no one who remembered him. He had transferred from Occidental College in California after his sophomore year because, he told the Boston Globe in 1990, "I was concerned with urban issues and I wanted to be around more black folks in big cities." Harvard Law Even though Obama’s Columbia grades fall below the Harvard norm, likely even below the affirmative action-adjusted black norm at Harvard, Obama began Harvard Law School in 1988. Friends say he did not want anyone to assume they knew his mind and because of that, even those close to him did not always know exactly where he stood. "He then and now is very hard to pin down," said Kenneth Mack, a classmate and now a professor at the law school, referring to the senator’s on-the-one-hand, on-the-other-hand style. Mack added, "Obama stood out from the beginning. He seemed more mature. Everyone understood he was a liberal. He didn't hide that." Harvard Law Benefactor How exactly did Barack Obama pay for his Harvard Law School education? The way the Obama campaign has answered the question was simply hard work and student loans, even though Obama’s financial disclosures found no trace of any outstanding college loans, going back to 2000. Michelle Obama contradicted this claim by saying that the couple had "only just" paid off their student loans after receiving book royalties paid out in 2005 and 2006. But new questions have been raised about Obama’s student loans and Obama’s ties to a radical Muslim activist who reportedly was raising money for Obama’s Harvard studies during the years 1988 to 1991. The allegations first surfaced in late March, when former Manhattan Borough president Percy Sutton told a New York cable channel that a former business partner who was "raising money" for Obama had approached him in 1988 to help Obama get into Harvard Law School. In this video interview, Sutton says he first heard of Obama about twenty years ago from Khalid Al-Mansour, who Sutton described as advisor to "one of the world’s richest men," Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal. Prince Alwaleed catapulted to fame in the United States after the September 11 attacks, when New York mayor Rudy Guiliani refused his $10 million check to help rebuild Manhattan, because the Saudi prince hinted publicly that America’s pro-Israel policies were to blame for the attacks. Sutton knew Al-Mansour well, since the two men had been business partners and served on several corporate boards together. As Sutton remembered, Al-Mansour was raising money for Obama’s education and seeking recommendations for him to attend Harvard Law School. "I was introduced to (Obama) by a friend who was raising money for him," Sutton told NY1 city hall reporter Dominic Carter. "The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas." Apparently, al-Mansour serves on the Board of, among others, Saudi African Bank and was responsible for the Africa investment activities of Kingdom Holdings, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal's investment company. Harvard Law Review On February 6th, 1990, Obama became the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. The job is considered the highest student position at Harvard Law School. He manages to serve as president of the Harvard Law Review without ever publishing a SINGLE piece of signed, written work -- not one! Update: Politico claims that an unsigned -- and previously unattributed -- 1990 article was produced by Obama and offers a glimpse at hi's views on abortion policy and the law during his student days, and provides a rare addition to his body of work. The six-page summary, tucked into the third volume of the year's Harvard Law Review, considers the charged, if peripheral, question of whether fetuses should be able to file lawsuits against their mothers. Obama's answer: No. I sent Politico an email asking how they knew the document was produced by Obama, since it is "unsigned -- and previously unattributed." They never responded. Obama’s timing, however, was better than his writing. In the same spring 1990 term that he would stand for the presidency, the Harvard Law School found itself embroiled in an explosive racial brouhaha. Black firebrand law professor Derrick Bell was demanding that the Harvard Law School appoint a black woman to the law faculty. This protest would culminate in vigils and protests by the racially sensitive student body, in the course of which Obama would compare the increasingly absurd Bell to Rosa Parks. Feeling the pressure, HLR editors wanted to elect their first African American president. Obama had an advantage. Spared the legacy of slavery and segregation, and having grown up in a white household, he lacked the hard edge of many of his black colleagues. "Obama cast himself as an eager listener," the New York Times reported, "sometimes giving warring classmates the impression that he agreed with all of them at once." In February 1990, after an ideologically charged all day affair, Obama’s fellow editors elected him president from among 19 candidates. As it happened, Obama prevailed only after the HLR’s small conservative faction threw him its support. Obama was elected after a meeting of the review's 80 editors that convened Sunday and lasted until early this morning, a participant said. Until the 1970's the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon. Curiously, once elected, Obama contributed not one signed word to the HLR or any other law journal. As Matthew Franck has pointed out in National Review Online, "A search of the HeinOnline database of law journals turns up exactly nothing credited to Obama in any law review anywhere at any time. "After his appointment, the NY Times carried a story in February 1990, which included a few quotes from Obama: "The fact that I've been elected shows a lot of progress," Mr. Obama said today in an interview. "It's encouraging." "But it's important that stories like mine aren't used to say that everything is O.K. for blacks. You have to remember that for every one of me, there are hundreds or thousands of black students with at least equal talent who don't get a chance," he said, alluding to poverty or growing up in a drug environment... On his goals in his new post, Mr. Obama said: "I personally am interested in pushing a strong minority perspective. I'm fairly opinionated about this. But as president of the law review, I have a limited role as only first among equals." Therefore, Mr. Obama said, he would concentrate on making the review a "forum for debate," bringing in new writers and pushing for livelier, more accessible writing. Unlike most editors, and likely all its presidents, Obama was not a writer. During his tenure at Harvard, he wrote only one heavily edited, unsigned note. In this note for the third volume of the 1990 HLR, he argued against any limits on abortion, citing the government’s interest in "preventing increasing numbers of children from being born in to lives of pain and despair." Well, the new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review. And, it worked! In other words, Obama was the first affirmative action President of the Harvard Law Revue. Einstein and the Law In a page-one footnote of what may be the zaniest-titled article ever published by the Harvard Law Review: "The Curvature of Constitutional Space: What Lawyers Can Learn From Modern Physics," authored by noted legal scholar Laurence Tribe. The 39-page densely argued treatise argues that constitutional jurisprudence should be updated in a similar way that Einstein's theory of relativity replaced Newtonian mechanics, a view that would release judges from the original intent of the Founders of America. Published in 1989, with help of the much younger and politically greener Mr. Obama, the long-ago article could indicate his views on the Constitution, which, if he is elected, could come into play in such matters as his choice of nominees to the Supreme Court. If Mr. Obama captures the White House, he might not curve space but may settle for setting aside a high-altitude seat on the Supreme Court for his former teacher, Mr. Tribe, who is the Carl M. Loeb University Professor at Harvard. The Plan Abner Mikva, a five-term congressman from Illinois who was at that time Chief Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. circuit, tried to recruit Obama as a clerk, a position considered a stepping stone to clerking on the Supreme Court, but Obama turned him down. "He could have gone to the most opulent of law firms," David Axelrod, a longtime friend who is now Obama’s media adviser, said. "After Harvard, Obama could have done anything he wanted." The Carl M. Loeb Professor at Harvard University, Laurence H. Tribe, taught Obama and employed him as a research assistant. He remembers him as a "brilliant, personable, and obviously unique" person. Tribe said that Obama’s theoretical perspective on applying modern physics to law was "very impressive." "He is obviously a serious intellectual as well as a fantastic campaigner who can reach across boundaries," Tribe said. "He will make an extraordinarily fine president." David B. Wilkins , the Kirkland and Ellis professor of law, said he advised Obama to become a Supreme Court Clerk. "Obama recognized the honor in pursuing that post," Wilkins said, but quickly added that he wasn’t interested. "He said that he wanted to write a book about his life and his father, go back to Chicago, get back into the community, and run for office there. He knew exactly what he wanted and went about getting it done," Wilkins said. Obama works hard to dispel the image of having sought his superstar status. "It's not about me, it's about you," he likes to tell his crowds. But according to those who know him, he has been talking about the presidency for more than a decade. "It was clear to me from the day I met him that he was thinking about politics," says Harvard Law School classmate Christine Spurell. The one thread, that remains consistent, throughout Obama's life, is his teacher's, mentor's and friend's recollection of Obama's single-minded pursuit of high political office. Juris Doctor Obama graduates from Harvard Law School in 1991. He received his Juris Doctor law degree, magna cum laude. The Loans Michelle Obama tells of the collection calls they used to get from the "loan debt people". Mrs. Obama clearly implies that the family's hardship was caused merely by living in this hellhole that is America, usually right after she mentions their onerous student loans. However, the Obamas have thus far refused to validate these stories of loan collection, despite requests from Chicago papers, or the source of the debt. Obama's personal loan of $20,000 to his failed Congressional race seems like a very likely culprit for any loan collection calls they might have received. Thus, the Obamas should provide the financial records that validate their claims about bill collector calls, if they exist, and be honest about the source of the debt. Certainly, the loan itself gives lie to the Obamas' stories about their financial hardship due to their being "just regular people"; regular people don't loan themselves large sums of money for rash and obviously doomed congressional races. The most trivial, and yet in many ways the most revealing, of the Obama campign distortions involves their incessant invocation of their school loan burdens. Yet the Chicago Tribune has asked them to produce evidence of their school loans and they've not yet complied. Tellingly, they made too much money since 2000 for their loan interest to be deducted, so they can't even prove that they finally paid off the loans in 2003, as they constantly claim. Obama received a full scholarship to Occidental, which he rejected after two years in favor of Columbia. Did he get a similar deal at Columbia? What grants and loans did the Obamas receive while at Harvard? Again, these may seem like trivial amounts. However, the Obamas have consistently presented their life story as a rags to riches tale in which they triumphed over the odds just like ordinary people. But they've offered no proof. Given Obama's career reliance on patronage and kingmakers, the reality may be very different from their touching campaign anecdotes. The Rabbi The AP reported that attorney Judson Miner called Harvard to offer a job to a graduating student named Barack Obama and didn’t expect to be showered with gratitude. Still, he wasn’t expecting the reception he got. "You can leave your name and take a number," the woman who answered the phone at the Harvard Law Review said breezily. "You’re No. 647." That was 1991 and even then Obama was a hot commodity. As the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama had his pick of top law firms. He chose Miner’s Chicago civil rights firm, where he represented community organizers, discrimination victims and black voters trying to force a redrawing of city ward boundaries. Besuki Redux "Good Luck, Barry!" the shout gave birth to Indonesia's Obama Fan Club established by the childhood friends and alumni of the Democrat party's presidential candidate. (Photo at link) The shout of support was given by 18 childhood friends of Barack Obama from when he went to school at SDN 01 Menteng (Besuki Primary School), Indonesia on Saturday, March 1st, 2008, at 2:30pm. 18 of the original 40 of Barack Obama's classmates gathered around in the schoolyard against a backdrop on the roof that read "Good Luck Barry".

[darrels joy]

African Press International:
An Open Letter to Michelle Obama
UPDATES to follow at end of story
UPDATE #1 - 1705 EDT
“The intention of writing to you this open letter is to appeal to you to confirm that we had a talk because it is the only right thing to do now, so that we avoid any embarrassment should the whole tape be aired unedited.”
BREAKING
Editor Addresses Open Letter to Michelle Obama
Concerning Her Phone Call to API
From African Press International Chief Editor KorirAn open letter to Michelle Obama after API’s discussion with a CIA official in Oslo:

I have decided to write this open letter and to refer you to our telephone conversation the day your husband was having a debate with his opponent in New York. This has to be an open letter because the story is already out there and many Americans are crying for the truth about what we discussed.
I know our discussion was not meant to harm your husband’s candidacy nor was it meant to derail the US Presidential elections in any way. We both know that our talk was - a sister to brother talk - black to black person talk - in the African perspective. The problem came later when we listened to the taped recording of our talk. API thought it wise to publish some of the contents that are not inflammatory. API did the best to select that which could not cause any chaos and we in API did not expect that waht we chose to publish would have the impact it now has had in the last five days.
Many Americans have surprised us in the way they take the interview very seriously. We want to respect them - as we have promised from day one - to let them know the truth in what transpired between yourself and us. We have realised that the American people want to know you well before you probably become their first Lady.

Chief Editor Korir then lays out his reasons for publishing the open letter.

The intention of writing to you this open letter is to appeal to you to confirm that we had a talk because it is the only right thing to do now, so that we avoid any embarrassment should the whole tape be aired unedited. You are well aware of our discussions touching on thorny issues like Iran’s good trade relationship with Kenya and the fact Kenya may play a role in mending the relationship between Iran and the US so that healthy trade relationship may be achieved if your husband gets the presidency. Remember the length and the depth of our talk on other issues of importance in this hotly contested election where as you have stated - is an opportunity for the black people to start being proud of America and to be patriotic.

Korir writes that he was “disappointed” that the Obama campaign denied that Michelle Obama had called African Press International. API still apparently believes that the campaign acted in good faith by denying the call: that the campaign simply was uninformed.
Perhaps API is right.

API was disappointed that one of your husband’s spokespersons rushed to the press to deny that you had called API. It is best that they check with you first before jumping to conclusions as if they control your private calls everyday.
API is interested in handling this matter in a good and reasonable way so that we may not be forced to release the tapes in its entirety. We do not want to be party to causing unnecessary chaos before the elections. If you just come forward and confirm that there was a call you placed to API, that will enable API to be out of it and nobody will continue to demand that we air unedited tape, but that we can release the one with information that is already known to the public.

API is still wary of the legal ramifications of airing the tapes and apologizes that Michelle Obama did not “know the conversation was being taped”.

We will appreciate solving this matter this way in order to avoid unnecessary law suits that may come about.
It is my apology to you that we did not let you know that the conversation was being taped, and yet I expect you to know that being a public figure, such may happen.
We have decided to write to you after our discussion today with a US CIA official in Oslo.

African Press International has retained Phillip Berg of Berg v. Obama, to represent it legally.
To the whack jobs on both the Left and Right: we shall see what develops in the next few days.
Chief Editor Korir sees the Obama campaign’s denial and raises one audio tape.

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UPDATE #1 - 1705 EDT
Jeff Shreiber, whose America’s Right blog has been the definitive source for reasoned coverage of the Berg v. Obama federal lawsuit over Barack Obama’s birth certificate, contacted Berg over the API tapes.
African Press International Insists Michelle Obama Tapes to be Released Within 24 Hours
Update: API retains counsel–Philip Berg–for U.S. distribution of taped evidence

I asked Philip Berg, via e-mail, whether or not he thought the API/Michelle Obama tapes were real and whether they would in fact be released within the next day or so as Chief Editor Korir maintains. His answer was simple, and firm.
“Yes,” Berg wrote.

Schreiber, a writer on legal issues, was sure the phone call story was a phony–at first. Now…

You know, folks, I really hope that I’m dead wrong on this one. I’ve said from the beginning that the article in question, standing alone and without supporting evidence, wasn’t enough to convince me of the authenticity of the statements, but if the tapes surfaced and were real, obviously all bets were off.
Should I be wrong on this (and even over and beyond this post at API’s Web site, I have reason to believe that I am), I will gladly own up to it — once I’m finished doing the dance of joy in my living room.

For a complete background on Berg v. Obama, visit America’s Right archives on the right sidebar of the site.
UPDATE #2 - working

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