Invasion of the North

I'm unclear about something. From what I remember the US never
invaded the north. Why was this? Did it have something to do with
the fact that war was never declared? There was something called the
DMZ. Was the US not allowed to cross this line(on the ground)?

Yeah, I was afraid, very afraid.

"Mac The Finger" wrote in message news:8ec3b611.0311230517.295a2362@posting.google.c om...
> I'm unclear about something. From what I remember the US never
> invaded the north. Why was this? Did it have something to do with
> the fact that war was never declared? There was something called the
> DMZ. Was the US not allowed to cross this line(on the ground)?

but going west was a pic-a-nic wasn't it Yogi...

"FOB" wrote in message
news:Zw4wb.10189$m84.3790859@news1.news.adelphia.n et...
Yeah, I was afraid, very afraid.

"Mac The Finger" wrote in message
news:8ec3b611.0311230517.295a2362@posting.google.c om...
> I'm unclear about something. From what I remember the US never
> invaded the north. Why was this? Did it have something to do with
> the fact that war was never declared? There was something called the
> DMZ. Was the US not allowed to cross this line(on the ground)?

That's against the Law, I'm Law abiding ya know.
I loved Chicken man too.

"Wakyer Eagle" wrote in message news:iI5wb.2796$2V5.311@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com ...
> but going west was a pic-a-nic wasn't it Yogi...
>
> "FOB" wrote in message
> news:Zw4wb.10189$m84.3790859@news1.news.adelphia.n et...
> Yeah, I was afraid, very afraid.
>
> "Mac The Finger" wrote in message
> news:8ec3b611.0311230517.295a2362@posting.google.c om...
> > I'm unclear about something. From what I remember the US never
> > invaded the north. Why was this? Did it have something to do with
> > the fact that war was never declared? There was something called the
> > DMZ. Was the US not allowed to cross this line(on the ground)?
>
>

"Mac The Finger" wrote in message
news:8ec3b611.0311230517.295a2362@posting.google.c om...
> I'm unclear about something. From what I remember the US never
> invaded the north. Why was this? Did it have something to do with
> the fact that war was never declared? There was something called the
> DMZ. Was the US not allowed to cross this line(on the ground)?

LBJ would not permit an invasion of the North because he remembered Korea,
when the Chinese came into the war once Peking decided that we were out to
topple a friendly socialist regime on its borders. We know now that Peking
and Hanoi did indeed have a pact which involved the entry of China into the
war,

The Joint Chiefs had contingency plans for such an eventuality, and they
involved the use of tactical nuclear weapons.

>>>>
I'm unclear about something. From what I remember the US never
invaded the north. Why was this? Did it have something to do with
the fact that war was never declared? There was something called the
DMZ. Was the US not allowed to cross this line(on the ground)?
>>>

If I am not mistaken, when the French was about to withdraw from Vietnam,
the United States offered them nuclear weapon to use against the VietMinh.

After the Geneva convention signed in 1954 which partitioned Vietnam into
north and south at the 17th parallel, the united states under the
administration of Eisenhower was prepared to invade North Vietnam with its
huge naval present at sea, but it needed some kind of international support
to avoid being called a war monger. So the United States went to its nato
allies asking for support, none of them said yes. The United States went to
its closest ally, great Britain just like it did in the war in iraq to ask
for support. Great Britain's prime minister said no.("Vietnam:A History" By
andrew karnow) So, the invasion did not take place, but sort of. Because
the united states wanted to go to war so bad because it was the only war we
got, so a mini war called subversion of north Vietnam was created just right
after the Geneva Convention of 1954. What the united states did was pumping
up the south Vietnamese army, which was none existence before 1954 with arms
and money. The united states trained south Vietnamese commando how to
sabotage north vietnam factory, oil field and army base. From 1954-1964,
U.S navy assisted and landed many of these commando into north Vietnam to
carry out such subversions. Most of these subversions failed, and in the
end, in 1964 helped to contribute to wider the conflict with an incident
with north Vietnam's torpedo boat that resulted in the gulf of tonkin
resolution. And what an incredible irony it was. Just a year before 1954,
1953 it was in the height of the McCarthy Era which senator Josepth McCarthy
went on a witch hunt accusing hundreds and hundreds of people of communist
subversion in the united states. The only true communist subversion he
found was the Rosenberg family with later found was soviet's spy. However,
hundreds and hundreds of government employees, actors and actress in
hollywood, whose lives were completly destroyed because of McCarthy witch
hunt. The best and most recent movie to depict the McCarthy era is "The
Majestic" available at your local block buster store or library. And just
one year after 1953, the United States was doing the same kind of subversion
as it accussed the communist doing on a far away country we called Vietnam.
don't we love history?

unknown wrote:
>
>
> If I am not mistaken, when the French was about to withdraw from Vietnam,
> the United States offered them nuclear weapon to use against the VietMinh.
>
You're mistaken.
> After the Geneva convention signed in 1954 which partitioned Vietnam into
> north and south at the 17th parallel, the united states under the
> administration of Eisenhower was prepared to invade North Vietnam with its
> huge naval present at sea, but it needed some kind of international support
> to avoid being called a war monger. So the United States went to its nato
> allies asking for support, none of them said yes.

Not even close. What does NATO mean? How about SEATO, then?

The United States went to
> its closest ally, great Britain just like it did in the war in iraq to ask
> for support. Great Britain's prime minister said no.("Vietnam:A History" By
> andrew karnow) So, the invasion did not take place, but sort of. Because
> the united states wanted to go to war so bad because it was the only war we
> got, so a mini war called subversion of north Vietnam was created just right
> after the Geneva Convention of 1954.

hahahahaha
Is your day job with the Hanoi Times?


What the united states did was pumping
> up the south Vietnamese army, which was none existence before 1954 with arms
> and money.

Look up the list of units fighting for the French prior to 1954 and try
figuring out which are French and which are native. Do you really think
every soldier in Vietnam was a Vietminh?

> And just
> one year after 1953, the United States was doing the same kind of subversion
> as it accussed the communist doing on a far away country we called Vietnam.
> don't we love history?

You obviously only love the delusions you call history.

Al Zeller