Lies Conservatives tell

[exlrrp]

"What is truth?"
Well, its often easier to tell whats a big fat lie, like the above.
So many of you wrote to ask me how I could be so sure of myself, I thought I'd explain. This is only another time where literacy whips ass on conservative lies.
i know all about the Coulter book and she is another person who should be sorry she pissed me off with her lies. You can always tell a huge egotist because they have their pictures on the front AND the edge of the book. Every time I go into a bookstore now, I take all her books an stick them in the lithuanian cookbook section. [th ol lrrp kills, then fades back into the bushes, silently] You shouldn't piss lrrps off, its unlucky. So Ive been told.
And before I go further, to those people asking me to chill: why don't you ever, EVER ask the other side to chill? You can expect more of this as long as CERTAIN PEOPLE show up. This is an issue of integrity?If I caught a Democrat posting this huge a lie, I?d be on him too, but nicer

No i knew this was a big fat lie right away-I KNOW what the true circumstances of the S&L Scandal were and why it was not called the S&L Tax Crunch?and how ridiculous his claim is

I?m going to take it apart word by word:

?The US Tax Code changes that were made by your liberal Democratic congress years ago, that devalued real estate holdings as an investment, were the major causes for the S&L failures you're alluding to.?
You can tell this is a Big Fat Lie right away because
A) is there a literate person here who does not know that reagan was the most effective tax code writer in the early and mid 80s, ACCORDING TO REPUBLICANS, anyway. Theyre still singing hosannas to him This mean that he doesn?t believe what his own party?s been saying for decades.
B) I can?t think of ANY liberal tax rewrite EVER that did this (devalued RE as an investment) and I would have heard of it?I own property including rental property and have done since 1981?this is made up of whole air
C) Anybody who knows ANYTHING knows there is no linkage at all between the tax codes and the S&L Scandal. None. Zero. Nada

?After these socialists determined that these changes neede to be made, S&L's started dumping their real estate portfolios, which in many cases were the bases for profitability of S&L's to begin with.?
AGAIN a real laugher. This is not how the government is run and socialists don?t run it?ESPECIALLY not during this period when reagan was writing the policy that became Reaganomics (?Lowered taxes plus increased military spending equals HUGE deficits? right?) No, Reagan controlled the Senate and missed the House by a small minority the first 4 years?this was the Reagan Revolution. Anybody who says the liberals were in charge of tax policy during the Reagan revolution better change his brand of crank. What was heartily endorsed by Reagan during this time was the Gar St germain De reg Act which opened up S7Ls to looting by the same wealthy people who so frequently populate the republican Party an are now raping true capitalism (self: a true capitalist, no doubt, don't EVEN call me a Commie or socialist. Put too many holes in em)

?The truth and reality is that you should be blaming your socialist/liberalcongressthugs, rather than Ronaldus Maximus Reagan?
Now here?s where the guy REALLY gets off into Loomalooma Land. ?soc/lib/cong/thug? is such a strange, contradictory, ignorant bleat from a namecalling stupe/dum/milt/ass/hol, no doubt, I won?t even argue with it-- the point is to look at who starts calling names first. this is Army style, am I right?
And his ?truth and Reality? are just nothing but goddam lies, LOOK THEM UP YOURSELF!!! There?s a good comment here about how Hero-Worshippy-Of-idiots the conservatives are?Ronaldus Maximus reagan was how he though of himself, too?TOO BAD ROYALTY IS SO F------G UNAMERICAN!!. (Reagan insisted CA build him a new house, BTW, just like his loyal friends built him a $4mil house after he retired, for services rendered ?you BET he controlled the purse strings here, according to him, anyway)

Now why is this a goddam lie instead of being merely wrong? It?s the tone. When someone obviously hates people this much that he won?t even look up basic facts before he starts slandering them, this is a goddam lie. Remember the phony letter that b?s posted about Al Gore that he claimed was real? (this was back on vets.com) I told him it was an obvious lie that anyone with the IQ of a pickle would see right away and then he?d look like a liar. I also said he wouldn?t make a good point man. I was AMAZED and APPALLED how many people signed on to his letter saying that it SHOULD have been true if it wasn?t. I was the only one on that page that thinks posting lies about ANYBODY even Al Gore) is wrong. Not acording to conservatives?that page is still there. I?m glad to see at least THAT?S not getting said here again?posting lies is nothing but wrong whoever does it. IF I EVER POST SOMETHING YOU TJHINK IS A LIE CHALLENGE ME ON IT!!!! I want to know, I really do,its a matter of integrity Ive made serious mistakes before (i.e., enlisting) I was also amazed at the effrontery?I?m the only lrrp point man here and who else would know what a good pointman should be
And finally, I just discovered that as a CA resident, I pay 4% more taxes than this person does and so I can only say to him: Pay your dam taxes like a man and quit crying about it, its unmanly!! As long as there?s a hungry person or a poorly educated kid in your state youre not paying enough!!Seek spiritual help to curb your dam avariciousness! Is there no man of God among you people? Ask him how whining about your taxes will get you into heaven and Ask him what the saying" render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's" means to him
Paste that in your goldbraided hat!!

James Worth

[Packo]

Would someone please wake me up when James finishes.

James, you crack me up. "All conservatives are liars, all liberals truthful". Nah, just can't buy what your selling but that's why this is America. You've got your opinion, I've got my truths. But thanks for trying.

Packo

[exlrrp]

somebody has accused me of being a thief, which I confessed and I have to say he was right--I stole a lot of stuf from the Army. I figured if it was there to help the troops fighting th war, and I was fighting the war, than no one deserved it more than me. if I had a gun in my hands and needed something, well, I just walked up and took it--I was a grunt. I would ALWAYS share wih my friends. well, almost always. You know what they called the 101st, don't you? "Homeless people with guns"
Example: While I was in ft bragg, on detail in central supply one day i came across a mountainof fur lined pile caps. We were running maneuvers in Dec and there as snow on theground and nobody had a pile cap but our CO. I took the 3 pfc's I was commanding, ordered them to pick up a case apiece, linred them up and marched them out the door in my best "LT Smith ordered me to do this" attitude, took them back in a military deuce and a half AND PASSED THEM OUT TO PARATROOPERS GOING OUT ON MANEUVERS!! This was freelance socialism at its finest. Sorry if it lost the war, really, oh absolutely
Example: me and my best friend stole an MP jeep while they were ocupied wih another lrrp who had cornered them with a grenade, al the tim being personally naked (th lrp, not the MPs)
We then scratched our opinon of 1st cav MPs on the hood an p-ssed n the seats.Geez that was childish, that really was. i don't regret it for a minute, tho. Send me the bill, I want to frame it and pass it down to my grandkids!!!!
the .45 that I stole from the Army i got from a friend who wouldn't need it ever again and had sentimental value for me--send me the bill for that one too!! It was later stolen from me in a burglary, as was the Mauser I brought home--got that one too from someone else who wouldn't need it ever again
I used to think of myself as Robin Hood, stealing only from the Army or big corporations I worked for. then my first sponsor asked me if I knew what they called someone who only stole from big corporations and he Army--a thief.
I paid back PGE and the VA but I didn't pay back the Army--I figured we were even for not paying me the first 3 months I was in Panama (records lost in transit) i spent the rest of my tour there paying Shylock vig.

I did worse things than that also
I just try to be honest, one day at a time, sometimes its an effort, sure enough, not 100% ever. How's that for honesty? Can anybody else look me in the eye and and say he didn't steal something from the Army--let him cast the first stone if so Check what I say very closely--the ol lrrpster knows how to run bullsht also--thats why I know it when I see it

james Worth

happy just to be alive


PS Pack--I'm right about the S&Ls, arent I?

[xgrunt]

and should be taken with a grain of salt.Over the years the terms Liberal and Conservative have connated different ideals depending on the times. A Liberal in the '30s was usually a Democrat who was willing to try any programs that would get the U.S. out of the thros of the depression while the main conservative of the time H Hoover thought it was a problem for the states. Now we have a Conservative President who is a centrist and expanding government more than FDR. The term liberal has been hijacked by the small numbered but large mouthed EXTREME LEFT. So I consider myself a HUMANIST who feels that the governments job is not to meddle needlessly in our lives but to ensure that the playing field is level for everyone. Our country's infrastructure is falling apart[bridges, roads, railroads]. Meanwhile everyday brings more and more disclosures of lies,cheating and outright theft costing billions of dollars and jobs in the thousands by men who without a doubt call themselves conservatives. The PC police and the radical left are too busy diverisfying[sp] our culture that we have lost sight that America is a melting pot where everything melds together and not a salad where you separate the different ingrediants. My point to this screed? When you are so busy bashing over labels,than your ranting and not communicating.By the way I voted for Nader for one main reason, He didn't owe his soul to the company store.

[exlrrp]

Originally posted by xgrunt
and should be taken with a grain of salt.:

You are sooo dead el righto.
Yall won't believe this but I'm very conservative on some issues (death penalty, gun ownership) I'm also a very financial conservative--its the Conservatives who act uncapitalistically that should know this.

Nader? A Vote For Nader is a Vote for bush, unfortunately although I really am a Nader kind of guy. if Nader runs again I may have to do sometjing quietly ( NOOO THREAT HERE!!)
Bush didn't beat Gore--Nader beat Gore

Have a good'n bro, you too Packo

James

Happy just to be alive

[Andy]

Sis: Lord Byron said, "Truth is beauty, beauty is truth, that's all yee know and all yee need to know". What is truth - look in a mirror.

Keith: There's going to be a pow wow all right, but if some People get too deep into my really good stuff, there will will be P.O.W.s, Wow, huh?

James: I do agree with some of your points, not all of them, but some. One issue I'd ask lots of people to remember. Take some of these posts regarding republicans - democrates or liberals - conservatives and replace those words with Negros - Crackers. Seems some posts reek with prejudice. How would it sound if people were arguing over all the problems in the country by saying it's all the fault of the the Protestans or Catholics or Jews?

I'd be a lot more interested in, "I like Senator X because of his/her idea on "Y", that's always more interesting than, THEM are the bad guys. Of course pointing out a specific wrong that a specific person has done is also informative. But the US Vs. Them, that gets a little old.
(Just my opinion.)

Stay healthy,
Andy

[exlrrp]

you know I just like to fight--I thought thats what the Army wanted, with all the equipment they hung on me it was hard not to grasp the concept. they called us "Gentlemen!!" but treated us like sht so there were some contradictions.

God bless, big guy

james

happy just to be alive

[xgrunt]

your comment that a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush is the knee-jerk comeback that I thought you were so against. Let's look at the facts- Only the Fla vote and the supreme court decided the election for Dubya. In Alabama Bush won big. So the facts are, I didn't want to vote for either Bush OR Gore, so, I voted for the man I approved of.[knowing he had no chance]. So to state that a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush is basically a lie. It's only purpose is to infer that I wasted my vote and helped elect someone you disapproved of. Both of the Parties Dem and Rep have become interested in only retaining power and like any other junkies they will degrade themselves for anyone who will help them in getting and staying in power. I forget who said it but"A good politician is one who when you buy him,he stays bought." Your thoughts are always interesting but like you said I'm gonna call you when I think your wrong. xgrunt

[phuloi]

I usually try to avoid political discussions because I don`t enjoy the confrontational nature said rhetoric seems to invariably get lost in.However;RALPH NADER?!? PULLLL-EEEEEEEZE! Makes me very,very scared to think of where this nation would be today had Nader and his Greenies been seated.Trying to imagine his cabinet appointments:SECSTATE-Jesse Jackson.SECDEF-So-sueme X (or whatever his name is,leader of the "New Black Panthers).AG-H.R.Clinton.OH-Teddy would be a perfect fit for SECTRANS.Hard-eee har-har...I`m having fun with this.Is Abbie Hoffman still alive?

[xgrunt]

I knew Nader didn't have a chance and I wouldn't want him in office but all politics is grassroots and until there is a viable alternative to the Big Two I will vote for the man not the machine. We as vets and this country and all of it's policys are being whipsawed between the power plays of both parties and as a result all of our reactions are reactive not active. I usually don't talk politics or religion it's a useless conversation but I stand by my right to vote for who I want and to worship my higher power without anyone else trying to cram their politics or their God on me. After all thats what I was supposed to be doing for the South Viets for the year I humped my ruck and rifle.