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Old 01-31-2004, 07:26 PM
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I get it, a Bass Boat is a Navy Helo!
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Originally posted by BLUEHAWK I get it, a Bass Boat is a Navy Helo!
No, I added the photo and wiped out my reply. Hey if brains were gold, I'd need a loan and a co-signer.

Ahh, oh yeah. This is the Navy Forum so don't expect any slack from this old Squid, not here anyway. I can take it as well as the next guy. I only mean it in good fun, I get out of hand just let me know.

A bass boat is something an enlisted man can't afford on what uncle pays him. Bass boats is fer sissy boys. I do my fresh water fishing from a canoe. Salt water fishing in the Delaware Bay on a charter. One day I'll do the Yellow Fin Tuna trip... Gotta get a job first to pay for that one. Right now, I do some ice fishing, yellow perch are all that are hitting lately. Bass are down deep and the trout don't seem to be feeding. Going to try an other lake and hopefully the Pickerel with be moving.
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There's some Oakies back where I lived (Tulsa), reeb on here knows about them, who actually DIVE into rivers practically naked and GRAB big fish off the bottom with their bare hands!

And by the way (you may have covered this earlier in that long list of classifications) but I have seen Carriers the deck of which is pretty much running north and south alongside the tower, and there are other where the deck seems to have a north/south AND a NE/SW deck too... I think the planes take off on the straight one and land on the catywhompas one... but then also I have read about certains "Class" of Carriers, and so wonder what those are, and how they got their names?
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I had the fortune of living in a brand new house right in the landing zone at Nellis AFB, NV; home of the Thunderbirds and original support base for the Stealth Fighter program. Many a FB-111 would blast over our house and rattle the windows & china. The worst was the annual return home from tour of the T-Birds. They would kick in after burners at minimum height off the deck. My poor son was only 6 months old at the time. I swear the kid has hearing problems to this day.
As for C5s making a great target heres a little known story:
In 1987 at Dover AFB a C5 (Tail #008) was siting out on the fuelcell line. This is basically a spot way out in the middle of the airfield away from the rest of the flightline. We had drained her tanks for inspection and maintenance and turned it over to the day shift. When we drain the tanks the fire suppression system is taken off line, don't need all that nitro dissipating for no good reason. The day shift had pulled her grounding wires and was prepping to tow her into the fuel docks. A freak thunderstorm cropped up and a bolt struck her right wing just inside the outboard engine. The wing exploded and half fell to the ground carrying the multimillion dollar GE TF33 engine along with it. We all hit the ground when the explosion went off. Then started running to the planes, we thought we were under attack!!
Once things calmed down, fire out, and we could get a good look at the plane it was the most amazing thing I ever witnessed. It took Lockheed and Dover nearly a year to get her airworthy again. I recently found a picture of her in Germany on a tour. I couldnt be more proud of that plane. She's quite the comeback kid.

Tell me something...If navy wings have anchors attached, how do the planes get off the ground??
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Tell me something...If navy wings have anchors attached, how do the planes get off the ground??
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Blue..

This may help with your question about the shape of the decks on the carriers: http://www.air-navy.com/carev13.htm

Carriers were called:

CV Aircraft Carrier Currently still in use

CVA Attack aircraft carrier

CVAN Attack aircraft carrier, nuclear powered.

CVB Large Aircraft Carrier

CVE Escort aircraft carrier.

CVH Helicopter Carrier

CVHA Assault Helicopter Transport

CVHE Escort Helicopter Aircraft Carrier.

CVHG Helicopter Carrier with guided missile armament.

CVL Light aircraft carrier.

CVN Nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. Currently still in use.

CVS Support (ASW) Aircraft Carrier.

CVT Training Aircraft Carrier

CVU Utility Aircraft Carrier

I don't know what they all were, most of the time they were mission related.
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Your completness astounds the old Zoomer... but what I was asking is a question I could not form... the Navy calls them a certain "Class" of carrier oir sub or frigate or cruiser, such as (this is fictitious) a "John Paul Jones" class.

What is that about, those classifications associated with great Naval leaders?

I mean, how is that decided? How is a Zoomer to know what they are meaning?

I asked the question wrong.
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How come ya'll have to have so MANY names to call things?

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Your completness astounds the old Zoomer... but what I was asking is a question I could not form... the Navy calls them a certain "Class" of carrier oir sub or frigate or cruiser, such as (this is fictitious) a "John Paul Jones" class.
What is that about, those classifications associated with great Naval leaders?
I mean, how is that decided? How is a Zoomer to know what they are meaning?
I asked the question wrong.
Oh, I gotta ya. Well it's a simi easy answer. A class of ship is normally named for the first one made that differs from one before it. For example the Forrestal class of Carriers the Forrestal CV-59, Saratoga CV-60, Ranger CV-61 and Independence CV-62 were all of the same class, Forrestall.
Now they went and moved an aircraft elevator from aft of the island structure to forward of the island, thus this was a new design, thus a new Class, Kitty Hawk. That class includes the Kitty Hawk CV-63, Constellation CV-64 and the America CV-66 Then things get a bit screwed up, the Enterprise CVN-65 is a class of her own. The Kennedy originally was to be a nuke but she was fitted as a conventional carrier CV-67 she is in a class of her own. Then the Nukes started Nimitz CVN-68 and that class continued until the USS Truman CVN-75. I'm not sure if the Reagan CVN-76 will start a new class or not, her Island Structure is very different from the others in this class...
What you also need to keep in mind is that I was an Airedale, Aviation is my field. You're asking suface navy questions! Notice I only stuck with the carriers in my answer, because I know a bit about them the other ships are only a guess, but the class naming is pretty much the same, first ship sets the standard until it is changed.
Now if the Ships name happens to be that of a Naval hero then the class name carries over to them all.
Any help? I'll keep trying if not.
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How come ya'll have to have so MANY names to call things?
Also.
Gives some collage boy something to do. Ships under changes much like aircraft. They are upgraded, mods made, etc.
That last letter in an A/C designation is a good example.
The HS-3G, well that turned into the HS-3H. Best way to tell them apart is by the pontoons. You should get the picture by now, sure you saw a few A/C changes?
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