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Old 10-17-2005, 08:24 PM
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Default The Party of 'Treason'!

If a senior White House staffer had intentionally outed an American spy during World War II, he'd have been shot.


We're at war, George Bush keeps reminding us. We cannot continue with business as usual. A pre-9/11 mentality is deadly. Putting the lives of our troops at risk is treason.


Then why is the White House and the Republican party engaged in a concerted campaign to make treason acceptable during a time of war? That's exactly what they're doing. On numerous Sunday news shows yesterday, Republican surrogates, their talking points ready, issued variations of the following concerning White House chief of staff Karl Rove's outing of a covert CIA agent as part of a political vendetta:

- It's the criminalization of politics
- Is this 'minor' leak really worth all this?
- Political payback is common and should not be criminalized
- Mis-speaking or mis-remembering is not a crime


Yes, the Republicans are now making light of an intentional effort to expose an undercover CIA agent, working on weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East, no less, while we are at war in the Middle East on that very issue.


The GOP has become the party of treason.


It would be one thing for a senior adviser to the president to put the nation's security at risk during a time of war. That could be explained as an aberration - a quite serious one, no doubt - but a fluke nonetheless. But when the president himself refuses to keep his own word about firing that aberration, and when the entire Republican party rallies around that fluke and tries to minimize what is usually a capital offense during wartime, something is seriously wrong with that party and its leadership.


But when a senior aide to the President of the United States endangers the life of an undercover CIA agent, her colleagues and contacts around the world - when he chooses to put at risk our entire effort to uncover weapons of mass destruction before they are used to kill millions in an American city - what response do we get from the Bush White House and the Republican Party? A defensive (and blatantly offensive) shrug.


The Republican party's gift to the American people, and the Bush administration's legacy, will be the normalization of treason. They are trying to convince Americans that betraying our country during wartime for personal gain is no more serious than running a stop sign or going 60mph in a 55mph zone.


If a senior aide to the president had intentionally outed an American undercover agent during World War II, an agent whose work was central to our mission of defeating the Germans, that aide would very likely be put to death. While I am not as yet arguing that Karl Rove be executed, it is the height of hypocrisy and hubris for the Republican party to attempt to minimize a crime that not only puts our troops at risk, but risks the lives of every American man, woman and child.


It is truly a sad day when the Republican party minimizes treason in a selfish attempt to defend a traitor.
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Old 10-18-2005, 04:28 AM
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One last time: nobody in the White House exposed a CIA agent. If you're referring to Valerie Plame, by the very definitions of the law that you're screaming has been violated, she wasn't a covert agent. You probably don't know what a covert agent is, but that's understandable. To make this charge as you stated makes you a liar. That's also undertandable. For making the charge as you did, I highly recommend to David that you be banned from this site.
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Your obvious outrage, clearly the 'charge' as you call it must have some relevance.

Whatsamatta, you can't understand what the majority of folks in this country believe?

How can you stand to apparently condone this kind of behavior?

Were YOU not one who just a very short while ago who categorically stated that 'perjury', 'obstruction of justice' and other supposed related crimes were in fact 'treasonous' to the American people? Remember the Kenneth Starr investigation? has you shortsighted memory once again failed you?

Now that 'indictments' are surely in the short term future, you are not willing to admit you were WRONG???

Just asking?


If David were to use your 'criteria' for 'banning' someone from this site................YOU would have been GONE a long, long time ago!
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Old 10-18-2005, 05:42 AM
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PROOF PROOF PROOF...NOT INUENDO, BUT PROOF PROOF PROOF.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:54 PM
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Why Patrick Fitzgerald Gets It

By Larry Johnson |

Oct 13, 2005 -- 09:47:02 PM EST

From AP Wire Services: Politics



Federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald understands very well that something beyond a crime was committed when Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, and other White House operatives spread the name of undercover CIA officer, Valerie Plame, around Washington as part of a coordinated effort to discredit her husband, Ambassador Joe Wilson.

Someone needs to alert Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen that he is a nitwit and moron for trying to advance White House supplied talking points that no real crime occurred.


Here are some of the facts that will come out when Fitzgerald ends his investigation:

Valerie Plame was still a non-official cover officer in July 2003 when her identity was revealed by colostomy bag Bob Novak.

Valerie Plame had traveled overseas on secret missions using that cover as required under the statute in question.

Valerie Plame's exposure as well certainly compromised the identity of other non-official cover officers.

Valerie Plame did not have the authority to send her husband on the Niger mission and in fact did not make the decision.


Other mental midgets like Cohen, such as Victoria Toensing, continue to insist that no crime could have been committed because Valerie Plame, "worked at a desk job". Newsflash for these so-called Washington insiders who have proven they know nothing about the intelligence community--at least 40% of the people working at CIA Headquarters are working undercover.

Just because they may physically go to the CIA building in McLean, Virginia everyday does not mean that their relationship with the CIA is acknowledged.


During my four years of sitting at a desk at CIA I was undercover. My position with the CIA was not even known by my own parents. Only my wife was privy to that secret. Many of the undercover folks still working at CIA are at headquarters on a temporary basis. Some travel overseas on temporary assignments that last less than a month. Others await a semi-permanent posting for a two or three year stint overseas.


The point that Cohen and the other White House hacks have missed is that protecting the identities of intelligence officers, whether they are working under official or non-official cover, is part of national defense. To compromise these identities is to commit an act of treason.


Patrick Fitzgerald understands that he must prosecute within the confines of the law. However, he also understands that what was done to the wife of Ambassador Joe Wilson was more than a rough game of inside the beltway hardball. Karl Rove told Chris Matthews that "Wilson's wife is fair game". Not only was she an unfair target, but in going after her the White House political crew unwittingly exposed several intelligence assets and caused the loss of intelligence assets overseas.


Richard Cohen is dead wrong to argue that the best thing Patrick Fitzgerald can do is leave town. To the contrary, the best thing Patrick Fitzgerald can do is a send a clear message to politicians in both parties that when it comes to political hardball intelligence assets must be kept out of the game. At the end of the day our nation's security is no game, it is a matter of life and death.



**********Larry C. Johnson is the Managing Partner and founder of BERG Associates, LLC, an international business-consulting firm based in Washington, D.C. BERG that specializes in counter terrorism and money laundering investigations. Prior to forming BERG, Mr. Johnson worked with the Central Intelligence Agency (1985-1989) and the Department of State's Office of the Coordinator for Counter Terrorsim (1989-1993) . Since 1994 Mr. Johnson has helped script terrorism exercises for the U.S. military forces that have the counter terrorism mission. Mr. Johnson also has served as an instructor for the U.S. State Department's Anti-Terrorism Training Program, where he has lectured on Current Terrorist Threats and Trends and on International Accords for Combating Terrorism to officials from more than 45 countries.
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Proof? Sworn proof? Hard copy proof?
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Unlike most folks who are skeptics until offered irrefutable proof that someone is guilty of a crime. Gimpy sees "Truth" and "Guilt" as long as the accused is a Republican" and the accusation emanates from the bowels of the DNC. It doesn't look like there will be any indictments to come of this witch hunt, and there's some speculation going around now that Valerie Plame's own husband is the culprit. Miller "Can't remember" who told her!
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Would you like that 'crow' served up there Smurphy baby?

I'll make SURE you're offered up a LARGE portion of it when you have to eat those words along with all the other folks who believe as you do when the Federal Prosecutor hammers those involved in this act of unethical, and more than likely criminal and treasonous conduct!
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WOW!!!,...you some sick puppy or at least not dealing with-a-full-deck.

After all,..."The Democrats/Socialists/Leftists posing as Liberals" acting so treasonably anti-America and pro-foreign and UN normally and for so many years calling Republicans: "The Party of Treason",...IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD & ACTUALLY QUITE ASININE TO-BOOT.


In fairness, only fools or idiots could possible believe The DNC nonsense you and others so echoingly churn out with regularity,...so you and such are relatively harmless to sane and sensible Americans and/or not thoroughly brainwashed Dem Dupes.

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Just have to say to you what I said in another post to the 'Smurph'..................you'll be needing some 'side dishes' of 'humble pie' to go along with that 'crow' you're going to be eating after this bunch is heading to prison!

Just remember...............you heard it from tha 'GIMPSTER' first!

PS............You'll notice I chose NOT to stoop to the NAME calling and character assasination that you are Soooooooooooooooo adept and frequent Sooooooooooooo often

Is that 'afiliction' a particular trait of 'your' kind.........or what???

Just asking?
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