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Old 04-16-2009, 06:34 PM
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MEXICO CITY – A shootout between Mexican troops and a convoy of gunmen left 15 assailants and one soldier dead hours before President Barack Obama arrived in the country to show his support for the fight against drug cartels.

The shootout happened in a remote, mountainous region in Guerrero state, where the Pacific coast resort of Acapulco is located, Mexico's Defense Department said in a statement Thursday.

Soldiers came under fire from a convoy of gunmen on Wednesday while patrolling the drug trafficking hotbed. One was killed and another wounded in the battle near the town of San Nicolas del Oro. Troops later seized two .50 caliber Barrett rifles, 17 other rifles, eight grenades, two handguns, ammunition and eight vehicles.

Obama met Thursday in the capital with President Felipe Calderon, who has sent more than 45,000 troops to drug hotspots since taking office in 2006. More than 10,670 people have died in drug violence since then, about 10 percent of them police and troops killed in the line of duty. The rest have been smugglers, many killed by rival gang members, the government says.

Other deaths due to drug violence on the eve of Obama's visit included three young men whose bodies were stuffed into the trunk of a car abandoned along a highway between Acapulco and Zihuatanejo, another Pacific resort where traffickers have recently been attacking police with grenades and high-powered weapons. The men had been beaten, tortured and strangled, state police said.

In Rosarito, just south of the California border, authorities found the decapitated body of a police officer who had been kidnapped by gunmen the previous day. And in Ciudad Juarez, across from El Paso, Texas, a woman was shot in the head while driving through a residential area.

Elsewhere, a group of masked gunmen killed two men in military uniforms early Thursday in a remote jungle area near Guatemala.

Police in the nearby town of La Trinitaria said the victims were soldiers, but the defense department did not immediately confirm that. Traffickers sometimes wear military uniforms. The victims, who had their eyes covered with tape and their hands and feet bound, were tortured before being shot in the head, officials said.

In the Pacific port city of Lazaro Cardenas, police found the bullet-riddled body of a man, his head covered with a plastic bag and his feet and hands bound with tape. On Wednesday, three others were found tortured and killed in different parts of Michoacan state, where Lazaro Cardenas is located.

Drug violence tops the agenda for Calderon and Obama, who has vowed to send hundreds of agents to the U.S. border to stem the flow of guns and money to cartels. Both governments say most illegal guns seized in Mexico come from the United States.

Calderon also wants the U.S. to reinstate an assault weapons ban that expired in 2004, but Obama is not expected to do that.

Meanwhile, Mexico said it will open a spy school; create a secure, internal database and improve intelligence-gathering systems to strengthen national security. The school will be run by the government's spy agency, the Center for National Security and Investigation, known in Spanish as Cisen, the Interior Department said Thursday.

Created in 1989, Cisen allegedly once spied on political opponents of the Institutional Revolutionary Party, which ruled Mexico for 71 years until 2000.

Calderon's office says the government needs better intelligence to go after cartels. Cisen has been weakened by years of budget cuts, his office said.
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:04 AM
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It's all the dangerous drugs. Money is being made hand or over fist. It's a job. Deadily as is - it means money in the pocket and food on the table. Mexico is vast and many of their people are good but have found little support from their government.

Illegal Drug's will grow as long as people have a need for them. It's illegal - who cares there's a market for the product and lots of money to be made. That's the mind set.

With all than money comes power - and we know the rest. Gang's are mostly those with little education and no work. Kid's will hang together - eventually it becomes a gang. What the gang does is work as a family of sorts - they watch out for their own. Kid's join gangs for protection - for the excitement - and all pay the severe penalties when it goes bad.

Kid's not in gang's are considered outsiders. They have litte in common with those in gangs. The gang's don't like outsider's so the pick on those trying to go another direction in life. Its a catch 22 for those not in gangs. It's a battle just trying to survive.

Mexico - Warrez - been there. Dirt poor - living in box cars - tin shanties and no jobs. Perfect for crime and gang activities. Dangerous place.

But as long as people use these illegal drugs there is a need. Supply and demand. Money to be made. Killings - you bet! Crime is and will remain big business. You got something I want - they take it. Why because they will kill you to have it.

Guns always accompany Drugs. Sorry to say - the 1800 killed last year in Warrez will go up and up and up. There is no fix and the Mexican Army won't stay there forever. Mexico has its problems as does the states. Central America if full of this money making drug selling instutions. As long as people want illegal drugs they will strive and grow.

Very sad for those people living in those areas where they are constantly intiminated by those gangs. They have no place to go - its the bottom of barrel. Very Sad Indeed.
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I agree. That is such a bad and sad environment for those not part of the gang. They have to survive not only poverty but violence as well. SAD.
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