More On Jane Fonda And The Anti War Movement

"Ashland Henderson" wrote in message
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> herr_stormtruppen_al_franken@yahoo.de (Adolph Al Franken - Brown Shirt
Left Wing Fascist) wrote in message
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> > "unknown" wrote in message
news:...
> > > http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~hbf/nation.htm
> > >
> > > "1,500 crew members of the USS Constellation signed a petition
demanding
> > > that Jane Fonda's antiwar show be allowed to perform on board"
> >
> > Post a link.
> >
> > > "At home, veterans led the marches and demonstrations, including the
1971
> > > assembly of a half-million protesters headed by a thousand Vietnam
veterans,
> > > many in wheelchairs and on crutches, who paraded up to a barricade
erected
> > > to keep them from the Capitol and hurled their Purple Hearts, Bronze
Stars,
> > > and Silver Stars at the government that had bestowed them."
> >
> > Yeah sure. This was the same gang who spat on Vietnam Vets. The same
> > hippies who lied that they were Vietnam Vets to try to get from
> > benefits. Read the book Stolen Valor or go to their web site:
> >
> > http://www.stolenvalor.com/
> >
> > The book documents how Kerry, Fonda and the other lefties lied and
> > smeared real Vietnam Vets.
> >
> > http://www.nyjournalnews.com/newsroo...15dadsday.html
> >
> > "I had to fly from San Francisco, Travis Air Force Base, to JFK
> > (airport), but to get the military discount, I had to wear my uniform.
> > I can't describe the look of scorn I got from people," said Yonkers
> > resident Harvey Goldberg, who served in the Air Force in Vietnam and
> > whose son, Marine Sgt. David Goldberg, recently returned from Iraq.
> >
> > Williams, the American Legion official, recalled that when he came
> > back from Vietnam in 1969 and landed in San Francisco, he and other
> > Marines ducked into a men's room and took off their uniforms to avoid
> > being berated and even spat on by people opposed to the war.
> >
> > "I was so concerned that I told my friend not to tell anyone that I
> > served in Vietnam," he said.
> >
> > http://www.hackworth.com/12nov96.html
> >
> > During the Vietnam War -- which divided our nation like no conflict
> > except the Civil War -- Peaceniks such as Tom Hayden and Jane Fonda
> > said those who fought there were baby killers and murderers. Upon
> > returning home, our soldiers were abused, spat upon and in many cases
> > accused by their WWII and Korean War veteran fathers of being yellow
> > bellied punks who caused our country to lose its first war.
> >
> > I'm sure the Haydens, Fondas and the wrongheaded fathers are now sorry
> > they attacked the young men and women who dutifully went when the
> > nation called. Just as most of the 13,000,000 young Americans like
> > Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich and Phil Gramm who didn't do their duty
> > and go, choosing instead to dodge the draft, now regret that decision.
> > And no doubt Jane Fonda laments going to the enemy's capital and
> > allowing herself to become a photo op with a North Viet gun crew while
> > her countrymen were fighting and dying on the orders of their
> > president.
>
> All this sillieness is always interesting to me. I was in and out of the
> San Francisco airport frequently in 1970 and 1971, in my uniform. I was
> generally there on my way to and from visiting friends in Berkeley and
> Oakland. I was never spit on, never received hard, bad, or evil looks,
> and never had a bit of trouble or felt anything but safe and welcome.
> Always makes you wonder how history is rewritten to support this or
> that point someone is trying to make.

I came and went through Seattle/Tacoma and I never saw anything like that
either. More important is that Kerry is a slave to special interests.

-*MORT*-

"Alan" wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 1145 -0600, "Nigel Brooks???4?"
> >
> >As an American and a Vietnam Vet I believe that the United States of
America
> >did the right thing by going to Vietnam.
> >
> >Count
> >
> >1 For
> >
> >Nigel Brooks
> >
>
> How come you're American again ?
> ---
> Alan

The pay and standard of living is excellent

--
Nigel Brooks

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:01:57 -0600, "Nigel Brooks²°°4©"
wrote:

>"Alan" wrote in message
>news:89ni20pcsumng0ji945fjioukdpifqco3d@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 1145 -0600, "Nigel Brooks???4?"
>> >
>> >As an American and a Vietnam Vet I believe that the United States of
>America
>> >did the right thing by going to Vietnam.
>> >
>> >Count
>> >
>> >1 For
>> >
>> >Nigel Brooks
>> >
>>
>> How come you're American again ?
>> ---
>> Alan
>
>The pay and standard of living is excellent
I bet it helps that you don't have to eat that liver and kidney pie
shit too.

"unknown" wrote in message
news:9u2dndSmSNxdkbTdRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> >>>
> Which is it, a thousand vets or half a million?
> >>>>
>
> My apologize for not read the fine print correctly, but it is not make much
> of a different whether a thounsand vets or half a million protesters showed

English must be a second language for you.

> up at the Mall. They are all american, and there were more than half a
> million showed up to oppose the war. Moreover, most of America and many
> Vietnam Vets believed the war was wrong.

Proof? Most of the people I knew supported our vets. It was just a vocal
minority that was out there protesting.

Is it fun going through life with your head up your ass?

Engineer

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:52:24 -0800, Patrick t.
wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:01:57 -0600, "Nigel Brooks2°°4c"
> wrote:
>
>>"Alan" wrote in message
>>news:89ni20pcsumng0ji945fjioukdpifqco3d@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 1145 -0600, "Nigel Brooks???4?"
>>> >
>>> >As an American and a Vietnam Vet I believe that the United States of
>>America
>>> >did the right thing by going to Vietnam.
>>> >
>>> >Count
>>> >
>>> >1 For
>>> >
>>> >Nigel Brooks
>>> >
>>>
>>> How come you're American again ?
>>> ---
>>> Alan
>>
>>The pay and standard of living is excellent
>I bet it helps that you don't have to eat that liver and kidney pie
>shit too.


Ahem. It's Steak an' kidney pie, and at this moment in time, I
would swap my left bollock for a few tins of Fray Bentos.Tis a food
from the Gods. BTW, Pat, I sent you email.
---
Alan

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 1036 +0900, Alan wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:52:24 -0800, Patrick t.
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:01:57 -0600, "Nigel Brooks2°°4c"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Alan" wrote in message
>>>news:89ni20pcsumng0ji945fjioukdpifqco3d@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 1145 -0600, "Nigel Brooks???4?"
>>>> >
>>>> >As an American and a Vietnam Vet I believe that the United States of
>>>America
>>>> >did the right thing by going to Vietnam.
>>>> >
>>>> >Count
>>>> >
>>>> >1 For
>>>> >
>>>> >Nigel Brooks
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> How come you're American again ?
>>>> ---
>>>> Alan
>>>
>>>The pay and standard of living is excellent
>>I bet it helps that you don't have to eat that liver and kidney pie
>>shit too.
>
>
> Ahem. It's Steak an' kidney pie, and at this moment in time, I
>would swap my left bollock for a few tins of Fray Bentos.Tis a food
>from the Gods. BTW, Pat, I sent you email.
>---
>Alan
I guess who told me about it must have had a hell of an accent because
I misunderstood them then.

I guess you guys don't bang her and mash her for breakfast either then
huh?????

>>>>
>>>>The pay and standard of living is excellent
>>>I bet it helps that you don't have to eat that liver and kidney pie
>>>shit too.
>>
>>
>> Ahem. It's Steak an' kidney pie, and at this moment in time, I
>>would swap my left bollock for a few tins of Fray Bentos.Tis a food
>>from the Gods. BTW, Pat, I sent you email.
>>---
>>Alan
>I guess who told me about it must have had a hell of an accent because
>I misunderstood them then.
>
>I guess you guys don't bang her and mash her for breakfast either then
>huh?????


I'm still pissin' meself laughin' over JP's email.
---
Alan

"Morton Davis" wrote in message news:...
> "Ashland Henderson" wrote in message
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> > herr_stormtruppen_al_franken@yahoo.de (Adolph Al Franken - Brown Shirt
> Left Wing Fascist) wrote in message
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> > > "unknown" wrote in message
> news:...
> > > > http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~hbf/nation.htm
> > > >
> > > > "1,500 crew members of the USS Constellation signed a petition
> demanding
> > > > that Jane Fonda's antiwar show be allowed to perform on board"
> > >
> > > Post a link.
> > >
> > > > "At home, veterans led the marches and demonstrations, including the
> 1971
> > > > assembly of a half-million protesters headed by a thousand Vietnam
> veterans,
> > > > many in wheelchairs and on crutches, who paraded up to a barricade
> erected
> > > > to keep them from the Capitol and hurled their Purple Hearts, Bronze
> Stars,
> > > > and Silver Stars at the government that had bestowed them."
> > >
> > > Yeah sure. This was the same gang who spat on Vietnam Vets. The same
> > > hippies who lied that they were Vietnam Vets to try to get from
> > > benefits. Read the book Stolen Valor or go to their web site:
> > >
> > > http://www.stolenvalor.com/
> > >
> > > The book documents how Kerry, Fonda and the other lefties lied and
> > > smeared real Vietnam Vets.
> > >
> > > http://www.nyjournalnews.com/newsroo...15dadsday.html
> > >
> > > "I had to fly from San Francisco, Travis Air Force Base, to JFK
> > > (airport), but to get the military discount, I had to wear my uniform.
> > > I can't describe the look of scorn I got from people," said Yonkers
> > > resident Harvey Goldberg, who served in the Air Force in Vietnam and
> > > whose son, Marine Sgt. David Goldberg, recently returned from Iraq.
> > >
> > > Williams, the American Legion official, recalled that when he came
> > > back from Vietnam in 1969 and landed in San Francisco, he and other
> > > Marines ducked into a men's room and took off their uniforms to avoid
> > > being berated and even spat on by people opposed to the war.
> > >
> > > "I was so concerned that I told my friend not to tell anyone that I
> > > served in Vietnam," he said.
> > >
> > > http://www.hackworth.com/12nov96.html
> > >
> > > During the Vietnam War -- which divided our nation like no conflict
> > > except the Civil War -- Peaceniks such as Tom Hayden and Jane Fonda
> > > said those who fought there were baby killers and murderers. Upon
> > > returning home, our soldiers were abused, spat upon and in many cases
> > > accused by their WWII and Korean War veteran fathers of being yellow
> > > bellied punks who caused our country to lose its first war.
> > >
> > > I'm sure the Haydens, Fondas and the wrongheaded fathers are now sorry
> > > they attacked the young men and women who dutifully went when the
> > > nation called. Just as most of the 13,000,000 young Americans like
> > > Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich and Phil Gramm who didn't do their duty
> > > and go, choosing instead to dodge the draft, now regret that decision.
> > > And no doubt Jane Fonda laments going to the enemy's capital and
> > > allowing herself to become a photo op with a North Viet gun crew while
> > > her countrymen were fighting and dying on the orders of their
> > > president.
> >
> > All this sillieness is always interesting to me. I was in and out of the
> > San Francisco airport frequently in 1970 and 1971, in my uniform. I was
> > generally there on my way to and from visiting friends in Berkeley and
> > Oakland. I was never spit on, never received hard, bad, or evil looks,
> > and never had a bit of trouble or felt anything but safe and welcome.
> > Always makes you wonder how history is rewritten to support this or
> > that point someone is trying to make.
>
> I came and went through Seattle/Tacoma and I never saw anything like that
> either. More important is that Kerry is a slave to special interests.

I'd have to say "As opposed to who?" Pretty much all politicians are slaves
to special interests. Given Kerry's money I suspect he is less a slave than
some. I certianly think that the country is in the hands of special interests
now and I don't think the interests involved give much of a damn about the
people.

"Ashland Henderson" wrote in message
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> "Morton Davis" wrote in message
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> > "Ashland Henderson" wrote in message
> > news:441d41d1.0402101519.15b0e959@posting.google.c om...
> > > herr_stormtruppen_al_franken@yahoo.de (Adolph Al Franken - Brown
Shirt
> > Left Wing Fascist) wrote in message
> > news:<68d92f02.0402101053.3c5e7a6f@posting.google.com>...
> > > > "unknown" wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > > > http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~hbf/nation.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > "1,500 crew members of the USS Constellation signed a petition
> > demanding
> > > > > that Jane Fonda's antiwar show be allowed to perform on board"
> > > >
> > > > Post a link.
> > > >
> > > > > "At home, veterans led the marches and demonstrations, including
the
> > 1971
> > > > > assembly of a half-million protesters headed by a thousand Vietnam
> > veterans,
> > > > > many in wheelchairs and on crutches, who paraded up to a barricade
> > erected
> > > > > to keep them from the Capitol and hurled their Purple Hearts,
Bronze
> > Stars,
> > > > > and Silver Stars at the government that had bestowed them."
> > > >
> > > > Yeah sure. This was the same gang who spat on Vietnam Vets. The
same
> > > > hippies who lied that they were Vietnam Vets to try to get from
> > > > benefits. Read the book Stolen Valor or go to their web site:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.stolenvalor.com/
> > > >
> > > > The book documents how Kerry, Fonda and the other lefties lied and
> > > > smeared real Vietnam Vets.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.nyjournalnews.com/newsroo...15dadsday.html
> > > >
> > > > "I had to fly from San Francisco, Travis Air Force Base, to JFK
> > > > (airport), but to get the military discount, I had to wear my
uniform.
> > > > I can't describe the look of scorn I got from people," said Yonkers
> > > > resident Harvey Goldberg, who served in the Air Force in Vietnam and
> > > > whose son, Marine Sgt. David Goldberg, recently returned from Iraq.
> > > >
> > > > Williams, the American Legion official, recalled that when he came
> > > > back from Vietnam in 1969 and landed in San Francisco, he and other
> > > > Marines ducked into a men's room and took off their uniforms to
avoid
> > > > being berated and even spat on by people opposed to the war.
> > > >
> > > > "I was so concerned that I told my friend not to tell anyone that I
> > > > served in Vietnam," he said.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.hackworth.com/12nov96.html
> > > >
> > > > During the Vietnam War -- which divided our nation like no conflict
> > > > except the Civil War -- Peaceniks such as Tom Hayden and Jane Fonda
> > > > said those who fought there were baby killers and murderers. Upon
> > > > returning home, our soldiers were abused, spat upon and in many
cases
> > > > accused by their WWII and Korean War veteran fathers of being yellow
> > > > bellied punks who caused our country to lose its first war.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure the Haydens, Fondas and the wrongheaded fathers are now
sorry
> > > > they attacked the young men and women who dutifully went when the
> > > > nation called. Just as most of the 13,000,000 young Americans like
> > > > Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich and Phil Gramm who didn't do their duty
> > > > and go, choosing instead to dodge the draft, now regret that
decision.
> > > > And no doubt Jane Fonda laments going to the enemy's capital and
> > > > allowing herself to become a photo op with a North Viet gun crew
while
> > > > her countrymen were fighting and dying on the orders of their
> > > > president.
> > >
> > > All this sillieness is always interesting to me. I was in and out of
the
> > > San Francisco airport frequently in 1970 and 1971, in my uniform. I
was
> > > generally there on my way to and from visiting friends in Berkeley and
> > > Oakland. I was never spit on, never received hard, bad, or evil looks,
> > > and never had a bit of trouble or felt anything but safe and welcome.
> > > Always makes you wonder how history is rewritten to support this or
> > > that point someone is trying to make.
> >
> > I came and went through Seattle/Tacoma and I never saw anything like
that
> > either. More important is that Kerry is a slave to special interests.
>
> I'd have to say "As opposed to who?" Pretty much all politicians are
slaves
> to special interests. Given Kerry's money I suspect he is less a slave
than
> some. I certianly think that the country is in the hands of special
interests
> now and I don't think the interests involved give much of a damn about the
> people.

Describes Kerry quite well.

-*MORT*-

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:00:22 +0900, Alan wrote:

>
> I'm still pissin' meself laughin' over JP's email.
>---
>Alan
Yea well, you know that had to hurt like hell.