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Old 12-14-2003, 02:14 PM
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Default Hey, William Kristol - 'Hit the Road, Warmonger!'

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Hey, William Kristol -
'Hit the Road, Warmonger!'
By William Hughes
12-12 03

Just who is William Kristol? He's a Neocon, Chicken Hawk, TV Talking Head,
Israeli Firster and unrepentant warmonger. I saw him speak at a pro-Iraq War
rally, held on the nation's Mall, in Washington, DC, on April 12, 2003, just
weeks after the Bush-Cheney Gang unleashed the dogs of war in Iraq.

I was standing in front of a woman at that event and overheard her say of
Kristol, "Oh, look how small he is!" The rally was headlined by the convicted
felon, G. Gordon Liddy. It was kind of a surreal gig, since the comedian Ben
Stein also surfaced on a huge movie screen. Stein wasn't funny at all that day. He
was out in LA, urging the flag-waving DC-based crowd, as did Kristol, to
support the Iraq War. Kristol, however, didn't want the U.S. invasion to stop at
Iraq. He insisted in his inflammatory remarks that there were other Muslim
countries that George W. Bush should also target for mayhem.

On another scary level- -and I know this sounds impossible- -it seems that
Kristol's mug is embedded in my TV set! He is ubiquitous! When he is on TV or
cable, I quickly reach for my remote, but mostly to no avail. It's like he has
this uncanny ability to appear at once on all of the news/talk programs,
particularly on Rupert Murdock's "Foxy News" network. However, this isn't all bad.
If Kristol is hogging up the tube, it does mean that the Mother of all the
Neocons, Richard Perle, is being denied air time.

Maybe, because of Kristol's harsh rhetoric, you might suspect that he is
going to be bigger in person, like say a Rush Limbaugh. Instead, Kristol fits more
into the bantamweight mold of actor Mickey Rooney. (Oh, by the way, Limbaugh
was supposed to also speak at the rally. Sadly, he was a no show. He probably
couldn't get the "medicine" he needed to get himself "up" to travel to DC from
that luxurious, $24 million, oceanside Florida mansion of his. Too bad, his
"Ditto Heads" were visibly disappointed.)

Nevertheless, the truly amazing thing about Kristol from my perspective is
this: He never seems to demonstrate any real feelings or visible compassion for
his subject matter. None! I have never seen him show any genuine human
emotion. I suspect that if there were a machine that could accurately record the true
feelings of a speaker, Kristol's political rants would score zero, or even,
possibly, in the minus-zero category.

America's soldiers, who are serving and dying in Iraq appear to mean little
or nothing to Kristol. They are just a "commodity" to be used by him, like our
Republic is, to push forward his more wars in the Middle East agenda. It seems
he doesn't see the Iraqi people as human beings either, and forget about the
Palestinians. The late, Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir hatefully barked
that the Palestinians "never existed." Kristol acts the same way towards them.
The next time he appears on TV, watch him very closely. He reminds me of "HAL,"
the computer from the space film "2001," with no soul, heart or feelings.

Then, there is this issue of a lack of media accountability. Kristol has been
one of the most rabid cheerleaders for the U.S.-led war against Iraq. He
wrongly claimed, like so many of his Neocon cronies, that Iraq had WMD, ties to al
Qaeda, and that "exporting democracy" to it would be a walk in the park. Yet,
he has never been called to account for his asinine opinions, that have put
so many brave Americans and our fading national treasury at risk. It's like all
his idiocies go down a convenient Memory Hole. Kristol can say anything he
wants. If he wrong, it's forgotten! Sooner or later, he has to be right about
something. It's the law of averages. Then, when he is, I suppose he will be
acclaimed as a prophet, and awarded a dubious journalism prize, (probably named
after that Arab-bashing hack, A.M. Rosenthal). It is all just so painful and
insidious.

The other day, Kristol had another predictable spiel in Murdock's rag, the
"NY Post," (12/10/03). It was entitled, "How Dean Could Win." Of course, Kristol
doesn't want Howard Dean, a Democrat, to win. He favors the reelection of
Bush. His point was that unless the president is really "committed to victory" in
Iraq, he could lose the next election to Dean.

Kristol was all in a tizzy about what he labeled, a secretary of state (read
Colin Powell) that is looking for "diplomatic compromise," and a secretary of
defense (try Donald Rumsfeld), that is fixated "to an odd kind of
muscle-flexing disengagement." It also bothered the armchair warrior, that Bush's chief of
staff, Andrew H. Card, had made a recent statement about the Iraq War that
indicated he, too, wasn't quite bloodthirsty enough about pursuing the immoral
conflict. Poor, frustrated zealot, Kristol!

In one of the ancient Greek colonies, if a lawmaker proposed a new law, a
noose was tied around his neck. If the bill didn't carry, the lawmaker was hanged
(Will Durant's "The LIfe of Greece.") Regretfully, we don't have a legal
device such as that, which would apply to agitators, like Kristol. He schemed to
get the U.S. into the Iraq War that wasn't ever in our national interest. Iraq
has already cost the taxpayers $89.7 billion (costofwar.com) and the lives of
453 of our finest troops (lunaville.org).

The Neocon Kristol seeks only endless wars for the U.S. It is long past the
time for the people to tell him: Hit the road, warmonger!


William Hughes is the author of "Saying 'No' to the War Party" (Iuniverse,
Inc.). He can be reached at: liamhughes@mindspring.com.
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Old 12-16-2003, 05:20 AM
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Laurence -

You are a gentleman and a scholar and a mortrar dude DUDE!

Nice one, I despise that insipid little perfumed prince... damn him!
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Old 12-16-2003, 08:44 AM
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Default And now for the defense...

Whoever this William Hughes is, intellectually speaking he couldn't carry the jock strap of William Kristol. Instead of jousting as real men do, he quickly resorts to the tried and true tactic of name-calling, a typical playground bully technique that has earned so much respect worldwide. Failing to undertand the multitude of reasons to going to war, he attacks Kristol for being pro-Israeli.

And notice how he introduces Liddy, an honorable man who served his, paid his debt to society, but is still vilified by the leftist apologists. And notice the class-warfare, I'm-jealous-of-others-success whining about Rush Limbaugh's residence! Like a petulant child, Hughes thinks that we should all condemn those who have more than we do.

Kristol appears on the FNC, which for the socialists is their worst nightmare, a valid news outlet that doesn't spew the party line, presents both sides of arguments, and let's the viewers decide what is right and what is left. The popularity of FNC, at the expense of CNN and the mainstream outlets, is a continuing source of angst, anger, knotted panties, and belching bile by those who think we should only hear one side of any story, the left side.

Do a little research on this Hughes character, and find out what a continual apologist for Palestinian terrorists he has been, and then you will have a better understanding of his obvious bias.
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rest my case!..............For those among us that continue to be "blinded by the right" (wing) rhetoric and SUPER-propaganda of said author of the above (directly above) nonsense being espoused..................does THIS not convince you how foolish and ridiculous their proclamations of "compassionate conservatisim" REALLY ARE!

For God's sake.......................G Gordon Liddy.......and "honorable" man???????????

Next he'll be trying to convince us that Heinrich Himmler, Adolph Eichman, Reinhard Heydrich, and othr SS Nazis' were just "misunderstood" followers of Hitler and actually "honorable" men whose actions were "vilified by the leftists apologists".

To give "praise" to such an example of ALL that is "wrong" with the "current" brand of so-called 'conservatism" as G. Gordon Liddy demonstrates just how far from main-stream America these radicals (like you-know-who) have degraded themselves!

What a tragedy.

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Default Ah, the voice from the dimly lit room

Not surprisingly, we have the Rasputin of the Radicals temporarily emerging to demonstrate his warped sense of comparison again. Let's see: a man was tried and convicted of breaking and entering, the stock in trade of a burglar, and he's being compared to the butchers of millions. Nice try, but an abysmal failure, but considering the source..............
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Larry,
I could be wrong but I?m pretty sure that?s the same Hughes who is a good friend of one of our town residents, a guy who is one of the two sons of Ethel and Julius Rosenberg. There was a ?movement? to clear the names of the Rosenberg?s and reparations for the family because the U.S. government had a witch hunt resulting in the execution of those two. The movement ended when the KGB files were opened and the U.S. left discovered, much to their dismay, that Julius and his wife were KGB agents.

Mr. Hughes is a blame America first sort of dude who believes there is never a cause which is worth going to war for. I?d think people would have figured out by now we can fight terrorism on their turf or on our own, as in 9/11. Can?t speak for others but I like the idea of fighting on someone else?s turf.

I was really struck by the way Hughes put down the other guy. He?s small, does that make him bad? Tom Cruise is small, about 5?4, he?s left wing, should we never watch a movie Cruise makes because he?s short?

He says it was wrongly claimed that there were WMD?s in Iraq. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Someone should tell the Kurds. It was also wrongly claimed that Iraq had ties to al Qaeda. Saddam gave $25,000 or more to all the suicide bombers in the middle east but wasn?t connected with al Qaeda. That?s a bit hard to swallow. And exporting democracy would be a walk in the park, did this guy really say that? I?ll have to dig out a history book or two but I doubt there are any examples of a nation moving from dictatorship, monocracy or whatever that was a walk in the park. If someone said it he should have been scoffed at then and there.

The author is inflammatory and certainly knows how to use ?hot words?. However socialism never was my cup of tea.

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No Al Qaeda connects, eh. For sure, Saddam and Osama weren?t taking candle lit showers together and terms of ideology are diametrically opposite. And it?s a fact that Saddam was on Osama?s hit list for eventual disposal, but so is everyone else in the region. At best they had a relationship of convenience as travelers on the same path. I suppose Hughes didn?t hear about the Northeast Iraq Al Qaeda training camp that was taken down or he just forgets to mention facts like that. Qusey?s Fedayeen was working alive with Al Qaeda members and right now Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq with more coming in by the day. Maybe in terms of the pot calling the kettle black, Hughes needs to examine his own veracity before pitching turds at others and spewing out yellow hate journalism.

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Default Comparisons??

Would you like to examine just a FEW?

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Project Gemstone: The Liddy operation to kidnap students who might disrupt the Republican convention in 1972; use prostitutes to compromise Democratic politicians. Attorney General Mitchell objected to the plan on the grounds it cost too much; he later approved a scaled-down plan. Mitchell, Haldeman and Jeb Magruder approved of Gemstone.

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In another documented effort, G. Gordon Liddy proposed firebombing the Brookings Institution.

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During his second day of testimony at his defamation trial, Liddy was asked whether he considered assassinating John Dean. He said Dean wasn't "worth the 25 cents it would cost to shoot him."

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Sounds like a "true" devotee and follower of the tactics used by those Nazis to me??? I can see how YOU would certainly hold him in high regard and have such "praise" for a convicted criminal and understand how well he "fits in" with the current "brand" of "compassionate conservatives" in your limited intellectual capacity however. You DO support the "Bushies"-----don't you Super??

NOW I understand!

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Hughes I dunno from Adam, but Kristol... that's a whole other topic... the man is a menace to this presidency.
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Liddy is and was a criminal. He is not honorable. Just because he refused to spill his guts, can hold his hand over fire and eat rats....I used to listen to his talk show, then did the research. William Kristol joins a long line of others who have evaded, shirked, and disdain the military, except when the troops are fighting and dying for some cause they deem "worthy".
Calling them "chicken hawks" is right on target.

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