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Old 02-21-2004, 09:09 AM
Bruce F. Kerry
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Default Lying John Kerry Now Claims He Never Called Vietnam Vets "babykillers"

They only have TV footage and his testimony under oath. What a liar
and stooge for Hanoi. This guy is scum.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...21/92521.shtml


Saturday, Feb. 21, 2004 9:23 AM EST
Kerry Denies Quotes Accusing U.S. Soliders of War Crimes

In a stark about-face, Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry
is now denying that he ever accused U.S. soldiers of committing war
crimes in Vietnam, despite amply documented comments - some televised,
others delivered while under oath - where he did exactly that.

Asked on Thursday whether he had accused his fellow soldiers of
committing war crimes in Vietnam during his April 1971 testimony
before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Kerry told CNN's Judy
Woodruff:

"No, I was accusing American leaders of abandoning the troops. And if
you read what I said, it is very clearly an indictment of leadership.
I said to the Senate, where is the leadership of our country? And it's
the leaders who are responsible, not the soldiers. I never said that."

However, a transcript of Kerry's April 22, 1971 testimony contains
accusations that his brother-soldiers committed all manner of
atrocities; charges he based on interviews of returning Vietnam vets
earlier that year at the Winter Soldier Investigation, an event Kerry
organized with anti-American actress Jane Fonda.

Kerry told the Senate that Winter Soldier witnesses "testified to war
crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes
committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at
all levels of command."

Speaking under oath, Kerry continued:

"They told stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears,
cut off heads, taped wires with portable telephones to human genitals
and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot
at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."

A few days before his Senate testimony, Kerry gave the following
account on NBC's "Meet the Press":

"There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes,
yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other
soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire
zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre
machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our
only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy
missions, in the burning of villages."

The future presidential candidate added:

"All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is
contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a
matter of written established policy by the government of the United
States from the top down."

Appearing on "The Dick Cavett Show" in July 1971, Kerry admitted that
he'd never actually seen some of the atrocities he testified about,
but still maintained that U.S. soldiers fighting in Vietnam routinely
violated the Nuremberg Principles.

"I personally didn't see personal atrocities in the sense I saw
somebody cut a head off or something like that," he told Cavett.
"However, I did take part in free-fire zones, I did take part in
harassment and interdiction fire, I did take part in
search-and-destroy missions in which the houses of noncombatants were
burned to the ground."

Kerry continued:

"And all of these acts, I find out later on, are contrary to the Hague
and Geneva conventions and to the laws of warfare. So in that sense,
anybody who took part in those, if you carry out the application of
the Nuremberg Principles, is in fact guilty."

CNN's Woodruff declined to confront Kerry with his previous comments
accusing his brother soldiers of committing war crimes in Vietnam.
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Old 02-21-2004, 09:26 AM
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"Bruce F. Kerry" wrote in message
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> They only have TV footage and his testimony under oath.


And not showing him calling anyone "babykillers".

>What a liar


You sure are.

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Please post your views often.

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Old 02-21-2004, 10:13 AM
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Bruce F. Kerry wrote:

> They only have TV footage and his testimony under oath. What a liar
> and stooge for Hanoi. This guy is scum.
>

You're a liar. And a coward.
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Old 02-21-2004, 01:16 PM
Ken
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 1844 GMT, GW Chimpzilla
wrote:

>Bruce F. Kerry wrote:
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>> They only have TV footage and his testimony under oath. What a liar
>> and stooge for Hanoi. This guy is scum.
>>

>You're a liar. And a coward.



and your a liar and an ass hole.
This has been your answer to the last 500 posts in which you've
responded.

Ken
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Old 02-21-2004, 01:23 PM
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Ken wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 1844 GMT, GW Chimpzilla
> wrote:
>
>>Bruce F. Kerry wrote:
>>
>>> They only have TV footage and his testimony under oath. What a liar
>>> and stooge for Hanoi. This guy is scum.
>>>

>>You're a liar. And a coward.

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> and your a liar and an ass hole.


Show me one quote where Kerry called vets "babykillers".

> This has been your answer to the last 500 posts in which you've
> responded.
>
> Ken
> 11Bravo


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Old 02-21-2004, 01:36 PM
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 2116 GMT, GW Chimpzilla
wrote:

>Ken wrote:
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>> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 1844 GMT, GW Chimpzilla
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Bruce F. Kerry wrote:
>>>
>>>> They only have TV footage and his testimony under oath. What a liar
>>>> and stooge for Hanoi. This guy is scum.
>>>>
>>>You're a liar. And a coward.

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>> and your a liar and an ass hole.

>
>Show me one quote where Kerry called vets "babykillers".



You just won
Your the biggest ASS HOLE on the net
Show me where I said that, hell in fact ask your Kerry buddies, I
backed them on that one, He only said everything else under the sun.

Your F L U S H E D too.

Ken
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"God must love stupid people, he made so many of them."
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Old 02-21-2004, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: Lying John Kerry Now Claims He Never Called Vietnam Vets "babykillers"

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 2116 GMT, GW Chimpzilla
wrote this crap:

>Show me one quote where Kerry called vets "babykillers".



"Vietnam vets are baby killers."

- John Kerry





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Old 02-21-2004, 02:37 PM
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Horvath wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 2116 GMT, GW Chimpzilla
> wrote this crap:
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>>Show me one quote where Kerry called vets "babykillers".

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> "Vietnam vets are baby killers."
>
> - John Kerry


No, that was Rush Limbaugh who wrote that. Sorry.
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> Horvath@Horvath.net
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> This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe


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Old 02-21-2004, 04:42 PM
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Horvath wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 2116 GMT, GW Chimpzilla
> wrote this crap:
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>>Show me one quote where Kerry called vets "babykillers".

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> "Vietnam vets are baby killers."
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> - John Kerry


Of course, that is not true, but we all know it, even Fudruckerton.

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Old 02-21-2004, 04:44 PM
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GW Chimpzilla wrote:

> Horvath wrote:
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>>On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 2116 GMT, GW Chimpzilla
>> wrote this crap:
>>
>>
>>>Show me one quote where Kerry called vets "babykillers".

>>
>>
>>"Vietnam vets are baby killers."
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>>- John Kerry

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> No, that was Rush Limbaugh who wrote that. Sorry.


Read the transcript or listen to it here:
http://www.democracynow.org/article..../02/20/1535232

Interesting to hear how articulate Kerry is. Contrasted to Bush, it must
be embarrasing for his supporters.

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