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Let's see now: Lesson #1 for the historically challenged - when an officer retires from active duty, or from his or her (to be PC) reserve status, they don't come back and sign letters, memos, or anything else except an occasional autograph for adoring fans. For Bush's superior officer to have signed one such "document" after his retirement is prima facie evidence of a forgery. Now repeat after me: F O R G E R Y. Just like CBS. Just like TJ Kerry. Not the real thing.
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ADDITIONAL American deaths, casualties, and POW torturings in Vietnam were caused by President Bush's Vietnam Era National Guard Service a Right Wing Conspiracy. Get real. You and all other die-hard and duped Democrat and/or Leftist excusers are getting downright intelligence insulting,...and more so than normal.

Such is no doubt due to desperation, since the more of Kerry's extremely short (3-4 month) Tour of Duty in Vietnam and the LENGHTY time spent Vietnam War Protesting that keeps bubbling up from the bottom of The DNC Cesspool,...The worst that makes ALL POWER & CONTROL HUNGRY DEMOCRATS look to most all The People. Thank God that most Democrats are so echoingly obvious.

Besides Gimpy, only fools could be led to believe that Bush's actions extended The Vietnam War and caused MANY MORE CAUSUALTIES THAN SHOULD EVER HAVE OCCURED,...as did the greatest Disservice to America Possible by treasonable Vietnam War Protestor LEADERS like Jane Fonda and TURNCOAT John Kerry, and duped followers like Bill Clinton.

Also, no: "Brave and Courageous Warriors fortunate enough returning home (intact or wounded) from Vietnam being spat-upon by Fellow Americans",...could possibly blame such on President Bush.
After all, even that kind of sick behavior was also solely attributable and caused by Vietnam War Protestor Leaders like John Kerry.

Gimpy,...it amazes me that you or ANY Veteran could stick-up for such pompous ilk and/or such a quite lordly political wannabe,...and especially during wartime. Hey,...wrong or Leftists votes NOW,...could get us all killed.

Maybe you should read my: "Pornography or Politics??" piece,...to get a better idea of what kind of societal pariahs or societal leeches you and others keep perpetually defending to the death of us all? Don't think it'll bore you?

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DAILY NEWS PUBLICATION .....September 10, 2004


President Bush' former Harvard Business School prof says his ex-student supported the Vietnam War but wanted somebody else to fight it.

Yoshi Tsurumi said yesterday that Bush told him his father's connections got him into the Texas Air National Guard. "But what really disturbed me is that he said he was for the Vietnam War," said Tsurumi, who has also taught at Baruch College and the City University of New York. "I said, 'George, that's hypocrisy. You won't fight a war that you support but you expect other people to fight it for you.' He just smirked."


Tsurumi, who crossed paths with Bush in the early 1970s when the future President was studying for his MBA, previously has criticized Bush's economic policies and described him as a mediocre student who "believed people were poor because they were lazy."

But Tsurumi's new volley comes as Bush has been battling allegations he got preferential treatment at the height of the divisive Vietnam War. Bush, according to Tsurumi, "had no sense of guilt" about getting into the Guard while others wound up fighting in Vietnam.

"He was very casual about it," the professor said. "I said, 'Lucky you, how did you manage it?' He said, 'My dad had a good friend who put me at the head of the waiting list. '"

The White House declined to comment on Tsurumi's recollections (no big surprise there, they just want this story to 'go away'....GIMP) , but Bush has denied that his father, who was a congressman at the time, pulled strings to get him a much-sought-after berth in the Guard.

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Actually, I long thought, about three seconds, that Gimpy was really, truly smarter than his last post implies, but alas, I was wrong, for which I apologize profusely. Now, we're all supposed to believe some long-lost college prof/rice burner that lo and behold, the future President of the United States would have been ill advised enough to utter such sophomoric drivel? Apparently all those hurricanes did suck all the oxygen out of Florida, leaving as least some of the residents quite brain-dead. Ain't it amazing how the desperate left-wing nutcases are suddenly finding all sorts of "sources," "documents," and "witnesses" in a vain attempt to derail the reelection train.

And if American troops are dying (the proper spelling, just in case you're using your dictionary to make yourself look taller), they're dying to help protect your ungrateful ass.
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Your hateful, blind to the truth, uninformed , hypocritical, feeble-minded, attempts to undermind the FACTS of what is actually happening are what's so futile and foolish.

Case in ponit!

Here are some of the grim statistics for you: For much of last year, the estimated number of insurgents throughout Iraq stood at about 5,000 . The number is now 20,000 . The average number of patrols conducted by coalition forces every day now stands at a near-record high -- more than 1,800 , compared with 1,600 last November . Last November , there were about 700 attacks on coalition forces in the country; in August , there were 2,700 . In June of 2003 , there were six attacks on Iraqi oil facilities; in August of 2004, there were 21.

For you to "question" my "gratefulness" is just another typical right-wing "tactic".

I have NEVER said I did NOT "support" our troops in the field! I have ALWAYS................and WILL ALWAYS support our troops in the field! I've probably organized more "support" through "care package" mailings and letter and card mailings to our troops than YOU ever even thought about attempting!

And, I've been screamin and hollerin at my Senators AND Congressmen AND the Whitehouse through letters, e-mails, town meetings, letters to newspapers & TV media outlets and any other GD way I could to make sure they have what they need to get the "job" done!

Don't forget................it WAS YOUR BOY GEE-W that sent into to harms way, ill equipped and under-supplied in the first DAMN PLACE! Had this been a "democratic" Pres that did this YOU"D be the first one in line hollerin for his impeachment!
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Yoshi Tsurumi - Who has left-wing, Bush-bashing political views ! Let's get to the truth of this PLEASE !

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CNN was oblivious Thursday afternoon to questions about the authenticity of the Texas Air National Guard memos supposedly written by President Bush's former commander, Jerry Killian, as Inside Politics hyped at the top of the show how President Bush is "on guard as more people come forward to question his military service three decades ago." Judy Woodruff quoted from the questionable memos, recited the claims of former Texas House Speaker Ben Barnes who, Woodruff asserted, "pulled strings for Bush," and she relayed how "a professor who taught Bush at Harvard Business School in the early '70s has written a letter to his local newspaper saying Bush, quote, 'admitted to me that to avoid a Vietnam draft, he had his father's friend skip him through the long waiting list of the Texas National Guard.'"

But in treating the professor, Yoshi Tsurumi as authoritative, Woodruff failed to note his left-wing, Bush-bashing political views. In an article posted earlier this year by the Japanese Institute of Global Communication, which I located via Google, Tsurumi, a professor of International Business at Baruch College, the City University of New York, ranted:
"Something really strange has happened to the U.S. under the Bush Administration. With her ever bulging budget deficits and foreign debts, America's skewed income distribution is rapidly making the U.S. resemble Argentina or Mexico. The 'Jobless Recovery' is not a political mirage, but a serious problem. America's GDP is increasing at an annual rate of about 4.0% this year. But, only those Wall Street 'money gamers' and self-dealing 'management aristocrats' of Corporate America are dizzy with their huge bonuses, padded salaries, and self-dealt stock options. The remaining hard working Americans cannot eat 'GDP.' The U.S. has widening income gap between a few 'haves' and many 'have-nots.'" For the rest of his rant: www.glocom.org

And the left-wing Air America, the MRC's Ken Shepherd informed me, has used Tsurumi as an expert on Bush. For example, see: s88172659.onlinehome.us

Woodruff opened the September 9 Inside Politics: "Thank you for joining us. Like the swift boat controversy that dogged John Kerry, the flap over President Bush's military service seems to have taken on a life of its own. Just as the Kerry camp pointed a finger on that at the President, White House spokesman Scott McClellan today accused Kerry and his surrogates of coordinating attacks on Bush's record in the Air National Guard. The Kerry camp denies that. The fire is being fueled by new on-the-record statements as well as newly released documents."
"Two questions endure about George W. Bush's service in the Air National Guard. The first is, 'how did he get in?' A Texas politician is talking publicly for the first time about how he pulled strings for Bush."

Interspersed by clips from 60 Minutes, Woodruff outlined how "former Texas House Speaker and Lieutenant Governor Ben Barnes, a Democrat supporting John Kerry, told CBS 60 Minutes he called the head of the Guard in 1968 at the request of a Bush family friend. Bush's father then represented Houston in Congress."

After noting how the Bush himself once declared that "I never asked for, and I don't believe I received any special treatment," Woodruff countered: "The Bush campaign has stuck to that line ever since. But a professor who taught Bush at Harvard Business School in the early '70s has written a letter to his local newspaper [Scarsdale Inquirer, August 27] saying Bush, quote, 'admitted to me that to avoid a Vietnam draft, he had his father's friend skip him through the long waiting list of the Texas National Guard.'"

Without further identifying Tsurumi whose name was on screen, Woodruff then asked: "Which leads to the second lingering question: How did Bush perform in the Guard? Records first obtained by the Associated Press, which sued the Pentagon to get them, show that Bush ranked in the middle of his flight training class in 1969. But Bush was eventually suspended from flying the F-102 in August 1972."

Over an on screen graphic "Source: Jerry Killian Memorandum, Aug. 1, 1972," Woodruff recited: "Newly unearthed documents from the personnel file of a commanding officer reveal Bush not only missed a required physical exam but he 'made no attempt to meet his training certification.' The accusation that he was a no-show for duty has applied mainly to Bush's 1972 transfer to a Guard unit in Alabama, where he worked on the U.S. Senate campaign of a family friend. It is revived in a TV ad to run in several battleground states."
Robert Mintz, National Guard veteran, the guy featured in the Texans for Truth TV ad: "We had a relatively small unit, maybe 20 to 30 pilots there. And -- which I attended the unit drills multiple days per months for a great number of years, including the year 1972. And I never had the privilege of meeting Lieutenant Bush."
Woodruff: "Official records show a five-month gap in his pay for drills. Democrats are pressing the attack."
Senator Tom Harkin: "Americans deserve to know the truth. And we won't know the whole truth until the president himself meets these facts head-on."
Woodruff: "The White House says, if the President broke the rules, he wouldn't have receive and honorable discharge in 1973."
Dan Bartlett, White House Communications Director: "People who are calling themselves experts, who actually have partisan differences, who are supporting President Bush's opponent, who are throwing these allegations, the fact of the matter is President Bush met his obligations."
Woodruff: "And a final note. When Bush was discharged to go to Harvard Business School, he was obligated to serve another year in the Air Force Reserves. But there is no record that he signed up with a selective reserve unit in Boston. Instead, the White House says, Bush registered as an inactive reserve in the Air Force in Denver."





NBC to Promote Kelley's Bush-Bashing,
Same as in '91 with Reagan

As NBC prepares another massive three-day Today sit-down with trashy celebrity biographer Kitty Kelley on Monday to promote her new book, The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty, which, according to several newspaper accounts, claims that George W. Bush used cocaine at Camp David when his father was President, a quick review of how Today has helped her in the past. When her hatchet job on Nancy Reagan came out in April 1991, which claimed she had an affair with Frank Sinatra and that she and Ronald smoked pot, Today also gave her three days, and her interviewer, Bryant Gumbel, began: "Best-selling author Kitty Kelley has proven both her courage and her credibility..." Newsweek and the New York Times also loved her as Newsweek's Jonathan Alter touted: "If even a small fraction of the material amassed and borrowed here turns out to be true, Ronald Reagan and his wife had to be the most hypocritical people ever to live in the White House. Anyone who vaguely followed the events of his administration already knew that."

This time, Newsweek is passing on an excerpt after lapping it up in 1991.

[The MRC's Tim Graham submitted this item for CyberAlert]

You might think the media have a responsibility to confirm allegations about public figures before reporting them. But that's not what happened when it came to Kitty Kelley's Nancy Reagan: The Unauthorized Biography. Kelley appeared on April 8, 9, and 10, 1991 to publicize her unauthorized biography of Nancy Reagan. Then-Today co-host Bryant Gumbel offered this puffy introduction: "Best-selling author Kitty Kelley has proven both her courage and her credibility with her no-holds-barred biographies of Frank Sinatra, Elizabeth Taylor, and Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis. Now she's out with her most difficult and explosive book yet. Nancy Reagan: The Unauthorized Biography goes on sale this morning, and already people are running for cover, issuing denials from all around the nation." He asked her: "This book paints a picture of a totally unethical, scheming social climber who lied and faked her way through life. Is that the picture you set out to create?"

NBC demonstrated a preference for sleaze over substance. While Kelley was given three interviews to promote her book, Lou Cannon, a Washington Post reporter and biographer of Ronald Reagan, appeared only once that year for his Reagan book, President Reagan: The Role of a Lifetime.

The other networks weren't much better. CBS reporter Mark Phillips typified the media's smirking abandonment of duty at the end of his April 8, 1991 Evening News report: "So the world, it seems, must know. Did Nancy Reagan really recycle gifts to her own grandchildren? Is the stuff in the book true or just vindictive tales? Who knows? Who cares?"

The press frenzy started when the April 7, 1991 New York Times carried a long front-page story by Maureen Dowd which did not challenge one Kelley claim. Then-reporter Dowd summarized: "Ms. Kelley asserts that Mrs. Reagan will go down in history as the cold and glittering icon for a morally vacuous era. The author says the former First Lady reinvented herself with a tissue of fabrications about her background, age and family, just as her free-spirited mother did before her; that she had her nose fixed and her eyes lifted; that both the Reagans had extramarital affairs, and that Mrs. Reagan had a long-term affair with Frank Sinatra. Ms. Kelley also writes that the Reagans once smoked marijuana provided by Alfred S. Bloomingdale, the department store heir and founder of Diners' Club, at a dinner party in the late 1960s, when Mr. Reagan was Governor of California."

Dowd defended the book in the May 13, 1991 New Republic: "Of course, the book is tawdry. Of course the book is, in some spots, loosely sourced and over the top....Of course, there are mistakes in it...The point, however, is that Kelley's portrait is not essentially untrue." Dowd added: "Nancy Reagan was the epitome of her time, of its pious values and grasping mores; she was den mother to an era of materialistic dementia....[Kelley] might have written more about Mrs. Reagan's positive points: her political shrewdness, her utility as a hatchetwoman for her personable husband, her tempering of his more Neanderthal tendencies."

Newsweek's Jonathan Alter embarrassed himself by twisting himself into a pretzel defending Kelley's professionalism. In the April 22 issue he contended: "In a narrow sense, Kelley is an effective reporter." Later he added: "Despite her wretched excesses, Kelley has the core of the story right," and "however twisted, the bulk of Kelley's stories seem to at least be based on real events." Alter preferred assaulting the Reagans' reputation: "If even a small fraction of the material amassed and borrowed here turns out to be true, Ronald Reagan and his wife had to be the most hypocritical people ever to live in the White House. Anyone who vaguely followed the events of his administration already knew that. But millions of others still don't. While Kitty Kelley's sensationalism may undermine their ability to find and believe the truth, her popularity may encourage them to explore more of the real history of that era without her."

Eleanor Clift also contributed her two cents in the April 15 issue that carried the Kelley excerpt: "If privacy ends where hypocrisy begins, Kitty Kelley's steamy expose of Nancy Reagan is a contribution to contemporary history."

At least this time, Newsweek editor Mark Whitaker is passing up the opportunity to excerpt the book. "We weren't comfortable with a lot of the reporting," he told the Washington Post.

This is not the way NBC treated liberal reporter Seymour Hersh when he wrote the Kennedy-bashing book "The Dark Side of Camelot." In two interviews on November 10 and 11, 1997, Today co-host Matt Lauer pounded Hersh as possibly "blinded by the desire to tell as a sordid tale," and underlined: "Some of your sources in this book have now come out and said you twisted their words. As a matter of fact, one gentleman, Jerry Bruno, a former Kennedy advance man, says after being interviewed by you and reading the final product that you should have called this book the Dark Side of Seymour Hersh." For more on those hardball interviews, see: www.mrc.org

At least Hersh received an invitation. In 1992, Today dropped an invitation to Richard E. Burke, a former Ted Kennedy aide who wrote a book titled The Senator, which claimed that Kennedy used the drugs cocaine and amyl nitrate in nightclubs and had regular sex with interns. Said then-Executive Producer Jeff Zucker: "In reading it over and seeing the way it was being portrayed by tabloid television, it didn't feel right for us."

Apparently, a book alleging cocaine use by Ted Kennedy is a serious charge which requires serious evidence before it makes NBC's air, while a book alleging cocaine use by George W. Bush at Camp David is fantastic grist for a three-part interview.

To underline his biases, Newsweek's Jonathan Alter also is the thinly disguised author of the magazine's "Conventional Wisdom Watch." Over the Burke book in 1992, Alter gave Senator Kennedy an up arrow and proclaimed: "Trashy bio goes too far." But when Kelley's book came out, Alter sneered about Mrs. Reagan: "No one deserves this, but if anyone does, you do."

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The Winter Soldier Investigation

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*** BREAKING ***
In Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers, Scott Swett tells the story of a former VVAW member and participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation who has now filed an affadavit stating that John Kerry and others pressured him to give false testimony about American atrocities in Vietnam.


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KERRY LIED . . . while good men died

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Yoshi Tsurumi knows a ding-bat when he sees one.................NOW or THIRTY YEARS AGO!


Even though it was over 30 years ago, Tsurumi "vividly" recalls Bush the student making this stunning statement in his classroom at Harvard: "People are poor because they are lazy." Now, this is the same guy who, as President, spent 42 percent of his first eight months in office on vacation at his Crawford, Texas ranch! He has never had a regular job in his entire life, unless you're counting the sinecures that daddy weaseled for him in the energy business and with the Texas Rangers' major league baseball club.


Tsurumi continues reminiscing about this truly unremarkable pupil. He wrote, "Bush was opposed to labor unions, social security, environmental protection, Medicare and public schools. To him, the antitrust watchdog, the Federal Trade Commission, and the Securities Exchange Commission were unnecessary hindrances to 'free market competition.' To him, Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal was 'socialism'..."


Tsurumi made this telling point: "President Bush and his brain, Karl Rove, are leading a radical revolution of destroying all the democratic political, social, judiciary and economic institutions that both Democratics and moderate Republicans have built together since Roosevelt's New Deal."


Tsurumi said, "The US has over 5 million part-time job holders who want full-time jobs but cannot find them. In addition, the US has 8 million persons who have had to settle for full time jobs paying far less than their previous jobs. The 'jobless recovery' and the widening income gaps are aggravated by massive migrations of good-paying manufacturing and service jobs abroad. Such migrations have been accelerated by President Bush's misguided tax cuts... America's skewed income distribution is rapidly making the US resemble Argentina or Mexico.


The 'jobless recovery' is not a political mirage, but a serious problem...The U.S. has a widening income gap between a few 'haves' and many 'have-nots.'"


Tsurumi concludes, "President Bush's tax cuts have given over 93% of their benefits to large corporations and well-to-do households with over $250,000 of annual income (about 10% of the U.S. households). Moreover...they are abolishing taxes on such asset-based income as stock dividends and capital gains. He is opposed to taxing management aristocrats' self-dealt stock options (salary payment in kind). He is opposed to requiring the corporations to treat such stock options as their personnel expenses. More than anything else, management aristocrats' stock options are encouraging many corporations to abandon manufacturing-and-supply procurements at home and switch to imports from China and other lower-wage countries. He is phasing out estate taxes. All of these measures are transforming the past 'potbelly flower vase' shape of the U.S. income distribution to the 'bottom-heavy hourglass' shape."


It's obvious the IQ-challenged Bush just barely got through Yale and Harvard. And, now, thanks to Professor Tsurumi's keen analysis of his reactionary economic ideas, "Bushonomics 101," we know, unless stopped, that they will roll the clock back in this country to the predatory Age of the Robber Barons.
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OMG ! I haven't read anything so outrageously funny in some time my good man!! You surely can't be serious. You have either been getting to much free government cheese or listening to Jimmy Buffet to long....Let's just take one thing that the genius professor sites that President Bush
is doing wrong according to him- He is phasing out estate taxes OK what and the hell is so bad about that Gimpy ?? No more death tax Gimpy why not??
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Just busted another rib laughing...

Vividly...

Reminds meof the memory of that Christmas Eve longpast when John Fonda Kerry and I took an after dinner riverboatexcursion into Cambodia...

complete with candles on deck and a bottle of the best French whine....you know thebrand...

youremove the cork and aGenie pops out andcrys "I surrender"....

railing bedecked withminature red, white and blueChristmas lights....

CIA agentsmerrily unwrapping theirnew cammo gear from the land of the big PX....

Yes....

that evening is
seared, seared I say into me.......


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