Proven Phonies

[reconeil]

Never Believe PROVEN PHONIES
by N.R. Filidei (February 4, 2005)

The only times that: "We The (Schnooks)" and/or America's Private Sector Taxpayer/Worker should believe faux-liberal Democrat Socialist Leaders, are when their mouths aren't moving.
Such being especially so if the subject ever comes up about: "Fixing Social Security".

After all, even if only having little knowledge about typical political deceits, shenanigans, BS or nonsense, it were the Democrat Hypocrits whom in large part BROKE (both ways) The Social Security Fund, in the first place. Thusly, "Their" longtime and perpetually feigning desire to fix same,...just simply cannot be believed.

Besides, how could anyone possible believe ANY BENT perpetually keeping the very best Retirement Package and Medical Care known mankind for themselves and The Public Sector (from Presidents to Sanition Workers),...while purposefully denying such to the overwhelming vast majority and/or The Private Sector Citizenry. "THEY" would never divert any of "THEIR" Pensions or Retirement Benefits TO OTHERS,...even at gunpoint.

Doesn't seem mattering to such Lords that F.I.C.A. was lifelong contributed to EQUALLY (50/50) by both Employers and Employees. Nor, and as ALL OTHER retirement plans in America, neither does Social Security have anything whatsoever to do with Tax Revenues. People mixing-in such monies with TAXES should be jailed,...as in all corporations.

Regardless, here are a few more historical reasons why The American People and/or the vast majority of Private Sector Citizens should: "Never Believe PROVEN PHONIES".

1. President Johnson and Fellow Democrat Devious Mismanagers in charge at the time, TOOK the equally contributed to by Employers and Employees' National Retirement Fund (re. Social Security) In Trust for America's Retirees,...and quite cavalierly, lordly and unilaterally DIVERTED & MISPLACED same monies into The General Fund. From that time on and since just another Tax Revenue, Social Security was then at the mercy of politicians.

Ironically, and what other corporate heads would have done jail time for, that was the time that The Social Security System first started needed: "Fixing". Well, at least to the career Democrat Finnaglers doing the ripping-off, anyway.

2. Some time latter, and since The Social Security Fund had now been diverted succesfully to where greedy politicos could now get their grubby-little-mitts on same,...the quite generous with Americans' Retirement Monies Jimmy Carter, had much better ideas for some of such. He and Democrats in charge lordly decreed that as many foreigners as possible would be gifted much of The American Citizenries' National Retirement Monies.

Whether foreigners arrived here from India, Pakistan, Somalia or wherever and never having PAID A DIME into F.I.C.A., such foreigners would automatically receive all Social Security Monies & Benefits,...just as if they and their employers (from wherever) had paid into such all their lives. Absolutely amazing,...even from a surrealistic political perspective.

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. You should've stuck to peanuts or contruction. If so, America's Legitimate Private Sector Retirees would no doubt be a little better off TODAY.

3. If 1. and 2. weren't bad enough to wake some American Screwees up or make them grit their teeth, more recently another high ranking and quite suspect of intent Democrat Phoney named Al Gore, should also get the hackles-up,...OF VERY MANY.

"He" blew-his-cover and/or REAL Democrat Intent, when casting the deciding vote in The United States Senate. The Republicans and Democrats were equally divided (50/50), as to whether or not the: "Never to be taxed" (as per FDR - 1937) Social Security Monies WOULD BE TAXED?

Thusly, and unfortunately for most all Americans, Gore and the other hypocrites had their way AGAIN. Social Security Payments have since been taxable just as a other incomes,...and screw what the initiator of Social Security and/or FDR wanted and intended.

So then People, how on earth can anyone possibly believe what comes out of most Democrat Leaders' Mouths,...and especially if not obsessed about kinky-sex, masochistic and/or into whips and chains?

The End

Neil

[reconeil]

Couldn't help noticing how well Gimpy's latest: "especially Shameless" thread and/or typically DNC echoing: "Everything Democrat GOOD and everything Republican BAD" NONSENSE (quite the opposite FOR America),...ties in so well with my: "Never Believe PROVEN PHONIES" title.

Still, that The Honorable Veteran Hierarchy of The VFW so foolishly goes along with the perpetual and/or continually never ending Democrat Campaign Ploys for: "Recapturing" or retaining power and control over The American Taxpayer Monies,...is more than a bit sad, at best.
Guess that even some Veteran Organizations have their fair share of politically supremacist and fanatically duplicitous Democrat Political Hacks, also?

Regardless, why don't such ever mention that quite recently The Republican $20 BILLION INCREASE was the single largest INCREASE in history...for VA Funding?

Why don't such ever mention that for about a-half-century of Democrat Control of The VA, and even though quite beaurocratically enlarged over same years,...The VA had actually gotten progressively worse, and especially from a legally adversarial and less Veteran-friendly perspective?

Or, and for that matter and not that long ago, why did such: "PROVEN PHONIES" and/or Democrat Leaders of The Clinton Realm praise themselves so-damn-much for: "Cutting Government by 250,000 (QUARTER MILLION) positions"?

Everyone knows (or at least should know) that such: "Positions" CUT, were actually and solely from The U.S. Military and related and/or all Intelligence Services,...while and as usual the personnel of many civilian beaurocracies increased. Such, no doubt why Republicans had to spend so much money rebuilding the greatly reduced Military and Intelligence Services.

Still, and in fairness to Democrats, such quite dangerous to The American People Savings (plus Internet Bubble not having burst yet),...did undoubtedly have much to do with: "The Balanced Budget", The Democrats are so proud of. Unfortunately, what are usually Good for Democrats and foreigners rarely ever coincide with what are actually Good for The American Citizenry in general, and especially securitywise and financially.

Whatever, only fools cannot or will not take the advice of: "Never Believe PROVEN PHONIES".
Plus, only: "PHONIES" themselves would advise otherwise, since how usually keeping Americans quite divided, politically duped, and thus more manageable and controllable,...EVEN DURING WARTIME.

"EVEN DURING WARTIME"...truly "IS": "especially Shameless",...no matter how many ways the Shameless and Great Rhodes Scholar Bill Clinton interpretted or interprets that word: "IS".

Neil

[SuperScout]

Heard on the radio this afternoon how a liberal call-in said we should continue with Social Security as currently constituted, because it's time-honored, I believe the words he used, rather than examine the current benefit plan in Chile, with earnings averaging >8% per year! "Because we've always done it that way" is the most stultifying, most brain-dead, most idiotic way of viewing any problem of situation. But sadly, that's the Demos mantra, and their collective heads are collectively in rectal defolade thereby preventing them from seeing the eventual trainwreck the Social Security is becoming. Nowhere in actuarial science will any professor expound that a 3:1 ratio can long be self-sustaining, but the 3:1 ratio is exactly where we are today in terms of payees vs. beneficiaries.

As I've indicated elsewhere, if the beneficiary rolls could be purged of all non-citizens, irespective of how much they may have paid into Social Security, a ton of money would be saved. Another option not even thought about is to provide all current workers with a choice: permanently forego and forfeit all claims for benefits, if allowed to formulate their own retirement and disability protection plan, less 2% that would continue to flow to SS. And it would have to flow into a SS Trust account, untouchable by Congress FOR ANY PURPOSE. They've robbed us before, and given half a chance, will rob us continually.

[Gimpy]

Originally posted by reconeil Couldn't help noticing how well Gimpy's latest: "especially Shameless" thread

Still, that The Honorable Veteran Hierarchy of The VFW so foolishly goes along with the perpetual and/or continually never ending Democrat Campaign Ploys for: "Recapturing" or retaining power and control over The American Taxpayer Monies,...is more than a bit sad, at best.

Guess that even some Veteran Organizations have their fair share of politically supremacist and fanatically duplicitous Democrat Political Hacks, also?

Regardless, why don't such ever mention that quite recently The Republican $20 BILLION INCREASE was the single largest INCREASE in history...for VA Funding?

(Well it damn well should have been!.............But it STILL isn't enough to "keep up"......see below...GIMP)


Democrat Leaders of The Clinton Realm praise themselves so-damn-much for: "Cutting Government by 250,000 (QUARTER MILLION) positions"?

Everyone knows (or at least should know) that such: "Positions" CUT, were actually and solely from The U.S. Military and related and/or all Intelligence Services,...while and as usual the personnel of many civilian beaurocracies increased. Such, no doubt why Republicans had to spend so much money rebuilding the greatly reduced Military and Intelligence Services.



Neil

Neil, you REALLY don't know what-the-hell you're talkin about, ya know!

Let me "educate" you once again my friend.


Early in 1991, Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney unveiled a plan to reduce military strength by the mid-1990s to 1.6 million, compared to 2.2 million when he entered office.

In his budget proposal for FY 1993, his last one, Cheney asked for termination of the B-2 program at 20 aircraft, cancellation of the Midgetman, and limitations on advanced cruise missile purchases to those already authorized.

When introducing this budget, Cheney complained that Congress had directed Defense to buy weapons it did not want, including the V-22, M-1 tanks, and F-14 and F-16 aircraft, and required it to maintain some unneeded reserve forces. His plan outlined about $50 billion less in budget authority (a larger cut to military spending than ANYTHING John Kerry was accused of btw) over the next 5 years than the first Bush administration had proposed in 1991.


Over Cheney's four years as secretary of defense, encompassing budgets for fiscal years 1990-93, DoD's total obligational authority in current dollars declined from $291.3 billion to $269.9 billion. Except for FY 1991, when the TOA budget increased by 1.7 percent, the Cheney budgets showed negative real growth: -2.9 percent in 1990, -9.8 percent in 1992, and -8.1 percent in 1993.


During this same period total military personnel declined by 19.4 percent, from 2.202 million in FY 1989 to 1.776 million in FY 1993. The Army took the largest cut, from 770,000 to 572,000-25.8 percent of its strength. The Air Force declined by 22.3 percent, the Navy by 14 percent, and the Marines by 9.7 percent.

That's where the "reduction" you're hollerin about came from!


Don't believe me............Look it up, it's in the Congressional Record!


None of this is new, Republicans have been attacking the budgets for veterans especially since at least the 1980s.

President Ronald Reagan issued a proposal to cut 20,000 medical personnel in the VA and proposed to scrap a counseling program for veterans, during the middle of a surge of Vietnam veterans suicide attempts.

He was also the only president that failed to give disabled veterans a yearly percentage increase in their disability compensation during the 1980s'.

The first President Bush cancelled burial benefits for veterans and cut $600 million from the VA during his term in office.


Last year (2004) Bush proposed the lowest appropriation request for Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) health care made by any Administration in over a decade. The VA Under Secretary for Health testified last year that it requires an average yearly medical care increase of 12% to 14% to meet the cost of inflation and mandated salary increases. However, the Bush budget was only 1.2% more than the last years appropriation.

As for the VA "getting progressively worse" under Clinton and the Democrats??

NOT!

In 1997 the Clnton administration instituted new Department of Veterans Affairs sweeping organizational changes to improve quality measurement techniques , improve the quality of patient care, physician involvement within a primary-care team, out-patient clinic concept that has produced dramatic improvements within the Veterans Health Administration.


The Veterans Millennium Healthcare and Benefits Act, which President Clinton signed into law in 1999 required the VA to maintain its "in-house" long-term care programs, and required it to keep nursing-home capacity at the 1998 baseline level of 13,391 Average Daily Census (ADC) to keep up with the growing demand.


The Bush White House and the conservative Republican-dominated Congress have ignored the 1999 law?despite the explosion in the number of veterans age 85 and older that will reach 2 million by the year 2010.

The VA itself recognizes that at least 17,000 more nursing home beds are needed for the care of elderly veterans . Yet, the Bush Fiscal Year 2004 budget projected the VA nursing home Daily Census to drop to 8,500.???? The FY 2005 VA budget called for slashing another 5,000 nursing beds , lowering Daily Census projections even more.???


What have the republicans done that is so bad? The republicans have had partial or total control of the federal government since 1994, holding the House of Representatives the entire time, the Senate all but a year and a half and the White House since 2001.


During most of this time, the federal government had huge budget surpluses (on paper). This means that they could've easily gotten any programs to help veterans and soldiers passed. They could've increased funding for veteran's programs and they could've improved the quality of life for active soldiers who are in harm's way. Have they done so? Clearly not.

This republican Congress passed a law in 1996 to allow all eligible veterans the right to VA medical care. That law led to a 134% increase in enrollment of veterans in the VA system between 1996-2003?from 2.9 million to 6.8 million enrollees.

But the republican led Congress refused to increase funding for patient care, leading to a continual drop in staff and beds, and ability to handle the increased workload. And George Bush is continuing to refuse to adequately fund the programs critical to the needs of veterans to this day. He and the republicans in Congress are a disgrace to this nation and anyone who can't see that is simply BLIND to the facts!


As for "Social Security"..............you don't want to go there with me my friend!

[reconeil]

Yeah, sure Oh Profound One.
All Career "Republican Bashers" and/or The Democrats are Wonderful People, and all mean-spirited Republicans ARE NASTY & BAD,...and there really is: "A Tooth Fairy".

Have a nice day.

Neil

[Gimpy]

That's NOT what I said! :re:

But, the facts as presented above are irrefutable.

I don't see you or anyone else offering any factual evidence to the contrary???

Have a nice evening!

[reconeil]

Granted, the facts you mentioned about THE NINETEEN NINETIES were: "Irrefutable".

However, what apparently you cannot seem to grasp is that whomever The Secretary of Defense was in THE NINETEES, such was doing as directed and/or Taking Orders from most the glorious and the most brave and courageous of Commanders-In-Chief ,.....called: "Slick Willy" and/or BILL CLINTON.

So then, and to historically simplify things for you.

1. The Democrats and Clinton decimated The U.S. Military and U.S. Intelligence Agencies for EIGHT YEARS.

2. Afterwards, The Republicans and Bush were then tasked with rebuilding The U.S. Military and Intelligence Agencies,...which unfortunately was made even more difficult than usual due: "9/11" and The War Declared on America by Islamic Terrorists, and The Liberation of Iraq.

Such was one-helluva-time TO NEED rebuilding The U.S. Military and U.S. Intelligence Agencies. Don't you think?

Neil

[Gimpy]

For Gods' sake man, you REALLY aren't that ignorant and/or misinformed are you??

Did you even READ what I posted?

Are you so blinded by your hate and bias towards democrats that you can't see the F-A-C-T-S even when presented to you so effectively??

DICK CHENEY was the Secretary of Defense during the FIRST Bush administration (daddy Bush!). From 1989 thru 1993 and responsible for the Defense Budgets during that time. And I quote my previous post "Except for FY 1991, when the TOA budget increased by 1.7 percent, the Cheney budgets showed negative real growth: -2.9 percent in 1990, -9.8 percent in 1992, and -8.1 percent in 1993. " Are you BLIND!

I've posted the UN-deniable evidence that PROVES my point!

What the hell is the matter with you "SUPER-Neo-Con" types, can't you even READ for gosh sakes!

The "military" needed "rebuilding" because Cheney and daddy Bush cut it to the virtual BONE. Not.....repeat NOT...........because of anything Clinton did!

And one more thing, since YOU say that baby Bush & Cheney did such a wonderful job of "rebuilding" our military!

Talk is cheap, and Presnit Double-Talk is a veritable Wal-Mart of empty lip service to our valiant military. It's a real shame all of that pious love for our troops and our veterans Bush and his neocon scoundrels profess doesn't travel any further than the hot air escaping from their mouths.

In the year-long run up to the Iraq War they couldn't be bothered to make sure all of the vehicles our soldiers would be using in combat and convoy duty were fully armored (of which only one-third were), and that adequate body armor was supplied to our all our troops; now, they're trying to cheat the returning vets who were wounded or disabled because of Rumsfeld's incompetence out of their rightful benefits, as well as those who fought bravely in WWII, Korea, Vietnam and other conflicts of the 20th century.

This criminal neglect and rank hypocrisy is beyond contempt , and any honest conservative should be outraged by it. It's incredible to me that anyone in the service, past or present, would continue to support Bush and his Administration after this proposed gouging.


How can you look yourselves in the mirror ??

[reconeil]

Let's try and make it even simpler,...specifically for you.

If: "Papa Bush" in 4 years didn't handle The U.S. Military and U.S. Intelligence Agencies up to your MUCH HIGHER DEMOCRAT STANDARDS (just jokin folks ),...why didn't America's Greatest of all Civilian Warlords: "Slick Willy" (AKA: Bill Clinton) and clique FOR 8 YEARS rectify matters, and INSTEAD FOR 8 YEARS manage to decimate The U.S. Military and U.S. Intelligence Agencies, as more so foreigner or UN preferred?

"Lover-Boy" giving safe passage to Old Osama and gang and dismissing THE FIRST Trade Center Bombing & Bombers as if trivia,...would also be other reasonable questions that need asking, especially since occurring over that specific LENGTHY PERIOD OF TIME and/or during Glorious Clinton Officialdom?

Yeah, I know Gimpy. "We ALL gotsta-get-together" and bipartisanly and politically-correctly ALL think as Democrats or ACLU types,...while hypocritically bashing everything Bush and/or Republican which might actually fix things.
Didn't think I knew how the recent LOOSERS and/or ACLU types always define bipartisanship when needed,...did you Gimpy?

Neil

[Gimpy]

Originally posted by reconeil Let's try and make it even simpler,...specifically for you.

If: "Papa Bush" in 4 years didn't handle The U.S. Military and U.S. Intelligence Agencies up to your MUCH HIGHER DEMOCRAT STANDARDS (just jokin folks ),...why didn't America's Greatest of all Civilian Warlords: "Slick Willy" (AKA: Bill Clinton) and clique FOR 8 YEARS rectify matters, and INSTEAD FOR 8 YEARS manage to decimate The U.S. Military and U.S. Intelligence Agencies, as more so foreigner or UN preferred?

That's TWO questions Neil. And, BTW.........you STILL haven't answered MY charges about Cheney & Daddy Bush yet, have you???


First part .....why didn't America's Greatest of all Civilian Warlords Slick Willy" (AKA: Bill Clinton) and clique FOR 8 YEARS rectify matters

Answer.............He couldn't, because the republican led Congress was not inclined or attempting to increase military spending because of the so-called "peace-dividend" started during Daddy Bushs' and Dick Cheneys' previous round of "cuts" to military spending!

2nd part ,........."and INSTEAD FOR 8 YEARS manage to decimate The U.S. Military and U.S. Intelligence Agencies, as more so foreigner or UN preferred?"

Answer................As previously stated, he DIDN"T........Daddy Bush & Dick (head) Cheney are the culprits who committed these "decimations" of our military and Intelligence Agencies. Can't you READ!


"Lover-Boy" giving safe passage to Old Osama and gang and dismissing THE FIRST Trade Center Bombing & Bombers as if trivia,...would also be other reasonable questions that need asking, especially since occurring over that specific LENGTHY PERIOD OF TIME and/or during Glorious Clinton Officialdom?

Yeah, I know Gimpy. "We ALL gotsta-get-together" and bipartisanly and politically-correctly ALL think as Democrats or ACLU types,...while hypocritically bashing everything Bush and/or Republican which might actually fix things.

Didn't think I knew how the recent LOOSERS and/or ACLU types always define bipartisanship when needed,...did you Gimpy?

Neil

Do I need to DRAW YOU A PICTURE instead of using the English language as means of continuing your understanding of this period of history?

Let me know how I may be able to further your continued improvements of cognizant, educational development in order to amplfy and enhance the quality of your apparent imprecise and incapable ability of comprehension. Surely you can't be this unaware, can you?