Farmboy

[DMZ-LT]

In your bio here you say you served in the Army from 66 to 70 and your a combat vet that served in the SF. Friend of mine that did 4 tours in Vietnam , with SF , says that in order to serve with SF in Vietnam from 66 to 70 you had to be an E-5 and on your second enlistment. I believe him. How did you get in SF on one enlistment ?

[hardeodcafe]

DMZ_LT,

I guess the Green Beret with Badge as Farmboys Avatar is actually the Green Beret, Beret?

I have worked extensively with American EOD Techs, one in particular became a great friend of mine, he was a Naval Clearance Diver, I believe seconded to the SEALS, not entirely sure of that but he mentioned something along those lines. He did 2 Tours of Vietnam as a very young Naval Rating, I think his second tour may well have been an EOD tour but he would certainly know the ins and outs of who was able to do what and when back then... but then I expect there are many Vietnam Vets right here in the Patriot Files?!

Our SF is a bit different to your own, we only really have two groups we class as Special Forces, the SAS & the SBS (SAS recruits from the Army and SBS the Navy, although primarily Royal Marines) who carry out the same initial selection before going their separate ways for onward training. Both are filled with members who have first volunteered or been recommended to go for Selection, usually the pass rate of selection leading to a recruit being 'Badged' SAS or SBS is only around 4% of the volunteers, considering all volunteers consider themselves way above average fitness and military level than their counterparts then the mind boggles as to the tiny pass rate...

We now also have what is called the Special Forces Support Group, comprising elements of shock troops suc as the Paras and other specialist units but they are NOT SF...

[WateringHole]

I recall when I was at Benning in the early 60s, you had to be on your second enlistment to apply for Special Forces Training. Reason why I know that is because many recruits after finishing jump school attempted to apply for SF and was all told the same answer....and that's "you have to be on your second hitch to apply."
Spoke to many jump school recruits at the beer hall while sucking-up on that 3.2.
I was a grease monkey assigned to the 95th evac hosp

[farmboy]

Your friend is mistaken. Or full of crap.
Seals are Navy guys.
"US Army Special Forces" is the only group with the that actual name.
All the new high speed guys come under the SOCOM umbrella. People call them SF, but that is incorrect.
I graduated SFTG in 1967 as a PFC. I was one of the early "SF Babies."
I was selected for SF training while in Airborne Infantry AIT at Ft Gordon.
They picked 3 of us out of 2 companies.
I was also fortunate to be selected Distinguished Honor Graduate 45th Company at jump school.
All pretty routine after that.
My SFA # is D5216.
You guys are jumping to some serious conclusions with zero points of personal reference.
I'll expect some updates.

Now go out and play sweetheart. Maybe your buddy will show you the secret handshake.

[hardeodcafe]

Sounds very similar to our SF Farmboy, we usually have to be recommended by our Seniors or noticed by serving SF members on Ops etc. but of course there is the numbers of volunteers who decide themselves they are fit and ready enough, nowadays there is even a Pre-Selection course for volunteers not in Infantry Units to get up to speed on their soldiering skills prior to going on a 3 day pre-pre selection and then onto main selection itself. It isn't uncommon for people to try again 1 or 2 times if they fail the first time.

[Gimpy]

Originally Posted by farmboy

Your friend is mistaken. Or full of crap.
Seals are Navy guys.
"US Army Special Forces" is the only group with the that actual name.
All the new high speed guys come under the SOCOM umbrella. People call them SF, but that is incorrect.
I graduated SFTG in 1967 as a PFC. I was one of the early "SF Babies."
I was selected for SF training while in Airborne Infantry AIT at Ft Gordon.
They picked 3 of us out of 2 companies.
I was also fortunate to be selected Distinguished Honor Graduate 45th Company at jump school.
All pretty routine after that.
My SFA # is D5216.
You guys are jumping to some serious conclusions with zero points of personal reference.
I'll expect some updates.

Now go out and play sweetheart. Maybe your buddy will show you the secret handshake.

One thing is for CERTAIN---------You stated that you were "selected for SF training while in Airborne Infantry AIT at Ft Gordon"----?

Either you're a bald faced liar----Or, you don't have a freakin clue about WHERE you supposed were trained for "Airborne".

I was assigned to the Army Hospital at Ft. Gordon from late 1967 thru May of 1969 while recovering from several gun shot wounds I received in Nam. I was there for nearly 18 months and saw just about every inch of Ft. Gordon while I was there.

There was NO SUCH THING as an " Airborne Infantry AIT at Ft Gordon" while I was there, and I have yet to find ANYONE who has been trained in "Airborne Infantry AIT" while at Ft. Gordon.

So then, who are you trying to B-ll$hit about this, huh?

There WAS an "AIT" Infantry training center there during that time, but it had nothing to do with being "Airborne"!

Like I said-------you got lots to 'explain' to us before you can honestly expect any of us to believe you're "authentic" as our Brother Sid!

[WateringHole]

During the 60s, the only jump school I knew of was at Ft Benning. I've done a google search and cannot find anything that claims there was "ever" any jump school at Ft Gordon. It's been known for many, many years for it's signal corp training. There was mention of a couple military intelligence companies on base, and basic training from time to time, but no jump school.

In simple lamon terminology, this character "farmboy" is about as phony as a three dollar bill.

[SuperScout]

After reading through this thread, the idea dawned on me that maybe this is little ronnie just trying to reincarnate himself. Personally, I think little ronnie is more in need of some serious counseling and maybe even more serious medication.

[SEATJERKER]

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...Ran a google on the #, and a thread came up from military photos.net, and it was bya handle "FERGUSON", 140 posts, n pic's, bio comes up "just a farmboyin the midwest', so I'll pass it along, and see what happens,...

...says he was with the 6Th group there though,????,...

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[catman]

I have looked over your profile and it states that you held an MOS of 11B4S, is that correct? By your post above you went thru SFQ and graduated as a PFC. So you were promoted from E-3 to E-7 in just 3 years?

Do you by chance happen to live in the Houston area?

Trav