How John Kerry Helped Hanoi Jane During JFK's Vietnam War! Kerry Call Viet Vets' "Baby killers" JFK - His Hero - Started The War!

"Richard Rongstad" wrote in message
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> Sunny wrote:
> >
> > "C.V. Compton Shaw" wrote in message
> > news:4011CDBE.C32D9ED5@swbell.net...
> > > Senator John Kerry, because of his Vietnam anti-war activities as
> > > described in the original post, is "Number 10" in my opinion (which
means
> > > in Vietnam War Jargon that he the worst type of person.)
> > > Mr. C.V. Compton Shaw;U.S. Army;4th Inf. Div.;2/8th Inf.;RVN 1969-1970
> >
> > If you really upset a Vietnamese it came out as ......
> > you....you...you.... no bloody number :-)
> > (usually accompanied by stamping of feet)
>
> You numbah ten thou...
>
> You got ration card G.I.?
>
> Buy me hair spray? Buy me whikky?

uc da loi = cheap charlie

"FatmanE" wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: How John Kerry Helped Hanoi Jane During JFK's Vietnam War!
> >Kerry Call Viet Vets' "Baby killers" JFK -
> >From: dastard@my-deja.com (Ellis Dees)
> >Date: 1/23/2004 8:53 AM Central Standard Time
> >Message-id: <15f31141.0401230653.5094ba25@posting.google.com>
> >
> >Kennedy was planning to pull all US troops out of Vietnam before he
> >was killed:
> >
> >http://www.bostonreview.net/BR28.5/galbraith.html
> >
> >
>
> I suggest that you make a good study of NSAM 263

Ah, Thing One. I just luuuuuuv it when he comes out.

Rita


and the McNamara Taylor report
> that goes with it before you make such a bold statement.
>
> I thought you might be interested in this from Galbraith.
>
> From: Ted Gittinger (tgittingerbounce@austin.rr.com)Subject: JFK and
Vietnam
>
> View this article only
> Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfkDate: 2004-01-06 1506 PST
>
> Here is Jamie Galbreath's rejoinder. Your case is weakening, Aguilar.
> Dissolving, almost.
> __________________________________________________ ______
> Next there is the speculative question, what would JFK have done
> had he not been killed? I do not know. Nor does anyone else. I am
> prepared to believe -- since Kennedy himself raises the possibility on
> tape -- that the withdrawal might have taken longer than the plan. Much
> can happen, and much did, in two years' time. The point of my article is
only
> to establish that there was a "decision" in the precise sense of that
term. The
> policy of the United States on October 5, 1963 was to complete a
withdrawal of
> the training mission from Vietnam by the end of 1965, whether "victory" --
a
> most nebulous term in this context -- had been achieved or not.
>
> Finally, I agree with David Kaiser that Vietnam was a secondary
> issue in late 1963. The importance of the decision to withdraw lies first
in
> the fact that, had it been implemented, then the later tragedy would not
have
> occurred. Second, it helps historians better to understand Kennedy's
larger
> strategic purposes. And, it is a useful case study in the difficulty of
> establishing the exact contours of history when a contrary view is very
firmly
> entrenched.
>
> James Galbraith
> University of Texas
>
>
>
>

"Admin" wrote in message
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> "Lone Haranguer" wrote in message
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> > Thom wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:02:46 GMT, Richard Rongstad
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>"unknown" the lumpenproletariat tool of the politburo wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>>>>.
> > >>>
> > >>>Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
> > >>>his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
> > >
> > >
> > > Nope, big lie just like WOMD. Ike and Nixon started the Viet Nam War
> > > in the 50's. I suggest you check your bible and see how naughty you
> > > are for lieing.
> >
> > Advisers were already there under Truman and we were helping the French.
> > Dummy.
>
> I wonder if it is prudent to remind everyone about the South East Aisian
> Treaty Organization that the US was signatory to. Australia was on it as
> well, so was Korea, and many others. You will find that many of us served
> side by side regardless of Nationality. SEATO was what got us in there
and
> that was done under Truman. SEATO was directly equivelant to NATO for the
> exact same reasons. SEATO is no more these days. Stalin won that round.

The SEATO treaty was signed in the summer of 1954, more than a year and a
half after Truman left office. It was created by the State Department under
Secretary John Foster Dulles.

SEATO was not "directly equivalent to NATO." NATO included automatic
trip-wire clauses that guaranteed that the signatories would go to war if
any of the signatories were attacked. SEATO lacked such language.

Stalin? Stalin died in 1953. I doubt that he had a hand in the game.

ted

"Ted Gittinger" wrote in message
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>
> "Admin" wrote in message
> news:1012mk9kd42gr25@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Lone Haranguer" wrote in message
> > news:burh8i$ldrev$1@ID-192430.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Thom wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:02:46 GMT, Richard Rongstad
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>"unknown" the lumpenproletariat tool of the politburo wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning
over
> > > >>>his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nope, big lie just like WOMD. Ike and Nixon started the Viet Nam
War
> > > > in the 50's. I suggest you check your bible and see how naughty you
> > > > are for lieing.
> > >
> > > Advisers were already there under Truman and we were helping the
French.
> > > Dummy.
> >
> > I wonder if it is prudent to remind everyone about the South East Aisian
> > Treaty Organization that the US was signatory to. Australia was on it
as
> > well, so was Korea, and many others. You will find that many of us
served
> > side by side regardless of Nationality. SEATO was what got us in there
> and
> > that was done under Truman. SEATO was directly equivelant to NATO for
the
> > exact same reasons. SEATO is no more these days. Stalin won that
round.
>
> The SEATO treaty was signed in the summer of 1954, more than a year and a
> half after Truman left office. It was created by the State Department
under
> Secretary John Foster Dulles.

It was in the works right after WWII and was "Signed" in 1954.


>
> SEATO was not "directly equivalent to NATO." NATO included automatic
> trip-wire clauses that guaranteed that the signatories would go to war if
> any of the signatories were attacked. SEATO lacked such language.

YEs, it did lack the language. But it was what originally got the US to
start sending "Advisors".


>
> Stalin? Stalin died in 1953. I doubt that he had a hand in the game.

The Government of the USSR was actually Stalin/Lenin/Marx Communism. And it
stayed that way until the fall.

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:09:15 GMT, "Ted Gittinger"
wrote:

>
>"Admin" wrote in message
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>>
>> "Lone Haranguer" wrote in message
>> news:burh8i$ldrev$1@ID-192430.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> > Thom wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:02:46 GMT, Richard Rongstad
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>"unknown" the lumpenproletariat tool of the politburo wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>>>>>.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
>> > >>>his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Nope, big lie just like WOMD. Ike and Nixon started the Viet Nam War
>> > > in the 50's. I suggest you check your bible and see how naughty you
>> > > are for lieing.
>> >
>> > Advisers were already there under Truman and we were helping the French.
>> > Dummy.
>>
>> I wonder if it is prudent to remind everyone about the South East Aisian
>> Treaty Organization that the US was signatory to. Australia was on it as
>> well, so was Korea, and many others. You will find that many of us served
>> side by side regardless of Nationality. SEATO was what got us in there
>and
>> that was done under Truman. SEATO was directly equivelant to NATO for the
>> exact same reasons. SEATO is no more these days. Stalin won that round.
>
>The SEATO treaty was signed in the summer of 1954, more than a year and a
>half after Truman left office. It was created by the State Department under
>Secretary John Foster Dulles.
>
>SEATO was not "directly equivalent to NATO." NATO included automatic
>trip-wire clauses that guaranteed that the signatories would go to war if
>any of the signatories were attacked. SEATO lacked such language.
>
>Stalin? Stalin died in 1953. I doubt that he had a hand in the game.

shouldn't have said that. The republicans still think he'se hiding
under their beds.

THOM
>
>ted
>
>

Thom wrote:
>
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:09:15 GMT, "Ted Gittinger"
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Admin" wrote in message
> >news:1012mk9kd42gr25@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "Lone Haranguer" wrote in message
> >> news:burh8i$ldrev$1@ID-192430.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >> > Thom wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:02:46 GMT, Richard Rongstad
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>"unknown" the lumpenproletariat tool of the politburo wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>>>>>.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
> >> > >>>his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Nope, big lie just like WOMD. Ike and Nixon started the Viet Nam War
> >> > > in the 50's. I suggest you check your bible and see how naughty you
> >> > > are for lieing.
> >> >
> >> > Advisers were already there under Truman and we were helping the French.
> >> > Dummy.
> >>
> >> I wonder if it is prudent to remind everyone about the South East Aisian
> >> Treaty Organization that the US was signatory to. Australia was on it as
> >> well, so was Korea, and many others. You will find that many of us served
> >> side by side regardless of Nationality. SEATO was what got us in there
> >and
> >> that was done under Truman. SEATO was directly equivelant to NATO for the
> >> exact same reasons. SEATO is no more these days. Stalin won that round.
> >
> >The SEATO treaty was signed in the summer of 1954, more than a year and a
> >half after Truman left office. It was created by the State Department under
> >Secretary John Foster Dulles.
> >
> >SEATO was not "directly equivalent to NATO." NATO included automatic
> >trip-wire clauses that guaranteed that the signatories would go to war if
> >any of the signatories were attacked. SEATO lacked such language.
> >
> >Stalin? Stalin died in 1953. I doubt that he had a hand in the game.
>
> shouldn't have said that. The republicans still think he'se hiding
> under their beds.

You forgot to mention Thom, that Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Lenin
have taken up residence in the closets of Democratic Party
members.


> THOM
> >
> >ted
> >
> >

"Thom" wrote in message
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> It appears that Powell covered Mai Lai up but wasn't there.

How does that appear?

There has never been any evidence that Colin Powell was aware of what
happened in My Lai prior to the Army beginning it's investigation. Perhaps
you can name a source for this particular allegation.

Nigel Brooks

"Thom" wrote in message
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> It appears that Powell covered Mai Lai up but wasn't there.

How does that appear?

There has never been any evidence that Colin Powell was aware of what
happened in My Lai prior to the Army beginning it's investigation. Perhaps
you can name a source for this particular allegation.

Nigel Brooks

>Subject: Re: How John Kerry Helped Hanoi Jane During JFK's Vietnam War!
>Kerry Call Viet Vets' "Baby killers" JFK - H
>From: "Nigel Brooks²°°4©" nbrooks@msn.com
>Date: 1/29/2004 8:12 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id:
>
>"Thom" wrote in message
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>
>> It appears that Powell covered Mai Lai up but wasn't there.

>
>How does that appear?
>
>There has never been any evidence that Colin Powell was aware of
>what happened in My Lai prior to the Army beginning it's investigation.
>Perhaps you can name a source for this particular allegation.
>
>Nigel Brooks
>
>

Save your breath Nigel. This is the same peckerhead that told me I'd smoked
too much dope while dodging the Vietnam War. He went on to tell me William
Duiker was a right wing fanatic so Thom couldn't believe Ho was a commie in
1920 just because Duiker says so.

Steve Denney blast Thom's ass over it.

Thom is probably as goofy as our friend A. Marsh but not as much fun.

Bill Clarke

>Subject: Re: How John Kerry Helped Hanoi Jane During JFK's Vietnam War!
>Kerry Call Viet Vets' "Baby killers" JFK - H
>From: "Nigel Brooks²°°4©" nbrooks@msn.com
>Date: 1/29/2004 8:12 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id:
>
>"Thom" wrote in message
>news:40184c6f.9323589@news.melbpc.org.au...
>
>> It appears that Powell covered Mai Lai up but wasn't there.

>
>How does that appear?
>
>There has never been any evidence that Colin Powell was aware of
>what happened in My Lai prior to the Army beginning it's investigation.
>Perhaps you can name a source for this particular allegation.
>
>Nigel Brooks
>
>

Save your breath Nigel. This is the same peckerhead that told me I'd smoked
too much dope while dodging the Vietnam War. He went on to tell me William
Duiker was a right wing fanatic so Thom couldn't believe Ho was a commie in
1920 just because Duiker says so.

Steve Denney blast Thom's ass over it.

Thom is probably as goofy as our friend A. Marsh but not as much fun.

Bill Clarke