Attention! reconeil..

[skeeter]

I will direct this thread to you, sir.

I have taken note of the number of times you have made posts and replies to others. There is always those few words in every post that intrigue me. quote: french, german, russian, un, aclu, american democrat/liberal, socialists, etc. unquote.

I will just select the term. liberal as my topic. From my guess, I would assume you don't care or even hate liberals, or anyone that may be even connected with such..

Do you go to church? You do !!, great!. When you walk into the house of worship there is a good chance you will see a statue, picture of the Jesus Christ. Did you know he could be the original "liberal" person. Oh yes!.. he believed in being generous, ample, abundant, broad-minded, favored reforms, wanted progress for all people, just like the liberals here in modern times have done, that inacted into law such as "social security, job security laws, unemployment compensation, housing for the poor, interstate highway programs, and many others just to name a few that we americans have benefited from and enjoyed.."

He had his "haters", and if the term "conservatives" could be used back then, they would be the ones that crucified him for his views.
Now that I have established the true meaning of a liberal. So when you attend church, and get down on your knees and bow and pray, and look up at Jesus Christ. Think now!. You are bowing and praying to a liberal that had the same views as the liberals today.

You say, you may drop from going to church now that I have pointed out some worthy (misinforming) notes.

"misinforming" is one of your favorite, isn't it?

[Seascamp]

Oh my, oh my, yikes!!!! What hath gaud wrought now? Liberalism is next to Jesusizm! Ya got to be jerking a funny chain Capt?n Skeeter, I think not. Today?s Liberalism is diametrically opposed to the concept of human spirituality in about everyway imaginable, plus some. Ha, last Sunday our preacher man; who fancies himself as a ?Minnesota Democrat?, leveled an all gun salvo at Sen. Kerry and his Liberal duplicity that is allegedly shredding moral values in the US. I mean this was a stirring delivery from the pulpit, yut ta hey, and I think I?ll stand clear of church call for a while or at least until this political season is over. I don?t need Kerry and his BS on my plate for church call, nope. And I might add that this particular denomination is Christian, very well known, moderate, and has got the bucks and influence to back up their denunciation of Kerry and do it on a National scale.

Big surprise move for this usually politically quiet denomination and someone(s) isn?t buying into your Jesus Christ=Liberal analogy and is on a roll, big time.

Scamp

[catman]

Skeeter...you must be new! But thanks, have not laughed that hard in years!!!


Trav

[skeeter]

The post was directed to reconeil, but you can snipe in.

So with your views of Christanity, I feel you think Jesus didn't meet the profile as a person showing love, kindness, understanding, generous, and helping others in need.
Would that same profile compare with Liberals? Who by the way, has done more for this country than any conservative ever thought of doing.
In my years working in the private sector, I worked for a man (President of the Company) who was worth something like 90 million. He was a fine man to work for, enjoyed his visits in my office, as he always wanted me to tell ever detail about my Navy career. He wanted to be a pilot, but his eye sight was poor and that took care of that. He also was the most conservative person I knew(maybe not now), as his idea of a salary was $1.00 hr. wage. And this was as late as 1990. He drove the latest most expensive automobile, but yet he wore suits and sport coats and ties that were 1940-50 style. He didn't want to pay any taxes, nor want any bond projects let to improve the city sewers, streets, and build any new schools, or any other matters that would costs of monies. Would you like to guess his Party affication.? Just like you..
The man hated liberals(or what he thought they were)because the democrats wanted to improve, not reduce.
He was pleased to drive down a four-lane interstate, praised the
Medicare system, overjoyed with a new hospital, as his Mother-in-law went into, and received her excellent care due to the great laws passed by liberals(democrats) and didn't have to pay one dine due to medicare laws.

Now you stand on your side of the aisle complaining about high taxes, poor health care, any any other appropriations to better life in american, as they may cost money, but yet you be the first to complain when you want it and it's not there.

Now you know why Jesus Christ was so near being a liberal.

[catman]

Skeeter...I will try to explain my position. I am neither liberal or conservative. I hate all extremest. There are few things I am truly passionate about, but those that I am, I will defend to my death.

To link our Lord with your political aims is down right criminal. Believe what you want, think what you want, do what you want, just stop beating everyone over the head with your believes.

Besides, if you and Jesus are so much the same, why are you seeking out individuals to start a fight, never recall Jesus doing that.

Trav

[SuperScout]

Wonder if this thought ever crossed the "Jesus Was [they can't even acknowledge that He is alive today] a Liberal" minds:

liberals espouse partial birth abortions as one of their religious rites. I wonder - no I doubt - that Jesus would condone the barbaric procedure of partially removing a baby from the birth canal, inserting a sharp surgical instrument below the occipital bone [at the base of the head, for those in Rio Linda], then inserting a vacuum device that extracts the brains of the baby. After the brains have been sucked out of this baby, the lifeless baby is removed and discarded. WWJD?

And kindly remember folks, that John F. Kerry was one of the few senators who voted against this bill to prohibit partial birth abortions.

[reconeil]

Thanks again for displaying the quite asinine qualities that many of the french, german, russian, UN, ACLU and likeminded American dem/lib/socialist leaders so often display. You expose to people the deceit and/or self/clique-serving nonsense ABOVE ALL ELSE of such leftist fools,...much better than I or ANYONE ever could.

On that: "Hate" bit, I don't hate anyone other than those I perceive to be a threat to me and mine and America. Though, and since many of those alluded to naively and for political oneupsmanship do just that,...it is fair to say that I despise most all leftist fools WITH A PASSION.

After all, we're at war. Thusly, why on earth would any sane person go along with those most always favoring foreigners and foreign wishes and designs,...OVER America's. Besides skeeter this America,...NOT HONG KONG.

Also, and since fighting the most vicious, determined and united enemy America has ever faced, leftist and/or War Protestor type control of America and America's Fighting Forces at this juncture,...would be about as nationally-suicidal and self-defeating AS IT GETS. All that,...just so some POLITICAL FOOLS & THEIR DUPED FOLLOWERS can get to sing: "Happy Days Are Here Again" again?

I prefer: "God Bless America", anyway.

Neil

[Seascamp]

Capt?n Skeeter,
Ya?ll talkin to me? If so, I didn?t claim Jesus Christ had political affiliation of any stripe. Last I checked Jesus lived some 1750 years before the US was the US and during a period of Imperialist Rome and many iterations of the human experience before current concepts even existed. I would agree that the Christian ethic has helped form a lot of the fabric of our culture but I don?t see where that has been the exclusive territory of US Liberals for the last 600 years or so, not hardly. Good book for you to read: ?A Distant Mirror?, as it is all about the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries and all our common roots.

Alas, sorry for buttin in on your stream of consciousness and musings Capt?n , but then I?m a scalawag ?Black Shoe?, right? And didn?t get in on knife, fork and napkin school or declared by Congress to be a genneman of any sort, LOL, so excuse my bohemian behavior if ya will. I think of myself as a marooned 7th fleet pirate actually so I?m not big on alleged ?Blue Bloods? messing with my real and well established blue collar-hardhat ethic.
I?m glad I have a sense of humor today, you a funny Capt?n, sure enough.

Scamp

P.S. Ya Col. Scout, I know, you're right. Maybe this is a bad thread where we mix politics with religious thought and concepts.
Tic, tic, tic.....booooooommmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[colmurph]

Skeeter...that was about the most assinine post I've ever seen on these boards. I don't think that Jesus Christ would want to be compared to a present day "Liberal". As I recall, the Bible quotes him as saying "Render unto Caesar that which is his and render unto God...." He didn't say that you should expect Ceasar (the Government) to support folks who were too lazy to support themselves or made bad personal choices in their lives which kept them from good jobs. He wouldn't have wanted prohibit any kind of religious display on government property (like the Ten Commandments in a court house) I don't think that he would have approved of abortion or same sex marriages.

For you to try to equate the "Liberalism" of the Democratic Party with the "Liberalism" of Jesus Christ is ludicrous. The closer match would be to equate your kind of "Liberalism" with the "Liberalism" of Cassanova.

[skeeter]

Had to take a few hours mowing the 20 acre lawn. 10 acre front, and 10 back yard. The front has "liberal" grass, and therefore it very easy to mow. We get along very well, no problems. Now the back 10 acres is a pain. It consists of "conservative" type grass, it's like the right-wing conservative republicians, always complains.. need more fertilizer, etc. I feed the back with any odd brand, but the front 10 get the Scotts Turf builder. In my book, those that don't complain gets the best.

I use the John Deere on the front with the very sharp blades, the back get the older Ford with the dull blades. I love treating liberals better, like Smith & Barney theme says, "they earned it".

Now back to the topic of the day.
So all of you still in the dark on what I'm trying to get from you.
I was hoping I would get you to concede that liberals are like Jesus Christ, and that they have the same values.. Meaning, democrats think in the same way as Jesus has done.
However, I'm not dispointed, as it does take a lot of thinking to see the comparison.
I understand the difficulty some may face, due to the fact they have been brain-washed with the messages from Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Pat Roberson, Jerry Falwell, and a few other liberals haters.

Now here is one little bit of a "do & don't".. When you go to the bathroom in the morning(or whenever) and take the big one.
You may want to thank or bless those liberal city commissioners, city fathers who voted to float a bond issue to pay for the sewer
you are about to use. . I'm thinking if your city had the conservatives in charge you probably be going to the one out back..

I could say more, but I will save that for another time.

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