Amen

Codifying Those Commandments
September 5, 2003
By Kerry Tomasi

If the recent flap over the granite monument in Alabama reveals
anything, it's that a vast majority of US citizens - anywhere from
70-80% in recent polls - support having the Ten Commandments prominently
displayed in government buildings. The message 'we the people' appear to
be sending is this: the "Ten Commandments" is the rock on which our
constitutional form of government was founded, and must be acknowledged
and honored as such.

In light of this outpouring of support, and the level of fervor
expressed, we have to presume that the next step for our elected
officials is to incorporate all of these commandments into our civil
laws, and enforce them properly.

Let's take a look at the "Ten" (Exod.20:1-17) and see how this might be
accomplished.

We can also consult the Bible to determine what punishments would be
warranted for violations. After all, who better than God Himself to
guide us in these matters.

1. "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me"

Since this specifically refers to Yahweh, the Hebrew deity, we'll need
to do a little tinkering with the First Amendment to enforce this, like
getting rid of that entire "freedom of religion" concept. Punishment for
offenders? We can ascertain what God would want in Deut.13:6-10 and
17:2-6. Punishment would have to be death.

2. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of
any thing that is in heaven..., in earth..., or in water: Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a
jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto
the third and fourth generation of them that hate me"

This one's a little more complicated. It appears that all art,
sculpture, even photography may have to cease. A lot of details to be
worked out here. I'm not even sure if replicas of the Commandments would
be legal. Might have to use audio.

As for the latter part - punish the children up to the fourth generation
- records will need to be kept. (This principle worked quite well in the
Middle Ages and during the Inquisitions, whereby suspected "heretics"
were tried and convicted long after their death, enabling the
Church/government to seize land and property from their descendants.)

3. "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain"

A council - something like a modern "ecclesiastic tribunal"- could be
established to determine what actions would be deemed blasphemous under
this law. Fraudulent faith healing, political religious pandering, and
all the self-serving repetitive "Thank the Lord" blather going on in
sports these days could be precisely the type of things God had in mind.
Any perceived blasphemy or cursing the name of the Lord would be
punished by death. See Lev.24:13-16.

4. "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. ...in it thou shalt not
do any work"

Self-explanatory. Do not mow your lawn, mend the fence, vacuum the
house, or do the dishes on the Sabbath. We will need to clarify which
day it actually is. The Bible says it's Saturday, but Christians observe
Sunday. We could utilize the "Ecclesiastic Tribunal" to settle this
issue before we begin enforcement. Violations - death. See Exod.31:14-15.

5. "Honour thy father and thy mother"

Clear enough. Punishment for violations - death. See Deut.21:18-21

6. "Thou shalt not kill."

This appears to be pretty straightforward, but if we look at the context
in which this command was issued, we may want to clarify it somewhat
before we write the statute. While under this law Moses, Joshua and the
rest of the "chosen" killed millions of men, women, children and infants
- nearly everyone they came in contact with (Num.31:7-18; Deut.2:34,
3:3-6, 20:13-17; Josh.6:21, 8:25-26, 10:28-41, 11:8-22; 1 Sam.15:3-8).
So we must assume that a civil statute might more accurately read -
"Thou shalt not kill, unless directed to by a religious leader who has
spoken with God." The penalty for killing (except in the name of God)
is... well... death. Lev.24:17

7. "Thou shalt not commit adultery"

It's important to understand what God is referring to here. According to
Mark 10:11-12, Jesus clearly states that anyone who divorces and
remarries, or marries a divorced person "committeth adultery".

Since the penalty for this crime in Lev.20:10-12 is death, enforcement
of this law will obviously be rather detrimental to millions of
families. But what choice have we? We can't just arbitrarily ignore such
explicit biblical teachings.

8. "Thou shalt not steal"

Here's one for the liberals. According to Exod.22:4 restitution double
the value of the theft is all that's required. No imprisonment,
banishment, or stoning. At least we'll be able to free up a lot of jail
space for those awaiting execution for other violations.

9. "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour"

Simply put - no lying or engaging in deception. Interestingly enough, I
can find no clear punishment for lying or bearing false witness in the
Bible. In fact, a whole bunch of it goes on in there by some of the
leading characters. Maybe that's why so much of it is going on among
today's leading characters.

10. "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, ...wife, ...manservant,
..maidservant, ...ox, ...ass, ...nor anything that is thy neighbours"

Again, the "Ecclesiastic Tribunal" could determine which thoughts or
actions would be declared covetous under this law. Certainly all
advertising trying to entice one to buy something or be like someone
else will need to be banned. Improved lie detector technology would be
extremely valuable in ferreting out lawbreakers.

The Bible's a little ambiguous about the punishment for covetousness,
although in Josh.7:21-25, Achan - along with his sons, daughters, oxen,
asses, sheep, and tent - were stoned and burned because he had "coveted"
a garment, some gold and silver, and hid them. Also Mk.7:22 lists
covetousness with adultery, murder, and blasphemy, so we should be able
to come up with an appropriate punishment that would be in line here
biblically.

In summary, once we get the Ten Commandment replicas (or audio version)
posted throughout the land, integrate them into our civil laws with the
corresponding penalties for violations, and rid ourselves - once and for
all - of all this 'lawlessness', we should finally be able to get what's
left of this country back on a strong biblical footing with objective
moral values.

Just as the Founding Fathers envisioned!

After all, isn't that what freedom and liberty are all about?
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This is old news just like you trying to pass your self off as Charlie.

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"Charlie Wolf" wrote in message
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>
>
> Codifying Those Commandments
> September 5, 2003
> By Kerry Tomasi
>

Baloney! You may not believe in God but the majority of us do. I also
support the Constitution and it doesn't need any changes just the judges
that are breaking it.

Charlie Wolf wrote:
> Codifying Those Commandments
> September 5, 2003
> By Kerry Tomasi
>
> If the recent flap over the granite monument in Alabama reveals
> anything, it's that a vast majority of US citizens - anywhere from
> 70-80% in recent polls - support having the Ten Commandments prominently
> displayed in government buildings. The message 'we the people' appear to
> be sending is this: the "Ten Commandments" is the rock on which our
> constitutional form of government was founded, and must be acknowledged
> and honored as such.
>
> In light of this outpouring of support, and the level of fervor
> expressed, we have to presume that the next step for our elected
> officials is to incorporate all of these commandments into our civil
> laws, and enforce them properly.
>
> Let's take a look at the "Ten" (Exod.20:1-17) and see how this might be
> accomplished.
>
> We can also consult the Bible to determine what punishments would be
> warranted for violations. After all, who better than God Himself to
> guide us in these matters.
>
> 1. "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me"
>
> Since this specifically refers to Yahweh, the Hebrew deity, we'll need
> to do a little tinkering with the First Amendment to enforce this, like
> getting rid of that entire "freedom of religion" concept. Punishment for
> offenders? We can ascertain what God would want in Deut.13:6-10 and
> 17:2-6. Punishment would have to be death.
>
> 2. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of
> any thing that is in heaven..., in earth..., or in water: Thou shalt not
> bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a
> jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto
> the third and fourth generation of them that hate me"
>
> This one's a little more complicated. It appears that all art,
> sculpture, even photography may have to cease. A lot of details to be
> worked out here. I'm not even sure if replicas of the Commandments would
> be legal. Might have to use audio.
>
> As for the latter part - punish the children up to the fourth generation
> - records will need to be kept. (This principle worked quite well in the
> Middle Ages and during the Inquisitions, whereby suspected "heretics"
> were tried and convicted long after their death, enabling the
> Church/government to seize land and property from their descendants.)
>
> 3. "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain"
>
> A council - something like a modern "ecclesiastic tribunal"- could be
> established to determine what actions would be deemed blasphemous under
> this law. Fraudulent faith healing, political religious pandering, and
> all the self-serving repetitive "Thank the Lord" blather going on in
> sports these days could be precisely the type of things God had in mind.
> Any perceived blasphemy or cursing the name of the Lord would be
> punished by death. See Lev.24:13-16.
>
> 4. "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. ...in it thou shalt not
> do any work"
>
> Self-explanatory. Do not mow your lawn, mend the fence, vacuum the
> house, or do the dishes on the Sabbath. We will need to clarify which
> day it actually is. The Bible says it's Saturday, but Christians observe
> Sunday. We could utilize the "Ecclesiastic Tribunal" to settle this
> issue before we begin enforcement. Violations - death. See Exod.31:14-15.
>
> 5. "Honour thy father and thy mother"
>
> Clear enough. Punishment for violations - death. See Deut.21:18-21
>
> 6. "Thou shalt not kill."
>
> This appears to be pretty straightforward, but if we look at the context
> in which this command was issued, we may want to clarify it somewhat
> before we write the statute. While under this law Moses, Joshua and the
> rest of the "chosen" killed millions of men, women, children and infants
> - nearly everyone they came in contact with (Num.31:7-18; Deut.2:34,
> 3:3-6, 20:13-17; Josh.6:21, 8:25-26, 10:28-41, 11:8-22; 1 Sam.15:3-8).
> So we must assume that a civil statute might more accurately read -
> "Thou shalt not kill, unless directed to by a religious leader who has
> spoken with God." The penalty for killing (except in the name of God)
> is... well... death. Lev.24:17
>
> 7. "Thou shalt not commit adultery"
>
> It's important to understand what God is referring to here. According to
> Mark 10:11-12, Jesus clearly states that anyone who divorces and
> remarries, or marries a divorced person "committeth adultery".
>
> Since the penalty for this crime in Lev.20:10-12 is death, enforcement
> of this law will obviously be rather detrimental to millions of
> families. But what choice have we? We can't just arbitrarily ignore such
> explicit biblical teachings.
>
> 8. "Thou shalt not steal"
>
> Here's one for the liberals. According to Exod.22:4 restitution double
> the value of the theft is all that's required. No imprisonment,
> banishment, or stoning. At least we'll be able to free up a lot of jail
> space for those awaiting execution for other violations.
>
> 9. "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour"
>
> Simply put - no lying or engaging in deception. Interestingly enough, I
> can find no clear punishment for lying or bearing false witness in the
> Bible. In fact, a whole bunch of it goes on in there by some of the
> leading characters. Maybe that's why so much of it is going on among
> today's leading characters.
>
> 10. "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, ...wife, ...manservant,
> .maidservant, ...ox, ...ass, ...nor anything that is thy neighbours"
>
> Again, the "Ecclesiastic Tribunal" could determine which thoughts or
> actions would be declared covetous under this law. Certainly all
> advertising trying to entice one to buy something or be like someone
> else will need to be banned. Improved lie detector technology would be
> extremely valuable in ferreting out lawbreakers.
>
> The Bible's a little ambiguous about the punishment for covetousness,
> although in Josh.7:21-25, Achan - along with his sons, daughters, oxen,
> asses, sheep, and tent - were stoned and burned because he had "coveted"
> a garment, some gold and silver, and hid them. Also Mk.7:22 lists
> covetousness with adultery, murder, and blasphemy, so we should be able
> to come up with an appropriate punishment that would be in line here
> biblically.
>
> In summary, once we get the Ten Commandment replicas (or audio version)
> posted throughout the land, integrate them into our civil laws with the
> corresponding penalties for violations, and rid ourselves - once and for
> all - of all this 'lawlessness', we should finally be able to get what's
> left of this country back on a strong biblical footing with objective
> moral values.
>
> Just as the Founding Fathers envisioned!
>
> After all, isn't that what freedom and liberty are all about?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
> The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
> is unverified.
>
>

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:07:46 -0500, "Jaberwokie@global.net" wrote:

>Baloney! You may not believe in God but the majority of us do.

what majority is that? which census was taken to verify your claim "the majority of us do"

Just because any "majority" believe a lie, or pack of them, doesn't make it any more valid.

religion is bullshit. god is a myth, and those that are hoodwinked into believing that nonsense
are ignorant and deluded sheep.

> I also
>support the Constitution and it doesn't need any changes just the judges
>that are breaking it.

like that self aggrandizing idiot - judge moore. hopefully he will get fired soon, and that will be that.

free your mind from the psychosis and stupidity of "religion"

http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...an/index.shtml

>
>Charlie Wolf wrote:
>> Codifying Those Commandments
>> September 5, 2003
>> By Kerry Tomasi
>>
>> If the recent flap over the granite monument in Alabama reveals
>> anything, it's that a vast majority of US citizens - anywhere from
>> 70-80% in recent polls - support having the Ten Commandments prominently
>> displayed in government buildings. The message 'we the people' appear to
>> be sending is this: the "Ten Commandments" is the rock on which our
>> constitutional form of government was founded, and must be acknowledged
>> and honored as such.
>>
>> In light of this outpouring of support, and the level of fervor
>> expressed, we have to presume that the next step for our elected
>> officials is to incorporate all of these commandments into our civil
>> laws, and enforce them properly.
>>
>> Let's take a look at the "Ten" (Exod.20:1-17) and see how this might be
>> accomplished.
>>
>> We can also consult the Bible to determine what punishments would be
>> warranted for violations. After all, who better than God Himself to
>> guide us in these matters.
>>
>> 1. "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me"
>>
>> Since this specifically refers to Yahweh, the Hebrew deity, we'll need
>> to do a little tinkering with the First Amendment to enforce this, like
>> getting rid of that entire "freedom of religion" concept. Punishment for
>> offenders? We can ascertain what God would want in Deut.13:6-10 and
>> 17:2-6. Punishment would have to be death.
>>
>> 2. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of
>> any thing that is in heaven..., in earth..., or in water: Thou shalt not
>> bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a
>> jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto
>> the third and fourth generation of them that hate me"
>>
>> This one's a little more complicated. It appears that all art,
>> sculpture, even photography may have to cease. A lot of details to be
>> worked out here. I'm not even sure if replicas of the Commandments would
>> be legal. Might have to use audio.
>>
>> As for the latter part - punish the children up to the fourth generation
>> - records will need to be kept. (This principle worked quite well in the
>> Middle Ages and during the Inquisitions, whereby suspected "heretics"
>> were tried and convicted long after their death, enabling the
>> Church/government to seize land and property from their descendants.)
>>
>> 3. "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain"
>>
>> A council - something like a modern "ecclesiastic tribunal"- could be
>> established to determine what actions would be deemed blasphemous under
>> this law. Fraudulent faith healing, political religious pandering, and
>> all the self-serving repetitive "Thank the Lord" blather going on in
>> sports these days could be precisely the type of things God had in mind.
>> Any perceived blasphemy or cursing the name of the Lord would be
>> punished by death. See Lev.24:13-16.
>>
>> 4. "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. ...in it thou shalt not
>> do any work"
>>
>> Self-explanatory. Do not mow your lawn, mend the fence, vacuum the
>> house, or do the dishes on the Sabbath. We will need to clarify which
>> day it actually is. The Bible says it's Saturday, but Christians observe
>> Sunday. We could utilize the "Ecclesiastic Tribunal" to settle this
>> issue before we begin enforcement. Violations - death. See Exod.31:14-15.
>>
>> 5. "Honour thy father and thy mother"
>>
>> Clear enough. Punishment for violations - death. See Deut.21:18-21
>>
>> 6. "Thou shalt not kill."
>>
>> This appears to be pretty straightforward, but if we look at the context
>> in which this command was issued, we may want to clarify it somewhat
>> before we write the statute. While under this law Moses, Joshua and the
>> rest of the "chosen" killed millions of men, women, children and infants
>> - nearly everyone they came in contact with (Num.31:7-18; Deut.2:34,
>> 3:3-6, 20:13-17; Josh.6:21, 8:25-26, 10:28-41, 11:8-22; 1 Sam.15:3-8).
>> So we must assume that a civil statute might more accurately read -
>> "Thou shalt not kill, unless directed to by a religious leader who has
>> spoken with God." The penalty for killing (except in the name of God)
>> is... well... death. Lev.24:17
>>
>> 7. "Thou shalt not commit adultery"
>>
>> It's important to understand what God is referring to here. According to
>> Mark 10:11-12, Jesus clearly states that anyone who divorces and
>> remarries, or marries a divorced person "committeth adultery".
>>
>> Since the penalty for this crime in Lev.20:10-12 is death, enforcement
>> of this law will obviously be rather detrimental to millions of
>> families. But what choice have we? We can't just arbitrarily ignore such
>> explicit biblical teachings.
>>
>> 8. "Thou shalt not steal"
>>
>> Here's one for the liberals. According to Exod.22:4 restitution double
>> the value of the theft is all that's required. No imprisonment,
>> banishment, or stoning. At least we'll be able to free up a lot of jail
>> space for those awaiting execution for other violations.
>>
>> 9. "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour"
>>
>> Simply put - no lying or engaging in deception. Interestingly enough, I
>> can find no clear punishment for lying or bearing false witness in the
>> Bible. In fact, a whole bunch of it goes on in there by some of the
>> leading characters. Maybe that's why so much of it is going on among
>> today's leading characters.
>>
>> 10. "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, ...wife, ...manservant,
>> .maidservant, ...ox, ...ass, ...nor anything that is thy neighbours"
>>
>> Again, the "Ecclesiastic Tribunal" could determine which thoughts or
>> actions would be declared covetous under this law. Certainly all
>> advertising trying to entice one to buy something or be like someone
>> else will need to be banned. Improved lie detector technology would be
>> extremely valuable in ferreting out lawbreakers.
>>
>> The Bible's a little ambiguous about the punishment for covetousness,
>> although in Josh.7:21-25, Achan - along with his sons, daughters, oxen,
>> asses, sheep, and tent - were stoned and burned because he had "coveted"
>> a garment, some gold and silver, and hid them. Also Mk.7:22 lists
>> covetousness with adultery, murder, and blasphemy, so we should be able
>> to come up with an appropriate punishment that would be in line here
>> biblically.
>>
>> In summary, once we get the Ten Commandment replicas (or audio version)
>> posted throughout the land, integrate them into our civil laws with the
>> corresponding penalties for violations, and rid ourselves - once and for
>> all - of all this 'lawlessness', we should finally be able to get what's
>> left of this country back on a strong biblical footing with objective
>> moral values.
>>
>> Just as the Founding Fathers envisioned!
>>
>> After all, isn't that what freedom and liberty are all about?
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
>> The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
>> is unverified.
>>
>>

"Charlie Wolf" wrote in message
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>
>
> Codifying Those Commandments


{Lots of stuff clipped by order of G-d}


Charlie, I just spoke to Him and was empathically informed that I and only I
have the power to speak directly to Him and receive Special Instructions
regarding the rest of His world.

Now Charlie, remember that He has a wonderful sense of humor. Really, He
does ... just look in the mirror.

My Blessings Upon You and Yours, just don't make me angry, ok?

Archangel Dave

You're saying you are just an accident of some primordial soup. That
your uncle was an aomeba.

-- wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:07:46 -0500, "Jaberwokie@global.net" wrote:
>
>
>>Baloney! You may not believe in God but the majority of us do.
>
>
> what majority is that? which census was taken to verify your claim "the majority of us do"
>
> Just because any "majority" believe a lie, or pack of them, doesn't make it any more valid.
>
> religion is bullshit. god is a myth, and those that are hoodwinked into believing that nonsense
> are ignorant and deluded sheep.
>
>
>>I also
>>support the Constitution and it doesn't need any changes just the judges
>>that are breaking it.
>
>
> like that self aggrandizing idiot - judge moore. hopefully he will get fired soon, and that will be that.
>
> free your mind from the psychosis and stupidity of "religion"
>
> http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...an/index.shtml
>
>
>>Charlie Wolf wrote:
>>
>>>Codifying Those Commandments
>>>September 5, 2003
>>>By Kerry Tomasi
>>>
>>>If the recent flap over the granite monument in Alabama reveals
>>>anything, it's that a vast majority of US citizens - anywhere from
>>>70-80% in recent polls - support having the Ten Commandments prominently
>>>displayed in government buildings. The message 'we the people' appear to
>>>be sending is this: the "Ten Commandments" is the rock on which our
>>>constitutional form of government was founded, and must be acknowledged
>>>and honored as such.
>>>
>>>In light of this outpouring of support, and the level of fervor
>>>expressed, we have to presume that the next step for our elected
>>>officials is to incorporate all of these commandments into our civil
>>>laws, and enforce them properly.
>>>
>>>Let's take a look at the "Ten" (Exod.20:1-17) and see how this might be
>>>accomplished.
>>>
>>>We can also consult the Bible to determine what punishments would be
>>>warranted for violations. After all, who better than God Himself to
>>>guide us in these matters.
>>>
>>>1. "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me"
>>>
>>>Since this specifically refers to Yahweh, the Hebrew deity, we'll need
>>>to do a little tinkering with the First Amendment to enforce this, like
>>>getting rid of that entire "freedom of religion" concept. Punishment for
>>>offenders? We can ascertain what God would want in Deut.13:6-10 and
>>>17:2-6. Punishment would have to be death.
>>>
>>>2. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of
>>>any thing that is in heaven..., in earth..., or in water: Thou shalt not
>>>bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a
>>>jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto
>>>the third and fourth generation of them that hate me"
>>>
>>>This one's a little more complicated. It appears that all art,
>>>sculpture, even photography may have to cease. A lot of details to be
>>>worked out here. I'm not even sure if replicas of the Commandments would
>>>be legal. Might have to use audio.
>>>
>>>As for the latter part - punish the children up to the fourth generation
>>>- records will need to be kept. (This principle worked quite well in the
>>>Middle Ages and during the Inquisitions, whereby suspected "heretics"
>>>were tried and convicted long after their death, enabling the
>>>Church/government to seize land and property from their descendants.)
>>>
>>>3. "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain"
>>>
>>>A council - something like a modern "ecclesiastic tribunal"- could be
>>>established to determine what actions would be deemed blasphemous under
>>>this law. Fraudulent faith healing, political religious pandering, and
>>>all the self-serving repetitive "Thank the Lord" blather going on in
>>>sports these days could be precisely the type of things God had in mind.
>>>Any perceived blasphemy or cursing the name of the Lord would be
>>>punished by death. See Lev.24:13-16.
>>>
>>>4. "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. ...in it thou shalt not
>>>do any work"
>>>
>>>Self-explanatory. Do not mow your lawn, mend the fence, vacuum the
>>>house, or do the dishes on the Sabbath. We will need to clarify which
>>>day it actually is. The Bible says it's Saturday, but Christians observe
>>>Sunday. We could utilize the "Ecclesiastic Tribunal" to settle this
>>>issue before we begin enforcement. Violations - death. See Exod.31:14-15.
>>>
>>>5. "Honour thy father and thy mother"
>>>
>>>Clear enough. Punishment for violations - death. See Deut.21:18-21
>>>
>>>6. "Thou shalt not kill."
>>>
>>>This appears to be pretty straightforward, but if we look at the context
>>>in which this command was issued, we may want to clarify it somewhat
>>>before we write the statute. While under this law Moses, Joshua and the
>>>rest of the "chosen" killed millions of men, women, children and infants
>>>- nearly everyone they came in contact with (Num.31:7-18; Deut.2:34,
>>>3:3-6, 20:13-17; Josh.6:21, 8:25-26, 10:28-41, 11:8-22; 1 Sam.15:3-8).
>>>So we must assume that a civil statute might more accurately read -
>>>"Thou shalt not kill, unless directed to by a religious leader who has
>>>spoken with God." The penalty for killing (except in the name of God)
>>>is... well... death. Lev.24:17
>>>
>>>7. "Thou shalt not commit adultery"
>>>
>>>It's important to understand what God is referring to here. According to
>>>Mark 10:11-12, Jesus clearly states that anyone who divorces and
>>>remarries, or marries a divorced person "committeth adultery".
>>>
>>>Since the penalty for this crime in Lev.20:10-12 is death, enforcement
>>>of this law will obviously be rather detrimental to millions of
>>>families. But what choice have we? We can't just arbitrarily ignore such
>>>explicit biblical teachings.
>>>
>>>8. "Thou shalt not steal"
>>>
>>>Here's one for the liberals. According to Exod.22:4 restitution double
>>>the value of the theft is all that's required. No imprisonment,
>>>banishment, or stoning. At least we'll be able to free up a lot of jail
>>>space for those awaiting execution for other violations.
>>>
>>>9. "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour"
>>>
>>>Simply put - no lying or engaging in deception. Interestingly enough, I
>>>can find no clear punishment for lying or bearing false witness in the
>>>Bible. In fact, a whole bunch of it goes on in there by some of the
>>>leading characters. Maybe that's why so much of it is going on among
>>>today's leading characters.
>>>
>>>10. "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, ...wife, ...manservant,
>>>.maidservant, ...ox, ...ass, ...nor anything that is thy neighbours"
>>>
>>>Again, the "Ecclesiastic Tribunal" could determine which thoughts or
>>>actions would be declared covetous under this law. Certainly all
>>>advertising trying to entice one to buy something or be like someone
>>>else will need to be banned. Improved lie detector technology would be
>>>extremely valuable in ferreting out lawbreakers.
>>>
>>>The Bible's a little ambiguous about the punishment for covetousness,
>>>although in Josh.7:21-25, Achan - along with his sons, daughters, oxen,
>>>asses, sheep, and tent - were stoned and burned because he had "coveted"
>>>a garment, some gold and silver, and hid them. Also Mk.7:22 lists
>>>covetousness with adultery, murder, and blasphemy, so we should be able
>>>to come up with an appropriate punishment that would be in line here
>>>biblically.
>>>
>>>In summary, once we get the Ten Commandment replicas (or audio version)
>>>posted throughout the land, integrate them into our civil laws with the
>>>corresponding penalties for violations, and rid ourselves - once and for
>>>all - of all this 'lawlessness', we should finally be able to get what's
>>>left of this country back on a strong biblical footing with objective
>>>moral values.
>>>
>>>Just as the Founding Fathers envisioned!
>>>
>>>After all, isn't that what freedom and liberty are all about?
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>>
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Posted by: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Charlie Wolf)

>1. "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me"
>
>Since this specifically refers to Yahweh, the Hebrew deity,

Well, the reference is to the speaker, of course. The word "have"
used as it is can also mean "raise up". The same Creator of the
Hebrews also saw fit to create everyone else.

IMHO, the Bible itself can be raised up as an idol. The mentality
seems to be that the person has the god of the universe trapped like a
squashed fly within the pages of that leather-bound tomb or nailed to
that granite slab. If the removal of the slab unseats God, then I
wouldn't think that he's really anything much about which to worry.
The Ten Commandments held before they were written and they'll always
hold. We believe that God gave man the freedom to follow them or not;
however, the failure to do so results in spiritual death... and, since
physical death is inevitable, that's probably what it really means.

Jones

On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:45:35 -0500, Jaberwokie wrote:

>You're saying you are just an accident of some primordial soup. That
>your uncle was an amoeba.

We are a universal accident. an anomaly. that is why there are no aliens, and that is why there is no god.
do you think "god" would have his hands full with just one race of idiots? I would hope not.

It would show him as being less than omnipotent if he could not handle only one race of people on one small planet. Why
wouldn't It create tens of worlds, with 10 times the people? that would be 10 times the worship, and he is a "jealous
god" after all, according to "his" own words in that book of lies, known as the "bible".

religious morons would have you think life has only existed on this planet for some 6000 years. I wonder what plan god
had for neanderthal and cromagnon man? they were here far longer than we have been, and we have managed to fuck up this
earth in only the last 3000 years, compared to the 30,000 plus years that were the domain of the neanderthals and
cromagnon. Both of which had thriving intelligent societies, but sadly they could not keep pace with evolution, and they
died out, or were bred out of existence.

No, our lives are as meaningless as the anthills we mow over on our lawns. When we die, thats it. dead, nothing.
and one day our entire race will be absorbed back into the universe, either through deliberate stupidity
i.e.; corporate america polluting us to death, psycho religious nutters getting their hands on a nuke or two,
or the big one, should we survive that long, our sun burning us alive when it becomes a red giant.

we are divided by the greatest evil in the world: the quest for some idiotic god-thing. it stops us from communicating
with each other on more meaningful levels of science and technology. Then we have the whole stupid political thing
asshole north koreans dealing dope and weapons, xenophobic chinese dealing weapons to the highest bidder,
and good old monkey boy in the white house stirring up the pot.

If we were homogenous (that is "all together" for the more ignorant of you who can manage to boot up your computer
without frying your harddrive) we might have had a chance at the life of "star trek", but sadly that will never happen.
we will quarrel and fight each other to the very last, over idiotic notions of a supreme being, and his self created
arch nemesis "THE DEVIL". We will look as stupid as two dogs fighting over a lousy bone for the rancid pieces of meat
that cling to its surface.

Until I have real proof, I spit in the face of god, his "son" jesus, the holy spirit, and the other made up saints,
devils, angels, arch angels, and host of other illusory beings that comprise the judeo-christian tribal belief system.
I reject the concept of sin and guilt as devisive tools used throughout the past 2000 years as a means to get the
populace under control. I also spit on shiva, vishnu and brahman, on mohammed, and moses, and yahweh, and jehovah
and jupiter and thor and loki, and ahura mazda, and any other made up spook that goes bump in the night.

fuck em all. damn em all. come and get me.

Im waiting.....

>
>-- wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:07:46 -0500, "Jaberwokie@global.net" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Baloney! You may not believe in God but the majority of us do.
>>
>>
>> what majority is that? which census was taken to verify your claim "the majority of us do"
>>
>> Just because any "majority" believe a lie, or pack of them, doesn't make it any more valid.
>>
>> religion is bullshit. god is a myth, and those that are hoodwinked into believing that nonsense
>> are ignorant and deluded sheep.
>>
>>
>>>I also
>>>support the Constitution and it doesn't need any changes just the judges
>>>that are breaking it.
>>
>>
>> like that self aggrandizing idiot - judge moore. hopefully he will get fired soon, and that will be that.
>>
>> free your mind from the psychosis and stupidity of "religion"
>>
>> http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...an/index.shtml
>>
>>