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Old 11-23-2010, 03:49 PM
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Never Forgive A Traitor

For those of you too young to remember Hanoi Jane is a bad person and did some
terrible things during the Vietnam war . Things that can not be forgiven!!!!

For those who served and/or died. . .

NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR. SHE REALLY WAS A TRAITOR!!

And now OBAMA wants to honor her......!!!!

In Memory of LT. C.Thomsen Wieland who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton

IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE FORWARD THIS SO THAT EVERYONE WILL
KNOW!!!!!!

She really is a traitor .

A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED. KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA

This is for all the kids born in the 70's and after who do not remember, and
didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and
sisters had to bear..

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the '100 Women of the Century.'

BARBRA WALTERS WRITES :
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known
how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who
served and sacrificed during Vietnam .

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry
Driscoll, a River Rat.

In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo
Prison the ' Hanoi Hilton.'

Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean
PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American ' Peace Activist ' the
'lenient and humane treatment' he'd received.

He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent
beating, he fell forward
on to the camp Commandant 's feet, which sent that officer berserk.

In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which
permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application
of a wooden baton.

From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years
in the 'Hanoi Hilton',,, the first three of which his family only knew he was
'missing in action'. His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group,
too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a 'peace
delegation' visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they
were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his
Social Security Number on it , in the palm of his hand.

When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: 'Aren't you sorry you
bombed babies?' and 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your
benevolent captors?' Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their
sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat.. At the end of the line and once the
camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the
officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper..

Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number
four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was captured by
the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for
over 5 years.

I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia ; and
one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me
Thuot , South Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs)

We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals....'

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist political
officer if I would be willing to meet with her..

I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs
received... and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North
Vietnamese, and parroted by her as 'humane and lenient.'

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms
outstretched with a large steel weights placed on my hands, and beaten with a
bamboo cane.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked
her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me.

These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as
part of '100 Years of Great Women.' Lest we forget....' 100 Years of Great
Women' should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of
so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's
participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to
forward to as many people as you possibly can.. It will eventually end up on her
computer.


She needs to know that we will never forget. RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343

PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER STATUS WILL CHANGE.

We got this several times lately in our email. I can't find any data about what Obama might be considering.

Joy
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:10 PM
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Most of that is not true. I, for one, find enough wrong with what she did do to despise her.
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:11 PM
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Thank you very much for posting this.
The MORE that comes out about that REAL Despicable Low-Life & Treasonable: "Hanoi Jane Fonda", the better. "America's Finest" and/or U.S. Military (Dead because of HER & even Survived in spite of HER), deserve no less.

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How do you know that: "Most is not true"?

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Does anyone else here on Patfiles think: "Most is not true" orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr that
a couple of: "Hanoi Hilton" captives are just flat-out-liars about: "Hanoi Jane Fonda"???

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Old 11-28-2010, 07:09 AM
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Neil....our own POW's have debunked the slip of paper story and many others. Doc Fred is right...there is enough to hate this woman about without making stuff up. You can do the research yourself. I would start with SNOPES.
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Fair enough, Pack. Guess that not even old: "Hanoi Jane Fonda" is the PERFECT example of treasonable enemy helpful & encouraging low-lifes being stupidly Honored,...AMAZINGLY by Fellow Americans of all people???

Whereas sicko Jane being Honored by Vietnamese Military is TOTALLY understandable.

In fairness to all in general, those Questionable (Who really knows for sure?) accounts seemed so typically normal & to be expected of AAA Jane. Maybe even worse?

Wonder if similar likely stories were questioned about ex-President Bill Clinton's younger TREASONABLE ENEMY SUPPORT on FOREIGN SOIL,...also? The Unarguable Truths about his youthful treasonable acts certainly didn't hurt that phony one iota, either.

Regardless,...nice chit-chattin again. Been awhile.

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Neil...don't know a Vietnam Vet or any other Vet that doesn't hate Hanoi Jane but I hate when crap is spread around on the internet like that because then it has a tendency to make that person look good when it's debunked and anything else then becomes BS...even if it's true. That friggin' award thing was in 1999 and didn't even have anything to do with O-bama. So, it makes a fool out of anyone that doesn't check out the facts. All the former POW's hate her but they hate even worse that their good names are hijacked by people that don't believe what she did was enough and have to add a bunch of crap to it. People need to check things like this out before they make fools out of themselves by repeating lies. Glad you looked it up. Good talkin' again. Now back in my bunker.
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I still think that when this stuff goes around (like I said we got it several times in emails) we need to get it out, dust it off and talk about it again.

It is the only way for those who just get the emails to discuss the validity where others who haven't processed this information for years can learn that we check data and still will forever hate her.
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I'll drink to that: "...and still will ever hate her" profundity.

Pack,
I just don't believe SNOPES or even survived captives of: "Hanoi Hilton" can destinquish ALL that; "Hanoi Jane Fonda" DESPICABLY & anti-America DID DO,...from any extra made up; "BS" about her as you and others say was/is bandied about. No captives could have possibly been everywhere Jane & her Vietnamese Soul Mates gleefully toured & inspected in Vietnam.

The way I see things, is that only people whom will ever know The Whole Truth about: "Personally responsible for millions of deaths in Cambodia, Laos & Vietnam for her actions, Jane Fonda",....is Victory Helpful Jane herself & her Victorious Vietnamese Friends.

NO OTHERS will ever know what ACTUALLY transpired between sympatico Jane & RVN.
Hey,...could today's: "BS" actually be tomorrow's; "Gospel"?

Besides and just as in old pirate tales, those catives Not Surviving captivity at that despicable: "Hanoi Hilton"..."Can tell no tales", anyway. Therefore, heaven only knows the Total Truth about Stupidly Treasonable: "Hanoi Jane".

I don't think it foolish believing the worst ever possible & imaginable about: "AAA Jane". Whatever enemy supportive behavior attributed to "Her" is much more than likely than not.

Anyone bother to Snope-out the multitude of: "Barbarella's" adoring fans & treason denying acceptors?

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