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Old 04-04-2022, 12:40 PM
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Question You've Got To Do What You Have Got To Do

4-4-2022

How many of us go through our entire life-times doing only that which other people dictate? In fact, how many of us are truly happy with what we do for a living, or do we merely live from pay check to pay check, doing only that which we were ordered to do in order to survive – what a helluva waste of talent, time and a lifetime, in my opinion?

“But they do say that you’ve got to do, what you have got to do and isn’t that a shame?!”

I cannot help but wonder, just how many inventions have gone by the wayside, how many brilliant novels have gone unwritten, how many creative works have gone un-penned and just how many ideas have gone by the hell and this just because some other individual has laid the groundwork of your life for you, or you have been made to adhere to the desires of another or even forced by circumstances into doing something for a living that survival alone has dictated – “What A Helluva Waste Of Talent, Desire And Even Ability And this, Merely Because Someone Else Has Attempted To Fix The Roll Of The Dice For You!”
Ah, what fools ‘we’ mere mortals continue to be!!

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Old 04-05-2022, 02:55 AM
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HC - your post made me think that we've become a society that could be described as Herd Mentality.
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We've become in ways similar to herd mentality, mob mentality or pack mentality describes how we people
can be influenced by their peers - to adopt certain behaviors on a largely emotional, rather than rational, basis.
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I've heard this sometime ago - I wasn't sure if it fits into a human society - but after reviewing it further it does
sorta fit much of society at times.
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Post Anthropomorphism: how much humans and animals share is still contested

Anthropomorphism: how much humans and animals share is still contested
By: Oliver Milman - The Guardian US News Edition - 01-15-16
Re: https://www.theguardian.com/science/...nimals-science

Humans have long attempted to portray the natural world as reflections of us, from giving storms names such as Desmond or Katrina to putting tasteful blue clothing on Donald Duck and Peter the Rabbit. But the science of how much humans actually share with other animals is still keenly contested.

The widely shared image of a male kangaroo cradling the head of a dying female, in front of her joey, was immediately cast as a touching display of marsupial grief, before several scientists pointed out that the kangaroo’s interests were probably a little more carnal than first thought.

This kind of anthropomorphism isn’t new of course – some of the oldest known deities combine human and beast – but it has only been since Charles Darwin’s description of joy and love among animals that the debate has evolved on whether humans hold exclusivity over certain traits.

Animals such as apes and crows have been seen using tools, previously thought a human preserve. A 44-year-old gorilla called Koko has the of a three-year-old child after learning 1,000 words of American sign language. She has called herself “Queen” – evidence, her head caretaker claims, that she understands her celebrity status.

But many scientists are still keen to draw stark lines of difference between humans and other animals. Some warn that anthropomorphism, now regularly demonstrated through the online sharing of videos of pandas having tantrums or orangutans having a laugh, can be harmful.

“It’s almost like the internet was built for anthropomorphizing animals,” said Holly Dunsworth, an anthropologist at the University of Rhode Island. “Humans aren’t the only animals capable of forming strong bonds, but to say that the kangaroo even knew the other kangaroo was dying is beyond anything we know. No one has shown that animals understand dying or where babies come from. We can’t say they think that abstractly.”

While Koko’s grasp of language is astonishing, it lacks the nuance and complexity of the way humans communicate with each other. There’s a key difference between “signals” and understanding and expanding upon ideas and abstract concepts, Dunsworth said.

“Other animals are more complex than purely being driven by instinct, but I’m very comfortable with the explanation that they don’t need abstract reasoning to do these complex behaviors,” she said. “We can explain behavior separate from the way humans think.”

An unconscious belief that bears, horses and dolphins possess human desires and thoughts wrapped up in odd costumes can be detrimental for children, some psychologists have argued.

Last year, Patricia Ganea, a psychologist at Toronto University, ran a series of experiments on three- to five-year-olds in which they were given information about animals in straight factual form and then in a more fantastical anthropomorphized way.

She found that the children were likely to attribute human characteristics to other animals and were less likely to retain factual information about them when told they lived their lives as furry humans.

Ganea said attributing human-like intentions and beliefs is a “very natural way to explain certain animal behaviors” and can be useful in generating empathy for mistreated animals. But she adds there is a downside.

“Anthropomorphism can lead to an inaccurate understanding of biological processes in the natural world,” she said. “It can also lead to inappropriate behaviors towards wild animals, such as trying to adopt a wild animal as a ‘pet’ or misinterpreting the actions of a wild animal.”
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Common depictions of animals in children’s entertainment are likely to amplify this message, Ganea said.

“Jiminy Cricket is the voice of conscience and not an accurate description of what insects behave like,” she said. “But, yes, the human-like animal representations in the media are likely to increase the tendency to anthropomorphize the natural world.”

But it’s clear from multiple experiments that some animals are closer to being “human” than others. In tests, monkeys have given up the chance of food so that older or weaker members of the clan can eat. A chimpanzee named Santino has shown a remarkable ability to plan ahead – and hold grudges – by calmly gathering and hiding piles of stones ready to hurl at visitors who gawp at him in his zoo enclosure in Sweden.

It’s not just primates. Scientists have gathered evidence that elephants sacrifice their wellbeing for the good of the group and grieve for their dead. Young elephants that have lost parents to poachers have suffered a type of post-traumatic stress disorder, trumpeting loudly and unusually at night and showing other signs of agitation. Mapping of the brains of several different species shows that they share similar neurons to humans that process social information and empathy.

“It’s categorically wrong to say that animals don’t have thoughts and emotions, just like it’s wrong to say they are completely the same as us,” said Carl Safina, a biologist and author of a book called Beyond Words: What Animals Think and Feel, which argues that sneering at anthropomorphism risks eroding our empathy with species we are helping wipe out at a rate unseen since the time of the dinosaurs.

“Great apes have large brains and complex social lives, wolves live in structured families. But herrings don’t have social structures. So we can’t say all animals are the same.

*[“But humans are an extreme example of everything. We are simultaneously the most compassionate and the cruelest animal, the friendliest and most destructive, we experience the most grief and cause the most grief. We are a complicated case.”]*

The idea that a kangaroo would hold another’s head to say farewell as they die is “overdone”, Safina said, but it’s inaccurate to dismiss any notion of understanding or even loss.

“It’s fair to say many animals have richer social lives and a richer palette of strategic abilities than we give them credit for,” he said. “We should get better acquainted with the animals we share the world with. If only because they are so beautiful and so interesting.”
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Note: As we've known - The basics of life are amazing - humans vr's native animals share obvious traits - some animals even war amongst themselves or other's at times.
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