Dirty thirty help!

[eriksale]

I'm sorry but while I'm on a roll? This is great thearpy, please endulg!

I talked about how my dad treated the enlised.
My dad for the last ten years in the AF flew for "special missions" aka "little SAM"
They were basically the Airlines for the Army brass. So they served the best transpotation as well as the best accomodations.

I rember my dad telling me that leaving from Hamilton AFB with a "black steward" and going to the "south" circa 65-69.

Landing , going to a motel only to be told "sorry sir you have a room but your other crew, "black steward" needs to find another "motel" ! , My dad say's give me a room with 2 beds, the SGT will stay with me!!!

Would like to think of my dad as one of the first who treated ALL as equals !!!

I love you Dad

Dave

[eriksale]

One more time
I sent this to my active duty friend but if any one has advise etc., would be greatly appreciated!

A: when the time comes "military funeral" how to go about. My understanding is they won't do much for a retired Major but ???
B: I maybe able to arrange "missing man" from locals but any way to ask for a AF one ?
C: With the "Dirty Thirty" they gave him one "Air Medal" they owe him at least 7 clusters, any way to get?
D: He was in Korea from 55-56 I believe there is a medal for being there then that he has never received, how do we get?
E: This is a tough one. When my dad was in Korea. (I have heard this story over and over but never change so it must be true)
They asked for volunteers and of course bachelors first, no reply. So my dad volunteered, with wife and son at home. Now the "rest of the story"

On one of the island's of the coast they had a person with an appendasidus (sp attack, who would die without proper medical attention. So Carl said he would fly C-47 by himself, just asked that there be a jeep at each and of the beach and one at the edge of the surf with their lights on so he could land on the beach. So they did, he did and retrieved the soldier at night to a hospital.

That's the story and I've always felt that was worth some sort of reconizition (Silver, Bronze, ???)

[Son-Of-Pilot]

The Air Force only gave my dad a single air medal too. Hell, they should have gotten bronze stars, silver stars, DFCs .....

I understand your frustration. I am sorry your dad is not doing well. All my prayers to you and your family.

I don't know about military funerals but I am pretty sure that you can arrange one through the Air Force for a retired combat pilot. About 10 years ago my uncle died ... he was an E-7 and he got his military funeral. He didn't die in action .... a G-----med drunk driver killed him in South Carolina.

Please keep my dad up to speed on your dad. If there is a service, I know my dad would want to be there.

Todd

[1CAVCCO15MED]

Check this out http://www.cem.va.gov/mhg.asp

[eriksale]

Hi all
I have some good news on my dad.

Was at Travis AFB hospital, Sent over to UC Davis in Sacramento. They did some procedures on his lung then sent him back to Travis.

Travis sent him home on Sunday !!!

He will be going back to Travis for testing next Wed as they think his cancer may not be as bad as originally thought so may be able to treat with radiation.
At least he is home.
Just wanted to up date

Dave

[Son-Of-Pilot]

I am glad your dad is doing well. I hope the holidays are a wonderful, peaceful time for you and your family.

Take care,

Todd

[Son-Of-Pilot]

I finally figured out what BAU MUOI LAM means. Dad was out here for Thanksgiving (he got to see his 10 month old grandson) and we got to talking about the Dirty Thirty. I told him I was having a hard time figuring out the Vietnamese part of the old unit patch. Dad kind of grinned and got a far away look on his face then explained it this way.

Dad said that BAU MUOI LAM means "33" in Vietnamese, but it is also was the name of a locally brewed beer that had formaldehyde in it and some kind of ungodly high alcohol content. Dad said that was about all they could get to drink unless someone snuck into Saigon for some Budweiser. Dad said the water there would give you some kind of volcanic running shits and the V/C kept slipping all kinds of nasty stuff into the cokes that managed to get there. So dad said the BAU MUOI LAM beer was the drink that was least likely to kill you and since all the guys were drinking it they decided to put it on their patch.


Now I know the meaning ..... and the reason there was snickering whenever the jeeps were driven into town.

[DMZ-LT]

Keep movin Dave , your always welcome here. Lost my Dad 9 years ago and think about him just about every day. Carp Diem

[eriksale]

Thank you. We've at least got him home. In fact he came out to my office yesterday to get copies made for the stay at UC Davis. Moving a little slow dragging his tank around.

[eriksale]

Been meaning to get this done hope it all formats ok. I have listed all members of the "Dirty Thirty" from the squadron picture names are in order as in the picture.

Did picture quickly so had to be at a little angle so no reflection and it is too big to scan.

Be interesting to know if anybody here knows or served with any of theses pilots

Dave

PS How do I keep the format?

The Dirty Thirty
(Original)
Saigon, Vietnam
Apr 62 – Apr 63

Roster

Name Rank Hometown Note
Charles P. Barnett Maj San Bernardino, CA Sq Liaison
John Ford Capt Wayzata, MN
R.E. Nicholson Maj Fayettevile, N.C. Repl Barnett
W.R. Bunker III Capt Bartlett, TX K.I.A.
Robert R. Barnett Capt San Antonio TX
James W. Bender Capt Kansas City, MO Son of pilot-dad
William A. Blackburn LT Clovis, CA
Charles B. Coleman Capt Spokane, WA
Carl R. Erickson Capt Bellaire, TX My Dad
Joseph S. Grant Capt Washington D.C.
Dale E. Griffith Capt Brooklyn, Iowa
Freeman A. Hall Capt Floyd, VA
John A. Herschkorn Capt Thornwood, NY
Thomas J. Ingram Capt Detroit, Mich
Albert L. Jones Capt Detroit, Mich
William P. Kernan Capt New York, NY
Jack A. Kimball Capt Fraser, Mich
Lloyd P. King Capt Washington, D.C.
Tyrus R. Lewis Capt Cut Bank, MT
Zane L. Lantz Capt Mansfield, OH
Ken M. Maccammond Capt Conemaugh, PA
Ronald T. McCoy Capt Elkton, VA
Joseph W. McRae Capt Houston, TX
Eugene D. Moen Capt Belton, MO
Robeson B. Moise Capt Memphis, TN
Joe H. Obendorf Capt Parma, Idaho
Carter H. Phillips Capt San Antonio, TX
John D. Ritenour Capt Strasburg, VA
Ridley M. Stuart Capt Hibbing, Minn
Harold L. Sweet Capt Washington, D.C.
Robert E. Uptmor Capt New Orleans, LA
Frank M. Wallis Capt Upper Darby, PA
L.S. Waymouth Capt Bayton Rouge, LA

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