The Next Time a Right Winger Tells You How Great They Are, Show Them This...

[Arrow]

"Glad I took it because I can see how stats are manipulated daily." Pack

Exactly! Sis

ps. Was wonderng when the light was going to go on for someone, not surprised it was you.

[39mto39g]

"You know how the right wing Republicans are always so high and mighty about their alleged independence from the federal government" Ahhhhh No.
I went to FBI site to try to find 2006 crime statistics and couldn't find anything like what was posted. I guess if you throw out some figures and redirect and claim it is so, just how would that be rebutted? I would ask just what DEMOCRATIC site did your information come from?
It doesn't take a real genius to figure out that Obama would not be sitting in the white house if he was White. He is unqualified. He is black and so therefore Blooters voted for the Black guy. No other reason. A mind is a terrible thing.

Ron

[SuperScout]

Just answer the question I posed. It's really simple, so I'm almost certain that you can understand it. But if you don't want to answer it, I can understand that too. I certainly wouldn't want to be associated with a political party that embraced the likes of Jane Fonda, Billl Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and so many other traitors, but maybe you do.

[Gimpy]

Originally Posted by SuperScout

Just answer the question I posed. It's really simple, so I'm almost certain that you can understand it. But if you don't want to answer it, I can understand that too. I certainly wouldn't want to be associated with a political party that embraced the likes of Jane Fonda, Billl Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and so many other traitors, but maybe you do.

It's REAL "simple".


When YOU start attempting to show some semblance of a response to what the factual statistics have proven regarding the failure of republican leadership in these States (as well as nationally) and are clearly shown in the original post I made, then......and ONLY then will I see fit to respond to your continued attempts to "bait & switch" the subject mattter.

Whatzamatta.............Cat STILL got your tongue with regards to these "alarming" statistics about your political partys' piss-poor record?

Just asking.

Gimp

[Arrow]

Cautionary note about rankings

The ranks in some tables are based on estimates derived from a sample(s). Because of sampling and nonsampling errors associated with the estimates, the ranking of the estimates does not necessarily reflect the correct ranking of the unknown true values. Thus, caution should be used when making inferences or statements about the states' true values based on a ranking of the estimates. As an example, the estimated total (average, percent, ratio, etc.) for State A may be larger than the estimates for all other states. This does not necessarily mean that the true total (average, percent, ratio, etc.) for State A is larger than those for all other states. Such an inference typically depends on --among other factors-- the size of the difference(s) between the estimates in question, and the size of their associated standard errors.

In other tables, the ranks are based on a complete enumeration of the target population, or on complete administrative reporting from the population. In such cases, sampling is not used, and there is no sampling error component in the estimates. Still, care should still be taken when making inferences or statements based on the rankings. The table values may still exhibit nonsampling error originating from such sources as coverage problems (missing units or duplicates), nonresponse, misreporting, and others.

"There are lies, damned lies and statistics." ~ Mark Twin ~

[Arrow]

Would you please answer my previous post and explain why it is your job to decide what is in my best interest.?

"Talk about cleaning out your own barn. Is it really your job to decide what is in the best interest of me and my house?

If I were going to vote in my best interest I would vote for your socialist state. After all I'm a Veteran's Widow on a VA pension and Social Security on short time.

Instead I voted in the interest of my children, hard working kids that just want their government to allow them to live free from terror and taxation without representation, and stop robbing them of their future by loading them down with debt. "

"There are lies, damned lies and statistics." ~ Mark Twin ~

[phuloi]

Sis, He can`t. His vision is too short-sighted and narrow to oblige you with rebuttal. Gimpy`s no dummy-he knows when to hold `em and when to fold `em, but conversation with idealogues has always been next to impossible. Sorta like tryin to talk with a drunk. At any rate, and no matter how sincerely he and his dem buddies try to defend socialism, it will be interesting to witness the "change".

[Gimpy]

Originally Posted by Arrow

Would you please answer my previous post and explain why it is your job to decide what is in my best interest.?

"Talk about cleaning out your own barn. Is it really your job to decide what is in the best interest of me and my house?

If I were going to vote in my best interest I would vote for your socialist state. After all I'm a Veteran's Widow on a VA pension and Social Security on short time.

Instead I voted in the interest of my children, hard working kids that just want their government to allow them to live free from terror and taxation without representation, and stop robbing them of their future by loading them down with debt. "

"There are lies, damned lies and statistics." ~ Mark Twin ~

I never said "it was MY job" to decide what is in "your" best interest. You're a big girl, you should be able to figure that out yourself.

When I said, "Talk about cleaning out your own barn" I was making reference to those folks who continually harp and condemn the Obama administration for something that actually STARTED under George W. Bush and his republican administration who began the "bail-outs" of Wall Street and the banking industry?

Not to mention the unparalled and corrupt spending "spree" by his republican congress advanced by the likes of that bastion of right-wing "ethics"....Jack Abramhoff .....and GW Bush did not "VETO" of any of these "deficit" spending bills during the time the republicans held control of Congress.

You (and anyone else for that matter) are free to vote for whoever you please.

Just please don't FORGET where this crap started, and don't forget how your "votes" helped get us into the mess we're in now.

I don't necessarly agree with everything that the Obama administration has proposed either, but it sure AS HELL appears to be considerably more "in line" for what is "best for me & mine" than the previous 8 to 12 years under republican control.

Gimp

PS-----Griz----------that should aleviate any concern of yours with regards to my "folding", huh?

[Arrow]

Thanks for the reply Steve. Now you know I know better than to put the blame of this mess we are in on one administration, I was there via c-span when Barney Frank gave his assurances that there was no problem with Fanny and Freddie.

On the other hand you can bet my representatives heard from me not to vote for that first bail out. I was proud both of Democrats and Republicans that stood firm against it. The Democrats that stood against it had a good plan and I believe it would have worked but they were shut down. What a shame. I felt the same on this second go round. I was sick to my stomach and still am that folks that have this country's best interest at heart can't get a listen. We all know in our personal life that throwing' good money after bad is going to drive us into a ditch sooner or later.

I can look back over the last 40 years at the decisions we have made through Republican and Democratic administrations that ate away at our industrial and manufacturing base until about all we have left is service industries. We probably have more young people in the military that have a handle on the trades than in our civilian population. At one time a man that worked in the trades was looked up to and respected. Not so much any more. I remember my father in law saying we would not last long with only a service based economy.

"Big business, which is sending work offshore, doesn't seem overly concerned about our shrinking manufacturing base. I wonder how long it will take to bite them in the tail. Those higher paying industrial jobs are the ones that create the disposable income to buy their products." Jim Neumann, RB Royal Industries

I'm not sure I can cast another vote unless we have a third party arise that is strong enough to go up against the elite in both parties. Too much money floating around for the common folks to stand a chance. I'm pro-life and believe that the Republican party will fold on that stand within a few years. I would just as soon have that left to state legislatures letting the people of the state decide if they are for or against.

I won't forget 9-11 any more than my Uncles and Aunts forgot Pearl Harbor, nor the attack on our embassies, the Marines killed in Beirut and the sailors killed on the USS COLE. I appreciate so much the efforts of our previous Commander In Chief George W. Bush and our Military in keeping us from another attack on his watch.

However, it's my intention to register independent if only to cast a vote that probably will not count. It's necessary in my heart to honor all those that have paid the price for my right to cast a vote.

I believe most people in government on both sides of the isle care more about their agenda's than they do the everyday people. No one will ever be able to convince me that those in power on both sides of the isle did not see this economic crisis coming.

Millions of good hardworking people have had their dreams ripped away from them and are now being asked to give up more for those that will never appreciate the sacrifice. And the awe of it is they will put their heads down and get up and go to work and start to build again because that is who we are as a nation. God Bless America.

Arrow

[Packo]

was voted down by Republicans and 80+ right minded Democrats. (without the Democrats it would have passed) Pelosi and Reid went crazy. THEY wanted this package, as so did the President. I disagreed with Congresses spending for 8 years. After some changes, they...THE NEW DEMOCRAT LEAD CONGRESS voted it in. If they, the Democrat Lead Congress, wouldn't have wanted it, it wouldn't have happened. Let's not change history here. Except for the 2 wars we were fighting, I also was upset with the Republicans for their spending so I'm not defending them, but to say they are responsible for all this mess is historically inaccurate and it's getting worse. Don't forget, we were attacked on 9-11 and a ton of spending followed for Homeland Security and other realated projects. I don't blame Republicans or Democrats for that, it was needed. As of the other stuff....they are all at fault.

Pack