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Old 03-04-2005, 02:06 PM
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Default Support Our Troops? Ha...ha..ha!

You think Bush and his folks support our troops?

Maybe THIS will give you your answer!

American prisoners of war who were tortured in Iraq are finding out they have fewer legal rights than Iraqi prisoners later mistreated in the same place by American jailers.


For abused Iraqis, Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld has called for fair compensation(it's on the record, check it out if you don't believe me). What a court considers fair could be determined in a lawsuit filed against him by two human rights groups representing eight men believed tortured in Iraq and Afghanistan by U.S. troops.


Well guess what? In contrast, because of George Bush and his administration, 17 American airmen held prisoner in Iraq are getting nothing. They were shot down in the 1991 Gulf War, captured and inhumanly abused in Saddam Hussein's prisons. A federal judge initially awarded them $959 million from Saddam's Iraqi government.


The Bush administration appealed this decision in the U.S. Court of Appeals and argued that the new regime in Iraq wasn't responsible, doesn't sponsor terrorism and shouldn't have to pay. The conservative dominated U.S. appeals court agreed.


Can you believe that shit? Here we can send $80 billion, and then another $87 billion later to Iraq for THEIR improvements to their infrastructure; ie....hospitals, water treatment plants, power plants, roads and schools for God's sakes. But.........Bush and his cronies won't allow the American soldiers and Airmen (and women) any compensation that they rightfully won in a Court of Law!


The fact remains that these U.S. troops were illegally tortured while helping liberate Kuwait from the rapists and looters from Baghdad.


It is outrageous that what the Bush administration themselves call "unlawful combatants" of outlaw regimes can be compensated for being roughed up in jail, while the heroes of the free world who were captured while fighting to enforce a U.N. resolution and liberate Kuwait cannot.


These pilots should get fair compensation, either from Iraq's oil profits or from Congress itself. But..................NOT according to the Bush administration my friends.


Just one more example of their unrelenting and outrageous abandonment and mistreatment of our troops and veterans.
The folks in Bushs' administration feel the Iraqis' should be "compensated" for the treatment received at the hands of Americans, but NOT the Americans mistreated at the hands of the Iraqis'?????

Now that's what I call REAL "support of the troops" alright!

They should be run out of Washington on a freakin RAIL!
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Old 03-05-2005, 09:45 PM
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Cat got your tongues????
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Old 03-08-2005, 08:41 AM
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:34 AM
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THANKS AGAIN for The Democrat Party Line, even though such typical canned DNC or adnauseamly and overly-echoed rhetoric spouted, daily coming from you and the like and/or many other Democrats NEVER HAVING ANY SOLUTIONS FOR ANYTHING,...is to be expected.

Still, and perpetually politically deceiving, demoralizing, undermining, belittling and character assassinating any and all opposition towards Democrat Leftists: "Recapturing The White House" and all other positions of power and control in America, has become much more than just a-bit-annoying. Plus, YOU PEOPLE have become so-damn-obvious. Thanks again.

DURING WARTIME, the above realistic assessment of Democrat/Socialist/Leftists posing as Liberals ploys and deceits,...have gotten downright sickening.
Such is downright sickening whether perpetrated on The American Citizenry, American Troops or America's Veterans.

In essence, most all Democrat People Deceivers and/or Purposeful (for Selves & Clique) People Manipulators,...have pretty-much gotten OVERALL SICKENING & DISGUSTING,...mostly for America and The American People. All foreigners love such ilk.

Gimpy, have a nice day: "Ha - Ha -Ha".

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Old 03-08-2005, 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by reconeil THANKS AGAIN for The Democrat Party Line, even though such typical canned DNC or adnauseamly and overly-echoed rhetoric spouted, daily coming from you and the like and/or many other Democrats NEVER HAVING ANY SOLUTIONS FOR ANYTHING,...is to be expected.

Still, and perpetually politically deceiving, demoralizing, undermining, belittling and character assassinating any and all opposition towards Democrat Leftists: "Recapturing The White House" and all other positions of power and control in America, has become much more than just a-bit-annoying. Plus, YOU PEOPLE have become so-damn-obvious. Thanks again.

DURING WARTIME, the above realistic assessment of Democrat/Socialist/Leftists posing as Liberals ploys and deceits,...have gotten downright sickening.
Such is downright sickening whether perpetrated on The American Citizenry, American Troops or America's Veterans.

In essence, most all Democrat People Deceivers and/or Purposeful (for Selves & Clique) People Manipulators,...have pretty-much gotten OVERALL SICKENING & DISGUSTING,...mostly for America and The American People. All foreigners love such ilk.

Gimpy, have a nice day: "Ha - Ha -Ha".

Neil
Whathaf--- are you talkin about!

The "solution " is obvious as that right-wing, neo-nazi, radical supremacist nonsense that you continually spout and shout around here! :re:

BUSH & Co. should make sure these former American troops are given the monies $$$$$$$ they were rightfully awarded in the first place for Gods sake!

In your outrageous attempt to continually berate and undermine folks that may have a different political "persuasion" than YOU ............you have ONCE AGAIN -----FAILED (miserably I might add) to even mention or attempt to address the original post content of "support" for these individuals?????

But, then again................WHAT ELSE IS NEW, HUH?????
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I think the solution should be to have you banned from the boards for a while Gimpy. You post nothing but Inflammatory Rhetoric aimed at getting a rise out of the conservatives on this board. I've never seen you post anything else except your cut-and-paste invitations to an argument. I think that you must be classified as having a "Passive Agressive Personality Disorder".
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Old 03-09-2005, 09:55 PM
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Default Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

You may have something there Smurph!

It does appear that the "FACTS "............the "TRUTH "..........do tend to be ..........."inflamatory " and get a rise out of some of those folks
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Especially when they can't refute it with any authority! :cd:
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THANKS AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU, better than most fanatically obstructionist Democrat/Socialist/Leftists posing as Liberals, expose YOUR TRUE Colors and THE TRUE Allegiances of Democrat/Socialist/Leftists posing as Liberals,...BETTER THAN MOST.

Still, you and likes usually disgustingly and insultingly character assassinatings and underminings of all opposing Big Brother Democrats ARE ACTUALLY QUITE STUPID,...and especially during WARTIME.

If our enemies (and there are many) were also into dispensing medals and awards as are We Americans,...I honestly believe that you would be right at the top of The ACLU, DNC and/or all anti-American Underminers' list of recipients awarded such medals by our foreign enemies,...for great help, assistance and services rendered TO THEM.

Hey,...Gimpy. You wouldn't be alone at such a ceremony.
I'm sure that Moore, Churchill, Clintons, Kennedy, Kerry and many other anti-America and pro-Everything Foreign to America political zealots,...would be right there with you.

Regardless, and in fairness Gimpy, most other: "The Party is Supreme" or Big Brother type nationally-suicidal fools alluded to,...aren't nearly as honest of ACTUAL intent as you, even though no doubt done inadvertantly. Though, and in further fairness,...maybe other ilk like Churchill & Moore should be commended for their honesty of intent, also??

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Question ?????????????????????????????????

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

You STILL haven't addressed the issues presented in the original post.?????????????????????? :cd: :cd: :cd: :cd:

Is this a particular character defect of ALL neo-con, right-wing fanatical types like yourself???? The inability, or sub-conscious trait (more likely UN-conscience) of attacking and demeaning the individual(s) you are attempting to debate an issue with?????? Instead of trying to use facts and truth as your base for debated issues???? :cd:

Whoops!!!!!!!! I forgot.............you can't do that cause the F-A-C-T-S and the T-R-U-T-H are something that are totally foreign in nearly every position you've presented around here????? (And I'm sure elsewhere as well )

Since you rely so frequently on this adolescent, moronic and simply childish behavior like a great many others of your political "persuasion" I'm assuming that's the case this time as well, right?????


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In the aftermath of World War I, President Wilson warned against the reparations demanded by the greedy and vindictive French, Italians and Brits stating they only guaranteed another war. He was right and World War II was on the plate the moment he was ignored. Plus the grinding poverty these reparations caused gave a strong foothold to the then fledgling communists and let another evil genie out of the bottle that is still reaping a grim harvest to this day. US WWII Vets/former POWs have been trying to get reparations from Japan and Germany for decades but to no avail. No doubt the Korean and Vietnam Veterans have a case but I know of no litigation that is pending. The GWI abused former POWs probably have a case as well but will be standing in a long, long, line of litigants that include Iran, Kuwait, the Kurds, the Shiites, France, Germany, and Russia just to name a few. So I suppose Bush could ignore the sage advice given by Wilson and let the litigation storm loose. Or maybe the next US Pres will be inclined to litigate Iraq into oblivion but he or she would have to totally ignore historical realities and known results. I think Saddam Hussein said it best when he lamented, ?The line of those waiting to pick my bones clean is endless?. He is gone now but the line isn?t, not by a long shot.

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