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[39mto39g]

They just did a thing on Hazardous material. Sorry, don't beleive anything that was put out
The regulations that govern Haz Mat are first of all, different in each state, County and City. MSDS sheets (Material Saftey data sheets) are distributed to cities because of the city,state or county laws. There are 6 different classes just for explosives. some vehicles don't have to have a placard because of the number of lbs or gallons carried , a placard is that dimond shaped 1 foot by 1 foot card on the side of truck that has a number on it along with a classification. It would be so easy to distroy a chemical factory and kill 1,000s if not million of people down wind.
The chemical plants in Sugar Land have high expantion foam systems in there where house, 30 seconds and the entire wherehouse is full of foam. and it doesn't have to be a alarm that sets it off. There are chemicals the one part per 100 billion will kill you, you can't see 1 part in a 100 billion. .
When it comes to hazardous materials, Hears some advise, do not, I repeat , do not stay, do not beleive anyone, do not stop for police, even at the point of a gun, get you and your family as far away from what ever it is as possible. That sounds pretty drastic, well, let me tell you, Hazarous materials a as dangerous as anything you will ever run into and they come through your community every day. 99.9 persent of the time you should do just what a police officer tells you, but if you know its haz mat, leave, no matter what the officer says or does.
Ive talked to much.
Ron


Ps.
Hears another little tid bit of info, EVERY DAY, the chemical companies invent over 100 NEW chemicals that do not have a MSDS sheet and only the person who said "hay , I wander what I would get If I mixed these two chemicals with these two"knows what they are .

[Seascamp]

Ron, to my knowledge all Haz Mat, DOT rules and regs are Federal and not subject to optional State, County or City interpretation or application, or supposedly so. Same with EPA, Federal water quality standards, OSHA, NFPA specifications, etc. but where the rub comes in is in the area of enforcement and participation and that is where you have it defined, I?m thinking.

Example; we?re in a flux about illegal immigration and workers and well we should be. But I have personally seen home construction crews that are wildly out of control and that is the usual and normal situation, especially in California. I mean those crazy vatos run pneumatic nail guns with out any protection at all, handle really nasty solvents like acetone and carbon tetra chloride without the slightest degree of knowledge or protection; so long liver, time for a dirt nap.
They hop around on open rafters without safety harness; run power saws and tools with not an iota of knowledge or protection, are up on scaffolding that is totally outlaw, on and on. We?re talking slaughter alley, but at the same time I know OSHA has a regional office less than 50 miles away but seem to have eye trouble. I guess they can?t see themselves going to some construction sites that employ the border runners. On the other hand, they are all over legitimate employers who try to follow the rules and regs and then have perfect 20/20 vision and a hot running fine book.

In a formal business setting, OSHA would be all over a construction site or factory run like that, big time, and with fines running like a desert flash flood. Pick a big name petro-chem outfit, anyone in Galveston area and what will be universally found are exceptionally tight controls on Right to Know, MSDS, PPE, DOT requirements, NFPA specifications, NRTL specifications, EPA regs, on and on. Every time I go to any legitimate US plant, I?m required to take a haz mat refresher; usually about a 2 hour course plus exam, before I can so much as get in the gate.

One of the dark stats has to be the number of disabled, maimed, poisoned and dead illegals that are churned out each year but are a total unknown, totally undocumented and our 'oh so caring' politicos and left- brained clerics want it that way, boy howdy.

And a word to the wise, the most dangerous and toxic areas we encounter is our own kitchens and garages. Really toxic and nasty stuff is for sale in the local grocery store or hardware store that was industry outlawed over two decades ago. Stay well away from acetone or any cleaning product that claims to remove any spot, bad news killer stuff if there is prolonged skin contact. Never mix cleansers with ammonium hydroxide (bleach) , ya may get deadly chlorine gas as a result and that will be it, end of days.

Scamp

[39mto39g]

what comes to mind first is just 'No'
Haz mat is regulated by OSSA and EPA but that has to do with over the road. City regs are for business like Home Depot and there MSDS sheets.
Your kitchen ain't nothing as far as haz mat goes, you could drink draino and be ok. But try a little mercury. Chemist in a chemical company don't have epa standing over there shoulder when they mix chemicals and like I said the make over 100 NEW chemical concocksions every day.
although carbon tetrachloride is very dangerous it doesn't rate a highlight in the emergency response guidebook, there are over 500 chemicals that are far more dangeous such as carbonyl sulfide. The NRC is responcible when a spill occures. except for military shipments. Ive seen demonstrations where a Class A haz mat suit was melted on a dummy with just a gas cloud.
Im not sure what your point was but if you feel like staying around if a PD officer says stay, then Stay. We called the officers our Cop-i-logical monitor, when the cop goes in and dies then we should pull back more. and notify his kin.
Ron