Anti-War Protests are Back!

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Anti-war campaigners in US start to make their voices heard
By James Harding in Washington
Published: August 22 2003 20:10 | Last Updated: August 22 2003 20:10

The Chicago Coalition Against War and Racism marks the beginning of a new
season of anti-war protest on Saturday with a fresh message: "Bring the
troops home now!"

At the end of a week in which the bloodshed in Iraq has spread doubts
about the wisdom of President George W. Bush's "Bring 'em on" taunt to the
enemies of America, the anti-war lobby is embracing a slogan it thinks
will strike a chord with an increasingly anxious US public.

"We think it is outrageous that this country was lied to and now people
are risking their lives for a failed policy," says Andy Thayer of the
Chicago Coalition, the campaigning group that is organising a rally at the
city's Federal Plaza today.

Mr Thayer and many of his fellow marchers have been opponents of the war
in Iraq from the start.

However, the misgivings have spread in Middle America, as the focus has
shifted away from the principle of toppling a dictator to the reality of a
long-term deployment in a dangerous land.

An opinion poll published this month by the Pew Research Centre showed
those who said the military operation in Iraq was going very well falling
to 19 per cent from 61 in April.

Zogby International, another polling goup, put out a survey this week
showing Mr Bush's approval rating at 52 per cent, around the same as just
before the terrorist attacks of September 11 2001.

At its subsequent peak, his approval rating hit 82 per cent.

The White House struggled this week to match Mr Bush's portrayal of his
foreign policy achievements with the scenes of carnage in Iraq and Israel.

Mr Bush said just before he headed to Texas for a month that the US was
making progress in dismantling al-Qaeda, seeing advances in the Middle
East peace process, and said: "Conditions in most of Iraq are growing more
peaceful."

The terrorist attacks in Iraq and Israel on Tuesday, killing together
nearly 50 people and injuring more than 180, illustrated the risks
associated with the twinned ambitions of remaking Iraq and, in the
process, creating the conditions for a lasting settlement between the
Israelis and the Palestinians.

As the president begins to campaign for re-election on his record as a
strong leader on national security, the bomb attacks also demonstrated the
political risks for Mr Bush of choosing war in Iraq and putting himself at
the centre of the argument in the Middle East.

The deaths of two more US soldiers in Iraq yesterday, following the
bombing of the UN compound on Tuesday and an attack on the Jordanian
embassy earlier this month, have forced the White House to defend Mr
Bush's recent challenge to foreign terrorists seeping into Iraq and Saddam
Hussein loyalists.

Mr Bush said last month that the US military would not be daunted by
attacks: "Bring 'em on."

Scott McClellan, White House press secretary, said this week: "We would
much rather confront these terrorists abroad with the full might and force
of our military, than at home, here in America, with emergency medical
personnel and fire fighters."

General John Abizaid, who is in charge of US forces in Iraq, and Paul
Bremer, the de facto US viceroy in Iraq, voiced this same formulation -
that Iraq has become the chief and preferred theatre for fighting enemies
of the US.

They did not address the implications for Iraqi civilians.

In Chicago on Saturday, the organisers of the protest will be addressing
the dangers for US military personnel and others in Iraq. Parents of
soldiers returned from deployment in the Gulf will be talking about their
opposition to the war.

After the summer, a series of actions is planned for late September,
coinciding with demonstrations in Europe.

One of the main US mobilising groups - International Answer (Act Now to
Stop War and End Racism) - is organising a march on Washington on October
25, which it hopes will turn into a protest of tens of thousands of people
snaking through the US capital to the Pentagon.

"Charlie Wolf" wrote in message
news:ZWOIB9VJ37857.0776851852@Gilgamesh-frog.org...
>
>
http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentSe...=1012571727162
> _______________
> Anti-war campaigners in US start to make their voices heard
> By James Harding in Washington
> Published: August 22 2003 20:10 | Last Updated: August 22 2003 20:10
>
> The Chicago Coalition Against War and Racism marks the beginning of a new
> season of anti-war protest on Saturday with a fresh message: "Bring the
> troops home now!"
>
> At the end of a week in which the bloodshed in Iraq has spread doubts
> about the wisdom of President George W. Bush's "Bring 'em on" taunt to the
> enemies of America, the anti-war lobby is embracing a slogan it thinks
> will strike a chord with an increasingly anxious US public.
>
> "We think it is outrageous that this country was lied to and now people
> are risking their lives for a failed policy," says Andy Thayer of the
> Chicago Coalition, the campaigning group that is organising a rally at the
> city's Federal Plaza today.
>
> Mr Thayer and many of his fellow marchers have been opponents of the war
> in Iraq from the start.
>
> However, the misgivings have spread in Middle America, as the focus has
> shifted away from the principle of toppling a dictator to the reality of a
> long-term deployment in a dangerous land.
>
> An opinion poll published this month by the Pew Research Centre showed
> those who said the military operation in Iraq was going very well falling
> to 19 per cent from 61 in April.
>
> Zogby International, another polling goup, put out a survey this week
> showing Mr Bush's approval rating at 52 per cent, around the same as just
> before the terrorist attacks of September 11 2001.
>
> At its subsequent peak, his approval rating hit 82 per cent.
>
> The White House struggled this week to match Mr Bush's portrayal of his
> foreign policy achievements with the scenes of carnage in Iraq and Israel.
>
> Mr Bush said just before he headed to Texas for a month that the US was
> making progress in dismantling al-Qaeda, seeing advances in the Middle
> East peace process, and said: "Conditions in most of Iraq are growing more
> peaceful."
>
> The terrorist attacks in Iraq and Israel on Tuesday, killing together
> nearly 50 people and injuring more than 180, illustrated the risks
> associated with the twinned ambitions of remaking Iraq and, in the
> process, creating the conditions for a lasting settlement between the
> Israelis and the Palestinians.
>
> As the president begins to campaign for re-election on his record as a
> strong leader on national security, the bomb attacks also demonstrated the
> political risks for Mr Bush of choosing war in Iraq and putting himself at
> the centre of the argument in the Middle East.
>
> The deaths of two more US soldiers in Iraq yesterday, following the
> bombing of the UN compound on Tuesday and an attack on the Jordanian
> embassy earlier this month, have forced the White House to defend Mr
> Bush's recent challenge to foreign terrorists seeping into Iraq and Saddam
> Hussein loyalists.
>
> Mr Bush said last month that the US military would not be daunted by
> attacks: "Bring 'em on."
>
> Scott McClellan, White House press secretary, said this week: "We would
> much rather confront these terrorists abroad with the full might and force
> of our military, than at home, here in America, with emergency medical
> personnel and fire fighters."
>
> General John Abizaid, who is in charge of US forces in Iraq, and Paul
> Bremer, the de facto US viceroy in Iraq, voiced this same formulation -
> that Iraq has become the chief and preferred theatre for fighting enemies
> of the US.
>
> They did not address the implications for Iraqi civilians.
>
> In Chicago on Saturday, the organisers of the protest will be addressing
> the dangers for US military personnel and others in Iraq. Parents of
> soldiers returned from deployment in the Gulf will be talking about their
> opposition to the war.
>
> After the summer, a series of actions is planned for late September,
> coinciding with demonstrations in Europe.
>
> One of the main US mobilising groups - International Answer (Act Now to
> Stop War and End Racism) - is organising a march on Washington on October
> 25, which it hopes will turn into a protest of tens of thousands of people
> snaking through the US capital to the Pentagon.


Aloha Charlie,
Are you sure about this....? We've had several postings that the
anti-war movement is dead. Of course someone else mentioned awhile back
about Roctober....redvet

In article ,
Horvath wrote:

> "Judging from news reports . . . some might think my native Iraq was
> in a terrible mess. Not so," wrote Ayad Rahim in The Washington Times.

So why doesn't the Republican Propaganda Network (Fox) show Americans
the real story about the great life in Iraq? They talk about it. Let's
see pictures of the '100 Things' that are better in Iraq 100 days after
the illegal invasion.

Why doesn't preppy boy Bremer (the anti-terrorism expert) bring his
family over for a vacation? He lives in a palace now and Rummy says
Baghdad is safer than D.C.

> We have a "flypaper" strategy. It's working.

No, it's bullshit. It's a new attempt to justify Anglo-American murder
in Iraq months after it happened. All the old reasons are too ridiculous
to bring up anymore.

How long will it be before the nazi's in bushlite land declare them domestic
terrorists and go after them under the anti terrorist laws?

--
If you get what you want, what's to stop you
from asking for more?

"Charlie Wolf" wrote in message
news:ZWOIB9VJ37857.0776851852@Gilgamesh-frog.org...
>
>
http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentSe...=1012571727162
> _______________
> Anti-war campaigners in US start to make their voices heard
> By James Harding in Washington
> Published: August 22 2003 20:10 | Last Updated: August 22 2003 20:10
>
> The Chicago Coalition Against War and Racism marks the beginning of a new
> season of anti-war protest on Saturday with a fresh message: "Bring the
> troops home now!"
>
> At the end of a week in which the bloodshed in Iraq has spread doubts
> about the wisdom of President George W. Bush's "Bring 'em on" taunt to the
> enemies of America, the anti-war lobby is embracing a slogan it thinks
> will strike a chord with an increasingly anxious US public.
>
> "We think it is outrageous that this country was lied to and now people
> are risking their lives for a failed policy," says Andy Thayer of the
> Chicago Coalition, the campaigning group that is organising a rally at the
> city's Federal Plaza today.
>
> Mr Thayer and many of his fellow marchers have been opponents of the war
> in Iraq from the start.
>
> However, the misgivings have spread in Middle America, as the focus has
> shifted away from the principle of toppling a dictator to the reality of a
> long-term deployment in a dangerous land.
>
> An opinion poll published this month by the Pew Research Centre showed
> those who said the military operation in Iraq was going very well falling
> to 19 per cent from 61 in April.
>
> Zogby International, another polling goup, put out a survey this week
> showing Mr Bush's approval rating at 52 per cent, around the same as just
> before the terrorist attacks of September 11 2001.
>
> At its subsequent peak, his approval rating hit 82 per cent.
>
> The White House struggled this week to match Mr Bush's portrayal of his
> foreign policy achievements with the scenes of carnage in Iraq and Israel.
>
> Mr Bush said just before he headed to Texas for a month that the US was
> making progress in dismantling al-Qaeda, seeing advances in the Middle
> East peace process, and said: "Conditions in most of Iraq are growing more
> peaceful."
>
> The terrorist attacks in Iraq and Israel on Tuesday, killing together
> nearly 50 people and injuring more than 180, illustrated the risks
> associated with the twinned ambitions of remaking Iraq and, in the
> process, creating the conditions for a lasting settlement between the
> Israelis and the Palestinians.
>
> As the president begins to campaign for re-election on his record as a
> strong leader on national security, the bomb attacks also demonstrated the
> political risks for Mr Bush of choosing war in Iraq and putting himself at
> the centre of the argument in the Middle East.
>
> The deaths of two more US soldiers in Iraq yesterday, following the
> bombing of the UN compound on Tuesday and an attack on the Jordanian
> embassy earlier this month, have forced the White House to defend Mr
> Bush's recent challenge to foreign terrorists seeping into Iraq and Saddam
> Hussein loyalists.
>
> Mr Bush said last month that the US military would not be daunted by
> attacks: "Bring 'em on."
>
> Scott McClellan, White House press secretary, said this week: "We would
> much rather confront these terrorists abroad with the full might and force
> of our military, than at home, here in America, with emergency medical
> personnel and fire fighters."
>
> General John Abizaid, who is in charge of US forces in Iraq, and Paul
> Bremer, the de facto US viceroy in Iraq, voiced this same formulation -
> that Iraq has become the chief and preferred theatre for fighting enemies
> of the US.
>
> They did not address the implications for Iraqi civilians.
>
> In Chicago on Saturday, the organisers of the protest will be addressing
> the dangers for US military personnel and others in Iraq. Parents of
> soldiers returned from deployment in the Gulf will be talking about their
> opposition to the war.
>
> After the summer, a series of actions is planned for late September,
> coinciding with demonstrations in Europe.
>
> One of the main US mobilising groups - International Answer (Act Now to
> Stop War and End Racism) - is organising a march on Washington on October
> 25, which it hopes will turn into a protest of tens of thousands of people
> snaking through the US capital to the Pentagon.
>
>
>

"Perry Marlin" wrote in message
news:et2ikvks25rl688s0fl5fgaqn20npclbn0@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 1444 GMT, "meport"
> wrote:
>
> >How long will it be before the nazi's in bushlite land declare them
domestic
> >terrorists and go after them under the anti terrorist laws?
>
>
> man that is one stupid comment.
>
Hi Perry

I have found that people start saying things like this when they find out
they were wrong all along and now have to start changing their beliefs. As
long as one can argue I am right and you are wrong no matter what the real
truth is or facts they don't have to change. They can be very afraid that
every thing they believed in was and is false, and like most they will fight
rather than hear or understand anything you may have to say that will
disprove them.

Mike

"Perry Marlin" wrote in message
news:et2ikvks25rl688s0fl5fgaqn20npclbn0@4ax.com
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 1444 GMT, "meport"
> wrote:
>
>> How long will it be before the nazi's in bushlite land declare them
>> domestic terrorists and go after them under the anti terrorist
laws?
>
> man that is one stupid comment.

Oy, and from meport you were expecting?