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The truth will out......
Bush under oath
.................................... http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_021804A.shtml The Family Steering Committee believes that President Bush should provide sworn public testimony to the full ten-member panel of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States . Collectively, the Commissioners are responsible for fulfilling the Congressional mandate. Therefore, each Commissioner must have full access to the testimony of all individuals and the critical information that will enable informed decisions and recommendations. Before an audience of the American people, the Commission must ask President Bush in sworn testimony, the following questions: -- "I’m very reluctant to ascribe thought to George Bush beyond anything he actually says, and even then, I don’t often believe him. I don’t know what’s in his heart. He says he has a good heart, he’s a good man. Let him think that if he wants. I’m interested in the results of his policies. We don’t call him a liar in this book. We don’t ever say he’s lying, because we don’t know what he’s thinking. We don’t know what his consciousness is. I do think that a man [that] tells us over and over again, “I’m 100 percent positive they have WMDs.” And then instead of saying, “Oh I’m wrong and I’m sorry,” says “I’m 100 percent sure they have weapons of mass production” -- whatever that phrase was, isn’t someone who’s primary concern is that he always is scrupulous to the truth... That’s a kind of giveaway. But I really couldn’t give a shit what Bush thinks or feels. I care what the results for the country are." --Eric Alterman |
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Re: The truth will out......
>Subject: The truth will out......
>From: "Oklahoma Joe" ok-no-spam@okie.net The truth will out. Hey Joe you've been outed. Your getting paid for posting only anit Bush in a form that looks like an editorial. They aint real editorials and you know it. You have no regards for FAQs of the newsgroups where you are posting but prostitute anything for a buck. I'm sure if you knew anything about Vietnam you would post it here but that not your mission is it Joe. To anyone who follows me to one of Joe's post may I suggest you kilfile him or all you will see later are the same diatribe. |
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Re: The truth will out......
"DLovick195" news:20040219174505.09014.00000010@mb-m14.aol.com... > >Subject: The truth will out...... > >From: "Oklahoma Joe" ok-no-spam@okie.net > > The truth will out. Hey Joe you've been outed. Your getting paid for posting > only anit Bush in a form that looks like an editorial. They aint real > editorials and you know it. You have no regards for FAQs of the newsgroups > where you are posting but prostitute anything for a buck. > > I'm sure if you knew anything about Vietnam you would post it here but that > not your mission is it Joe. To anyone who follows me to one of Joe's post may > I suggest you kilfile him or all you will see later are the same diatribe. Sorry, as others here have noted...there is no FAQ for this news group... except for a clever satire. -redvet, who enjoys most of the okies commentary |
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>Subject: Re: The truth will out......
>From: "redvet" redvet@l >except for a clever satire. -redvet, who enjoys most of the okies >commentary Where Joes' commenary? He's stickly cut ' paste. He mimics the people who spam your mailbox with " you can be 3" longer in 30 days" They spew spam for the dollars and the same with Joe. I don't mind ligitemate debate but Joe's a parasite. |
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Re: The truth will out......
"DLovick195" news:20040220124528.19340.00000067@mb-m16.aol.com... > >Subject: Re: The truth will out...... > >From: "redvet" redvet@l > > >except for a clever satire. -redvet, who enjoys most of the okies > >commentary > > Where Joes' commenary? He's stickly cut ' paste. > > He mimics the people who spam your mailbox with " you can be 3" longer in 30 > days" > > They spew spam for the dollars and the same with Joe. I don't mind > ligitemate debate but Joe's a parasite. I don't know, I've been accused of the same 'spam for the dollars' too... the reality is that no one is gonna pay someone to post this stuff on the internet. Joes stuff is fairly informative. True the Smirkingchimp.com has a sharper edge (Bush bashing alert! Bush Bashing Alert!) but Joe's stuff has a broader view. He also provides a clever cross section of the popular media. From the beginning of his posts he, aleast, never claimed we would find the dreaded "Weapons of Mass Destruction" - redvet |
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Re: The truth will out......
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 2155 -1000, "redvet"
> >"DLovick195" >news:20040220124528.19340.00000067@mb-m16.aol.com... >> >Subject: Re: The truth will out...... >> >From: "redvet" redvet@l >> >> >except for a clever satire. -redvet, who enjoys most of the okies >> >commentary >> >> Where Joes' commenary? He's stickly cut ' paste. >> >> He mimics the people who spam your mailbox with " you can be 3" longer >in 30 >> days" >> >> They spew spam for the dollars and the same with Joe. I don't mind >> ligitemate debate but Joe's a parasite. > >I don't know, I've been accused of the same 'spam for the dollars' too... >the reality is that no one is gonna pay someone to post this stuff on the >internet. Joes stuff is fairly informative. True the Smirkingchimp.com has >a sharper edge (Bush bashing alert! Bush Bashing Alert!) but Joe's stuff has >a broader view. He also provides a clever cross section of the popular >media. From the beginning of his posts he, aleast, never claimed we would >find the dreaded "Weapons of Mass Destruction" - redvet > No he didn't but, he did and since you like cut & Paste Here ya go June 2003 Kerry Said It Would Be Irresponsible To Draw Conclusions That Suggest President Misled On WMD. ABC’S GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I know you said you’re agnostic about whether or not he misled the public on weapons of mass destruction. But do you have a hunch on whether you think they hyped the intelligence?KERRY: George, again, I think it would be irresponsible of me at this point to draw conclusions prior to all the evidence being on the table.(ABC’s This Week,6/15/03) March 2003 As War Began, Kerry Said Saddam Chose To Make Military Force The Ultimate Weapons Inspections Enforcement Mechanism. Senator John F. Kerry had lambasted Bush’s diplomatic efforts, despite voting last fall in support of a congressional resolution authorizing military action to disarm Iraq of any weapons of mass destruction. ‘It appears that with the deadline for exile come and gone, Saddam Hussein has chosen to make military force the ultimate weapons inspections enforcement mechanism,’ Kerry said. (Glen Johnson, Critics Of Bush Voice Support For The Troops, The Boston Globe, 3/20/03) Kerry Said Saddam Hussein’s WMD Are A Threat.I think Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction are a threat, and that’s why I voted to hold him accountable and to make certain that we disarm him. I think we need to (NPR’s All Things Considered, 3/19/03) February 2003 Kerry Said Leaving Saddam Hussein Unfettered With Nuclear Weapons Or Weapons Of Mass Destruction Is Unacceptable. (Jill Lawrence, War Issue Challenges Democratic Candidates, USA Today, 2/12/03) Kerry Described Secretary Of State Colin Powell’s Evidence Of WMD In Iraq As Real And Compelling.[Kerry] said the Bush administration has taken too long to make its case for military action, ‘but nonetheless I am glad we’ve reached this moment in our diplomacy.’ Kerry added: ‘Convincing evidence of Saddam Hussein’s possession of weapons of mass destruction should trigger, I believe, a final ultimatum from the United Nations for a full, complete, immediate disarmament of those weapons by Iraq. Over the next hours, I will work with my colleagues in the Senate to fully examine the evidence offered by the secretary for a complete and close reading. But, on its face, the evidence against Saddam Hussein appears real and compelling. (Wayne Washington, Kennedy, Others Question Timing Of Attack But Presidential Hopefuls Back War With Iraq, The Boston Globe, 2/6/03) January 2003 Kerry Said, If You Don’t Believe Saddam Hussein Is A Threat With Nuclear Weapons, Then You Shouldn’t Vote For Me. (Ronald Brownstein, On Iraq, Kerry Appears Either Torn Or Shrewd, Los Angeles Times, 1/31/03) Kerry Described Threat Of Saddam Hussein With WMD As Real, But Not New. [W]e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. He miscalculated an eight-year war with Iran. He miscalculated the invasion of Kuwait. He miscalculated America’s response to that act of naked aggression. He miscalculated the result of setting oil rigs on fire. He miscalculated the impact of sending scuds into Israel and trying to assassinate an American President. He miscalculated his own military strength. He miscalculated the Arab world’s response to his misconduct. And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Georgetown University, Washington, DC, 1/23/03) October 2002 Mr. Kerry Said Iraq’s Weapons Of Mass Destruction Posed ‘A Real And Grave Threat’ To The United States. (Dave Boyer, Key Senators Of Both Parties Back Bush On Iraq War, The Washington Times, 10/10/02) Kerry Questioned Saddam’s Actions With Respect To His WMD Capability. Why is Saddam Hussein pursuing weapons that most nations have agreed to limit or give up? Why is Saddam Hussein guilty of breaking his own cease-fire agreement with the international community? Why is Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don’t even try, and responsible nations that have them attempt to limit their potential for disaster? Why did Saddam Hussein threaten and provoke? Why does he develop missiles that exceed allowable limits? Why did Saddam Hussein lie and deceive the inspection teams previously? Why did Saddam Hussein not account for all of the weapons of mass destruction which UNSCOM identified? Why is he seeking to develop unmanned airborne vehicles for delivery of biological agents? Does he do all of these things because he wants to live by international standards of behavior? Because he respects international law? Because he is a nice guy underneath it all and the world should trust him? (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 10/9/02, p. S10171) Kerry Called It Naive To The Point Of Grave Danger To Leave Saddam To His Own Devices.It would be naive to the point of grave danger not to believe that, left to his own devices, Saddam Hussein will provoke, misjudge, or stumble into a future, more dangerous confrontation with the civilized world. (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 10/9/02, p. S10171) Kerry Said Threat Of Saddam Hussein With Weapons Of Mass Destruction Is Real.The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation. (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 10/9/02, p. S10171) Kerry: I Am Prepared To Hold Saddam Hussein Accountable And Destroy His Weapons Of Mass Destruction. (Ronald Brownstein, Democratic Presidential Hopefuls Differ On War In Iraq, Los Angeles Times, 10/6/02) September 2000 Kerry Said There Is Nothing More Destabilizing Or Threatening [To The World] Than Weapons Of Mass Destruction.I think all of us are deeply concerned about the degree to which certain countries seem to be contributing to the potential of instability in the world. Obviously, there is nothing more destabilizing or threatening than weapons of mass destruction. We have spent an enormous amount of time and energy focused on Iraq, on Iran, on Russia, on loose nukes, on nuclear materials, and of course on China and on the issue of the transfer of technology to Pakistan. (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 9/11/00, p. S8321) December 1998 Kerry Defended Clinton’s 1998 Attacks Because Saddam Is Pursuing Weapons Of Mass Destruction.Americans need to really understand the gravity and legitimacy of what is happening with Saddam Hussein. He has been given every opportunity in the world to comply. The president does not control the schedule of UNSCOM. The president did not withdraw the UNSCOM inspectors. And the president did not, obviously, cut a deal with Saddam Hussein to do this at this moment. Saddam Hussein has not complied. Saddam Hussein is pursuing a program to build weapons of mass destruction.(Sen. John Kerry, Press Conference, 12/16/98) September 1998 Kerry Said, ‘We’re Going To Have To Make Some Fundamental Decisions About Whether To Follow A Policy Of Containment Or Deprive Iraq Of Its Weapons Of Mass Destruction. (Eric Schmitt, U.N. Arms Inspector Who Quit Is Told He Can’t Make Policy, The New York Times, 9/4/98) February 1998 Kerry Said Saddam Had Already Used WMD And Had Intent To Do So Again. [T]here are set of principles here that are very large, larger in some measure than I think has been adequately conveyed, both internationally and certainly to the American people. Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. That is a threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It is a threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East. (Sen. John Kerry, Press Conference, 2/23/98) Kerry Said That If Saddam’s Weapon Capability Was Not Eliminated We Will Be Called On To Send Our Ships And Our Troops At One Point In The Future Back To The Middle East.Saddam Hussein has violated that standard [against using weapons of mass destruction] on several occasions previously and by most people's expectation, no matter what agreement we come up with, may well do so again. The greater likelihood is that we will be called on to send our ships and our troops at one point in the future back to the Middle East to stand up to the next crisis.(Sen. John Kerry, Press Conference, 2/23/98) December 1997 Kerry Urged U.N. To Eliminate Iraq’s Suspected Infrastructure For Developing And Manufacturing Weapons Of Mass Destruction.Democratic Senator John Kerry has said: ‘The Security Council should authorize a strong UN military response that will materially damage, if not totally destroy, as much as possible of the suspected infrastructure for developing and manufacturing weapons of mass destruction.’ He added that ‘Saddam Hussein has intentionally or inadvertently set up a test which the entire world will be watching, and if he gets away with this arrogant ploy, he will have terminated the most important multilateral effort to defuse a legitimate threat to global security. (US Lawmakers Threaten Military Action Against Iraq, Agence France Presse, 12/12/97) November 1997 Kerry Warned U.S. Senate Of Saddam’s WMD Capabilities. It is not possible to overstate the ominous implications for the Middle East if Saddam were to develop and successfully militarize and deploy potent biological weapons. We can all imagine the consequences. Extremely small quantities of several known biological weapons have the capability to exterminate the entire population of cities the size of Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. These could be delivered by ballistic missile, but they also could be delivered by much more pedestrian means; aerosol applicators on commercial trucks easily could suffice. If Saddam were to develop and then deploy usable atomic weapons, the same holds true. (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 11/9/97, pp. S12254 -S12255) January 1991 Kerry Acknowledged Saddam Working Toward Development Of WMD For Years.If we go to war in the next few days, it will not be because our immediate vital interests are so threatened and we have no other choice. It is not because of nuclear, chemical, biological weapons when, after all, Saddam Hussein had all those abilities or was working toward them for years .... (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 1/12/91, p. S369) October 1990 Kerry Said Iraq Has Developed A Chemical Weapons Capability.Today, we are confronted by a regional power, Iraq, which has attacked a weaker state, Kuwait. ... The crisis is even more threatening by virtue of the fact that Iraq has developed a chemical weapons capability, and is pursuing a nuclear weapons development program. And Saddam Hussein has demonstrated a willingness to use such weapons of mass destruction in the past, whether in his war against Iran or against his own Kurdish population.(Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 10/2/90, p. S14330) Ken 11Bravo |
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Re: The truth will out......
"redvet"
news:103e17pfl0bab4e@corp.supernews.com... > > "DLovick195" > news:20040220124528.19340.00000067@mb-m16.aol.com... > > >Subject: Re: The truth will out...... > > >From: "redvet" redvet@l > > > > >except for a clever satire. -redvet, who enjoys most of the okies > > >commentary > > > > Where Joes' commenary? He's stickly cut ' paste. > > > > He mimics the people who spam your mailbox with " you can be 3" longer > in 30 > > days" > > > > They spew spam for the dollars and the same with Joe. I don't mind > > ligitemate debate but Joe's a parasite. > > I don't know, I've been accused of the same 'spam for the dollars' too... Aahh C'mon red - no-one's accused you of being a paid spammer. On the other hand, you have been accused of being an ex-felon, less than honorably discharged, wannabe anti-imperialist, liar who falsely claimed that his incarceration in the Oklahoma Penitentiary was due to "anti war related activities". Nigel Brooks |
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"Nigel Brooks" news:c1819h$1eherp$1@ID-74999.news.uni-berlin.de... > "redvet" > news:103e17pfl0bab4e@corp.supernews.com... > > > > "DLovick195" > > news:20040220124528.19340.00000067@mb-m16.aol.com... > > > >Subject: Re: The truth will out...... > > > >From: "redvet" redvet@l > > > > > > >except for a clever satire. -redvet, who enjoys most of the okies > > > >commentary > > > > > > Where Joes' commenary? He's stickly cut ' paste. > > > > > > He mimics the people who spam your mailbox with " you can be 3" > longer > > in 30 > > > days" > > > > > > They spew spam for the dollars and the same with Joe. I don't mind > > > ligitemate debate but Joe's a parasite. > > > > I don't know, I've been accused of the same 'spam for the dollars' too... > > > Aahh C'mon red - no-one's accused you of being a paid spammer. On the other > hand, you have been accused of being an ex-felon, less than honorably > discharged, wannabe anti-imperialist, liar who falsely claimed that his > incarceration in the Oklahoma Penitentiary was due to "anti war related > activities". > > Nigel Brooks > > |
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"Nigel Brooks" news:c1819h$1eherp$1@ID-74999.news.uni-berlin.de... > "redvet" > news:103e17pfl0bab4e@corp.supernews.com... > > > > "DLovick195" > > news:20040220124528.19340.00000067@mb-m16.aol.com... > > > >Subject: Re: The truth will out...... > > > >From: "redvet" redvet@l > > > > > > >except for a clever satire. -redvet, who enjoys most of the okies > > > >commentary > > > > > > Where Joes' commenary? He's stickly cut ' paste. > > > > > > He mimics the people who spam your mailbox with " you can be 3" > longer > > in 30 > > > days" > > > > > > They spew spam for the dollars and the same with Joe. I don't mind > > > ligitemate debate but Joe's a parasite. > > > > I don't know, I've been accused of the same 'spam for the dollars' too... > > > Aahh C'mon red - no-one's accused you of being a paid spammer. On the other > hand, you have been accused of being an ex-felon, less than honorably > discharged, wannabe anti-imperialist, liar who falsely claimed that his > incarceration in the Oklahoma Penitentiary was due to "anti war related > activities". > > Nigel Brooks Aloha Nigel, As I mentioned to Bill when he claimed I was receiving a subsidy, 'please explain what for and how much' . Now I recall your claim that you could FOIA any D.D.214 including mine. So please explain my "less than honorably discharged". Mine clearly indicates "Honorable" - college bennies, buy the house, thank you note from Nixon, you know, the usual stuff. Sadly I have "been accused " of lots of nefarious activities. Here's your opportunity make up for your lapse of intelligence during Tet of '68 (or more currently, your brothers and sisters 'oops', with Weapons of Mass Destruction) with your review of my undistinguished military record. - redvet who has never been convicted of a fragging...but is an "Outlaw" (http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/) |
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Re: The truth will out......
redvet wrote:
> "Nigel Brooks" > news:c1819h$1eherp$1@ID-74999.news.uni-berlin.de... > > "redvet" > > news:103e17pfl0bab4e@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > > "DLovick195" > > > news:20040220124528.19340.00000067@mb-m16.aol.com... > > > > >Subject: Re: The truth will out...... > > > > >From: "redvet" redvet@l > > > > > > > > >except for a clever satire. -redvet, who enjoys most of the okies > > > > >commentary > > > > > > > > Where Joes' commenary? He's stickly cut ' paste. > > > > > > > > He mimics the people who spam your mailbox with " you can be 3" > > longer > > > in 30 > > > > days" > > > > > > > > They spew spam for the dollars and the same with Joe. I don't mind > > > > ligitemate debate but Joe's a parasite. > > > > > > I don't know, I've been accused of the same 'spam for the dollars' > too... > > > > > > Aahh C'mon red - no-one's accused you of being a paid spammer. On the > other > > hand, you have been accused of being an ex-felon, less than honorably > > discharged, wannabe anti-imperialist, liar who falsely claimed that his > > incarceration in the Oklahoma Penitentiary was due to "anti war related > > activities". > > > > Nigel Brooks > > Aloha Nigel, As I mentioned to Bill when he claimed I was receiving a > subsidy, 'please explain what for and how much' . Now I recall your claim > that you could FOIA any D.D.214 including mine. So please explain my "less > than honorably discharged". Mine clearly indicates "Honorable" - college > bennies, buy the house, thank you note from Nixon, you know, the usual > stuff. Sadly I have "been accused " of lots of nefarious activities. Here's > your opportunity make up for your lapse of intelligence during Tet of '68 > (or more currently, your brothers and sisters 'oops', with Weapons of Mass > Destruction) with your review of my undistinguished military record. - > redvet who has never been convicted of a fragging...but is an "Outlaw" > (http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/) I think everyone can consider the source redvet...... -- |
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