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Old 09-21-2004, 09:33 AM
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"Remember 9/11"!?(both ways)
September 21, 2004

No matter whether sensible Republicans, Conservatives, Libertarians, Independents or the like, all must admit that The DNC and/or politically-fanatical Democrats, Leftists, Socialists, foreign favoring capitulators or whatever,...truly know their stuff.

Being age old masters of purposeful and diversionary deceptions and deceit, "The Darlings of The Press" can usually and quite easily convince most of The Electorate, in that even actually proven truths showing Democrats in a bad light, aren't worthy of being publically discussed,...EVEN DURING WARTIME. Whereas, and even during wartime, "Bush Bashings" and/or perpetually undermining A Wartime Commander-In-Chief are always quite worthy of openly discussing to the entire world. Truly a quite mindless National Shame.

Best current example of IMPORTANT CREDIBILITY ISSUES being shoved-under-the-rug by America's journalistic(?) double standard crowd, while giving the quite suspect of intent ACLU/Fonda/Clintons/Kennedy/Kerry Party A BREATHER are:..."Guardgate", "Burkettgate" and/or Memogate, or "Rathergate". It just doesn't seem mattering to The Press that this latest: "Bush Bashing" or character assassinating was political-ochestrated, bogus and done purposefully for political gain by diverting attention during a campaign? Hey,...when it comes to deceipts and deceptions,...Dems surely know their stuff and/or how best keeping Kerrygate out of the limelight.

No longer is Kerry's quite suspect and overwhelmingly disputed SELF VERIFIED "Rambo"-like 3-4 month Tour of Duty in Vietnam RIGHTFULLY dissected and/or picked-apart: "For The People".
No longer are Kerry's Fonda-like and/or MANY MORE American Casualty causing years RIGTHFULLY emphasized: "For The People".
Most in The Press/Media pompously, arrogantly and apparently believe that such TRULY IMPORTANT MATTERS should be kept under-the-rug till after The Election,...or forever.

Maybe what's needed here in America for a change instead of the typical journalist political BS prevailing, is getting back into that old time sloganeering mode?
"Remember The Alamo" once worked quite well against Mexico.
"Remember The Maine" once worked quite well against Spain.
"Remember Pearl Harbor" once worked quite well against the murderous and rapist Imperial Japs.

So then, I figure that all: "UN-Connected" Americans should now be chanting in unison: "Remember 9/11". Certainly couldn't hurt. In fact, such rallying might help defeat terrorists and/or the worst and most fanatical enemies America has ever confronted,...and also might even help unite our largely Democrat Machine orchestrated and/or politically-purposeful divided nation?

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Old 09-23-2004, 08:11 PM
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Default We Will NEVER??? Forget.

I don't know...seems like many HAVE forgotten.

Don't get me started!!!
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Old 09-24-2004, 10:51 AM
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Please do get: "STARTED"!!!...(plus others also).
After November might be too late!

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Old 09-24-2004, 08:04 PM
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This is a wonderful tribute to 9/11. (Turn on speakers)

http://www.marklarose.com/alwaysremember.htm
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Old 09-24-2004, 09:05 PM
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Thanks for the link, Jerry...very thought provoking.
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You cover a lot of ground Neil and I think you are on to a syndrome that is noteworthy. I personally don?t think the vast majority of Americans have forgotten about 9/11, but rather, I think it?s a matter of people not knowing what to do with the dark cloud that hangs over us. I believe that the gut wrenching politicizing of 9/11 from the get-go has had the effect of forcing 9/11 thoughts into the highly polarized political arena. This in turn has had the effect of diluting and or abrogating what should be a unifying cause. In essence, people who believe in political party ?A? may feel obligated to subscribe to interpretation ?X?, while those of political party ?B? will feel pressed to buy into interpretation ?Y?. In the meantime, the enemy is jabbing away at the fissure in between and successfully so I?m afraid. As well, I do not believe the enemy has any equivocation at all as to what they are about, not one iota, and sooner or later we will have to come to understand that basic reality.

As to the media, well, they are being challenged right now and we?ll have to see where all that ends up. It was just a bit ago that a former CBS employee wrote a book about the bias within CBS and at that time Dan Rather had a tizzy fit, denounced the author and book with all manner of righteous indignation, huffing, puffing, pissing and moaning. Hmmm, maybe he protestith too much, eh. Alas, the information age is upon us and a classic example is Howard Dean and his early successes. The Deaniean movement was a product of the Internet, almost exclusively. Then one day, squish, he was done for and it was the media, in unison, that did the squishing. How dare anyone press forward without getting kissing the right media butts, right?
Presently, I?m getting a few grins and hoots watching MSNBC?s Chris Mathews squirm and bristle at the allegations that he and his producers are exceedingly biased. Now he protestith too much as well I think and maybe ?Memogate? is having a pond ripple effect and some are grabbing for higher ground lest they be pitched in the abyss of doubt and be eaten by the much feared erosion of credability and ratings.

Maybe I?m an old sea barnacle but one lesson I learned from my Skipper in Vietnam simply went, ?If we get hit, I don?t want to hear anything but hitting back?, and that works, trust me on that one. The buggers knew what was coming next if they popped their heads up and thusly gave us a wide path. So given that background, I have to admit to being highly biased on what our course of action should be. But that's just me, eh.

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Old 09-25-2004, 04:27 PM
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Old 09-26-2004, 12:32 PM
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Can't help but realizing that we're (others here also) certainly on the same page regarding The Attack on America and everything that America Stands for (America's Leftists excluded). Your words like: "Forgotten", "Polarized political arena", "Enemy jabbing away at fissure" and other unarguable truths,...most certainly proves that to me.

Still, and as to The Media, isn't it truly a shame and too bad for America that "They" won't, can't or just refuse to inform The People accordingly and/or what You, I and undoubtedly MANY OTHER: "UN-Connected" to Politics or Political Press/Media, honestly know to be sensible, realistic, quite likely and obvious occuring,...whether today, tomorrow or future, and especially during wartime

The People deserve better from Political Representatives(???) or Political Journalists(???). Hell, from: "Political Reprentatives(???)",The People should RIGHTFULLY & RIGHTEOUSLY DEMAND BETTER!!!,...and especially during wartime since The People aren't PRIVY to Private Planes or Bunkers for escape and safety reasons, AS ARE most high officials in government.

Scamp, even regarding warfare we see eye to eye,...since apparently realizing that NO ONE in World History ever achieved TOTAL VICTORY by being on: "Alert", defensively; "Circling the wagons" or negotiating with the enemy and/or caving-into the enemy controlled UN DEMANDS. Politically micro-managing the finest military on earth, also doesn't help. Hitler certainly proved that factual and historical reality. America has also proven "It" for about 60 YEARS.

James Woods the actor stated it best with words to the effect that: "Want to defeat the worst, vicious and most murderous enemy America has ever faced"? "Then just kill the terrorist bastards FASTER and in MUCH GREATER volume,...than 'They' can kill you".

Guess it's fair saying that Old Jimmy Boy knows his s - - t.
Whatever,...Mr. Woods most certainly SHOULD NOT BE in any way shape or form confused with those rich folks in Hollywood, which most Veterans logically and rightfully consider being nothing more than enemy supportive and America undermining assholes.

Wonder what such Dishonorable Hollywood Fools think of my: "Pornography or Politics??" comparison? Most certainly had such Notable ("Rich & Famous" also) America Underminers alluded to in mind, while writing the piece/post.

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Old 09-26-2004, 05:31 PM
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Why can't something be done about the fact that we aren't informed unbiasly?

In one of my posts, I said that America needs to hear from YOU. "YOU" beingmilitary personnelwho seem to have moreACCURATEinside information andthose who have been in the trenches...You guys have valuable information that WE need to hear. You need a voice and a vehicle.

You know, some of the people who are againstIraqi Freedomare right in one way. They say they disagree with HOW the war began. So do I. If we had busted their a** the first time we were denied access for inspection, we would have been much more effective. But then, we didn't have the right guy in charge at the time.

Saddam reminded of that stupid little chihuahua on the other side of fence, barking for all he's worth at the great big doberman who can't get to him. I don't know much about warfare and strategy...but man, I wish we had gone in there and blown them away - like I know we could. Why play with them like a cat with a mouse? That big ole doberman says, "Just give me 2 seconds to break the little b******'s neck."
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GREAT ANALOGY!!!

After all, it's unarguable that America's Political Leaders and/or The U.S. Military's micro-managers and ACTUAL Supreme High Command, have acted like the fenced off doberman of your analogy...for about 60 YEARS. Pretty-much just the opposite of Teddy Roosevelt's quite sound: "Walk softly and carry a Big stick" wise advice.

Over that time MUCH American Blood was lost,...without ONCE (Grenada excluded) achieving TOTAL VICTORY against the enemy.

Regarding: "...informed unbiasedly?" question,...you're asking the wrong guy about that. Old: "TOTALLY Honest Neil" has been trying to do just that publicly,...for more time than I would embarassingly care to admit. Guess I'm just not herdlike echoing, good enough, or too-damn-boring???

Plus, and even though as honest as it gets, apparently my most always displayed irreverence towards my political or journalistic betters,...makes my words unworthy and not public acceptable?

Tina "Baby", maybe if I wrote less sarcastic and biting (another good analogy my: "Pornography or Politics??") and instead wrote more tongue-in-cheek,...I and other Americans might stand a better chance at getting into print?

Though, I could never do that. TOO MANY political-correctness caused American Civilian Casualties and U.S. Military Casualties over the years ARE NOTHING TO JOKED ABOUT,...or NOTHING TO BE POLITICALLY DEBATTED ABOUT, as usually done daily by politicians and journalists.

After all, isn't that what pompous and lordly fools like some: "Political Representatives(???)" and "Political Journalists(???)" normally do most every day of their lives? How high does The American Body Count (both military and civilian) have to be, before America fights back as viciously and tenaciously as our QUITE differently, QUITE ironically......QUITE UNITED ENEMY.

To all Muslim Murderous Terrorists the only warfare politics or Rules of Engagement followed or adhered to, are to kill AS MANY American infidels (civilian men, women and children inclusive),...AS IS PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE. So then,...should such bastards be protected by The American Citizenry's Constitutional Rights? I sure-as-hell-don't-believe-so...FOOLS.

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