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Old 02-13-2004, 02:23 PM
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Default Dubya was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972.

http://www.democraticunderground.com.../13_guard.html


For example, what if, rather than being grounded for missing a physical
as the terse report we have all seen suggests, George W. was grounded
for some other reason, such as an arrest? It would not be unusual for a
guardsman to be suspended for being arrested, especially for certain
types of offenses. It would also not be terribly unusual for the son of
a prominent politician who was grounded verbally for being arrested to
be afforded the courtesy of having his record reflect only the somewhat
less embarrassing fact that he failed to take a required physical
examination.

What if, then, George H. W. Bush used his political clout to convince
Dubya's judge that instead of jail time, Little George should be
enrolled in a community service program? What if Bush I, seeing the
conflict this substantial time commitment would have on Dubya's ability
to complete his Guard requirements, saw to it that in addition to being
absolved of criminal wrongdoing, Bush II's service would count toward
his TANG commitment as well?

And, just for fun, let's imagine what would happen to our picture of
this flawed but fundamentally honest man if we found out that Bush had
sent his campaign people to Texas in the late 90's to destroy any
records that might prove this story to be accurate. How do you think
that would go over with the Wyoming, Colorado and Montana families who
comprise Dubya's most ardent base?

Soon, and very soon, we'll be able to stop wondering, because the
foregoing description isn't hypothetical at all. It's exactly what
happened. Three different sources told James Hatfield in 1998 that Dubya
was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972. Dubya's 1972 stint at the
community service organization, Project PULL, is still advertised in the
President's bio on the State Department website in what I can only
imagine is a gross oversight by the White House Truth Department.

The reason Bush got retirement credit and pay for service in 1972
despite the fact that his superiors on the military bases to which he
was assigned never saw him is because he was not training at an Air
Force Base but spending time in a community center with underprivileged
children, working off his coke arrrest. And the story of Bill Beckett,
who saw the trashed remains of Lieutenant Bush's service record in a
military trash can, confirms the purge was the work of Bush staffers,
working with the complicity of high-ranking Guard officers.

When this story hits the web, there will no doubt be ample Freeper
hoards ready to descend upon me for using Hatfield's book as the source
for my claim that Bush was arrested for cocaine possession in '72.
Hatfield, I stipulate, was a troubled and unstable man who tried to blow
up his boss in the 1980's and who committed suicide in a hotel room last
year. Hatfield himself is not much of a source.

However, Hatfield's sources are vouched for by his editors at Soft Skull
Press, and as I'm a faithful and grateful Soft Skull reader myself,
that's good enough for me. Soft Skull picked the book up and did a run
of it after Hatfield's original publisher was forced, under heavy
pressure from the same folks who trashed Bush's National Guard record,
to burn the fruits of Fortunate Son's first printing. If the wing nuts
want to accuse Soft Skull of some kind of dishonesty, they can be my
guests, but I would urge them to read a few Soft Skull titles first, so
that they can familiarize themselves with what they are attacking. I am
quite sure the exercise would do the Dittoheads some good.

This article isn't up to my usual standards of hilarity and
self-abasement, and of that I am acutely aware. I wish I could now go
back, as I normally do, and insert some jokes. But the House of Groom is
in a highly active state at the moment, executing and preparing and
planning all kinds of crazy projects and adventures. I don't have the
time to break the most important news story of the year AND tell you the
one about what Dick Cheney does on Valentine's Day.

So for now, you'll just have to be satisfied with the scoop.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
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Old 02-13-2004, 03:22 PM
Outbackbob
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Default Re: Dubya was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972.

I don't think Kerry will go there.
The kind of crowd he hanged with after he returned was nothin but a bunch of
dope smoking, coke snortin, acid freaks.
Wanna bet more than a few of those phony vets can be found to verify that?



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Old 02-13-2004, 03:37 PM
Darsh
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Default Re: Dubya was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972.

That article does not even come close to saying what you state in your
subject line. The guy makes a hypothetical and you immediately call it
truth?

That is no very sound thinking. In reality, the article says many good
things about President Bush. It NEVER accuses him of being busted for
cocaine possession.

darsh

"Truth Squad" wrote in message
news:QTPIRFW338030.9749074074@anonymous.poster...
> http://www.democraticunderground.com.../13_guard.html
>
>
> For example, what if, rather than being grounded for missing a physical
> as the terse report we have all seen suggests, George W. was grounded
> for some other reason, such as an arrest? It would not be unusual for a
> guardsman to be suspended for being arrested, especially for certain
> types of offenses. It would also not be terribly unusual for the son of
> a prominent politician who was grounded verbally for being arrested to
> be afforded the courtesy of having his record reflect only the somewhat
> less embarrassing fact that he failed to take a required physical
> examination.
>
> What if, then, George H. W. Bush used his political clout to convince
> Dubya's judge that instead of jail time, Little George should be
> enrolled in a community service program? What if Bush I, seeing the
> conflict this substantial time commitment would have on Dubya's ability
> to complete his Guard requirements, saw to it that in addition to being
> absolved of criminal wrongdoing, Bush II's service would count toward
> his TANG commitment as well?
>
> And, just for fun, let's imagine what would happen to our picture of
> this flawed but fundamentally honest man if we found out that Bush had
> sent his campaign people to Texas in the late 90's to destroy any
> records that might prove this story to be accurate. How do you think
> that would go over with the Wyoming, Colorado and Montana families who
> comprise Dubya's most ardent base?
>
> Soon, and very soon, we'll be able to stop wondering, because the
> foregoing description isn't hypothetical at all. It's exactly what
> happened. Three different sources told James Hatfield in 1998 that Dubya
> was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972. Dubya's 1972 stint at the
> community service organization, Project PULL, is still advertised in the
> President's bio on the State Department website in what I can only
> imagine is a gross oversight by the White House Truth Department.
>
> The reason Bush got retirement credit and pay for service in 1972
> despite the fact that his superiors on the military bases to which he
> was assigned never saw him is because he was not training at an Air
> Force Base but spending time in a community center with underprivileged
> children, working off his coke arrrest. And the story of Bill Beckett,
> who saw the trashed remains of Lieutenant Bush's service record in a
> military trash can, confirms the purge was the work of Bush staffers,
> working with the complicity of high-ranking Guard officers.
>
> When this story hits the web, there will no doubt be ample Freeper
> hoards ready to descend upon me for using Hatfield's book as the source
> for my claim that Bush was arrested for cocaine possession in '72.
> Hatfield, I stipulate, was a troubled and unstable man who tried to blow
> up his boss in the 1980's and who committed suicide in a hotel room last
> year. Hatfield himself is not much of a source.
>
> However, Hatfield's sources are vouched for by his editors at Soft Skull
> Press, and as I'm a faithful and grateful Soft Skull reader myself,
> that's good enough for me. Soft Skull picked the book up and did a run
> of it after Hatfield's original publisher was forced, under heavy
> pressure from the same folks who trashed Bush's National Guard record,
> to burn the fruits of Fortunate Son's first printing. If the wing nuts
> want to accuse Soft Skull of some kind of dishonesty, they can be my
> guests, but I would urge them to read a few Soft Skull titles first, so
> that they can familiarize themselves with what they are attacking. I am
> quite sure the exercise would do the Dittoheads some good.
>
> This article isn't up to my usual standards of hilarity and
> self-abasement, and of that I am acutely aware. I wish I could now go
> back, as I normally do, and insert some jokes. But the House of Groom is
> in a highly active state at the moment, executing and preparing and
> planning all kinds of crazy projects and adventures. I don't have the
> time to break the most important news story of the year AND tell you the
> one about what Dick Cheney does on Valentine's Day.
>
> So for now, you'll just have to be satisfied with the scoop.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
> The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
> is unverified.
>
>



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Old 02-13-2004, 03:42 PM
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"Truth Squad" wrote in message
news:QTPIRFW338030.9749074074@anonymous.poster...
> http://www.democraticunderground.com.../13_guard.html


> And the story of Bill Beckett,


Bill Burkett, Lt.Col. Ret.

A GREAT AMERICAN, btw.


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Old 02-13-2004, 03:56 PM
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"Darsh" wrote in message
news:ycdXb.29459$jk2.69042@attbi_s53...
> That article does not even come close to saying what you state in your
> subject line. The guy makes a hypothetical and you immediately call it
> truth?


why not?

bush made a hypothetical about WMD and you guys all bought it, hook line and
stinker.......



> That is no very sound thinking. In reality, the article says many good
> things about President Bush. It NEVER accuses him of being busted for
> cocaine possession.
>
> darsh
>
> "Truth Squad" wrote in message
> news:QTPIRFW338030.9749074074@anonymous.poster...
> > http://www.democraticunderground.com.../13_guard.html
> >
> >
> > For example, what if, rather than being grounded for missing a physical
> > as the terse report we have all seen suggests, George W. was grounded
> > for some other reason, such as an arrest? It would not be unusual for a
> > guardsman to be suspended for being arrested, especially for certain
> > types of offenses. It would also not be terribly unusual for the son of
> > a prominent politician who was grounded verbally for being arrested to
> > be afforded the courtesy of having his record reflect only the somewhat
> > less embarrassing fact that he failed to take a required physical
> > examination.
> >
> > What if, then, George H. W. Bush used his political clout to convince
> > Dubya's judge that instead of jail time, Little George should be
> > enrolled in a community service program? What if Bush I, seeing the
> > conflict this substantial time commitment would have on Dubya's ability
> > to complete his Guard requirements, saw to it that in addition to being
> > absolved of criminal wrongdoing, Bush II's service would count toward
> > his TANG commitment as well?
> >
> > And, just for fun, let's imagine what would happen to our picture of
> > this flawed but fundamentally honest man if we found out that Bush had
> > sent his campaign people to Texas in the late 90's to destroy any
> > records that might prove this story to be accurate. How do you think
> > that would go over with the Wyoming, Colorado and Montana families who
> > comprise Dubya's most ardent base?
> >
> > Soon, and very soon, we'll be able to stop wondering, because the
> > foregoing description isn't hypothetical at all. It's exactly what
> > happened. Three different sources told James Hatfield in 1998 that Dubya
> > was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972. Dubya's 1972 stint at the
> > community service organization, Project PULL, is still advertised in the
> > President's bio on the State Department website in what I can only
> > imagine is a gross oversight by the White House Truth Department.
> >
> > The reason Bush got retirement credit and pay for service in 1972
> > despite the fact that his superiors on the military bases to which he
> > was assigned never saw him is because he was not training at an Air
> > Force Base but spending time in a community center with underprivileged
> > children, working off his coke arrrest. And the story of Bill Beckett,
> > who saw the trashed remains of Lieutenant Bush's service record in a
> > military trash can, confirms the purge was the work of Bush staffers,
> > working with the complicity of high-ranking Guard officers.
> >
> > When this story hits the web, there will no doubt be ample Freeper
> > hoards ready to descend upon me for using Hatfield's book as the source
> > for my claim that Bush was arrested for cocaine possession in '72.
> > Hatfield, I stipulate, was a troubled and unstable man who tried to blow
> > up his boss in the 1980's and who committed suicide in a hotel room last
> > year. Hatfield himself is not much of a source.
> >
> > However, Hatfield's sources are vouched for by his editors at Soft Skull
> > Press, and as I'm a faithful and grateful Soft Skull reader myself,
> > that's good enough for me. Soft Skull picked the book up and did a run
> > of it after Hatfield's original publisher was forced, under heavy
> > pressure from the same folks who trashed Bush's National Guard record,
> > to burn the fruits of Fortunate Son's first printing. If the wing nuts
> > want to accuse Soft Skull of some kind of dishonesty, they can be my
> > guests, but I would urge them to read a few Soft Skull titles first, so
> > that they can familiarize themselves with what they are attacking. I am
> > quite sure the exercise would do the Dittoheads some good.
> >
> > This article isn't up to my usual standards of hilarity and
> > self-abasement, and of that I am acutely aware. I wish I could now go
> > back, as I normally do, and insert some jokes. But the House of Groom is
> > in a highly active state at the moment, executing and preparing and
> > planning all kinds of crazy projects and adventures. I don't have the
> > time to break the most important news story of the year AND tell you the
> > one about what Dick Cheney does on Valentine's Day.
> >
> > So for now, you'll just have to be satisfied with the scoop.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
> > The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
> > is unverified.
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 02-13-2004, 07:00 PM
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References:
Posted by: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Truth Squad)

> what if [...] George W. was grounded
>for [...] an arrest?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly?

Jones
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Old 02-13-2004, 07:03 PM
Darsh
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"Beserker!!!" wrote in message
news:c0jvm1$84c$1@pita.alt.net...
>
> "Darsh" wrote in message
> news:ycdXb.29459$jk2.69042@attbi_s53...
> > That article does not even come close to saying what you state in your
> > subject line. The guy makes a hypothetical and you immediately call it
> > truth?

>
> why not?


Whay not? Because that is not sound thinking is why not.

>
> bush made a hypothetical about WMD and you guys all bought it, hook line

and
> stinker.......


Who bought what?

darsh

>
>
>
> > That is no very sound thinking. In reality, the article says many good
> > things about President Bush. It NEVER accuses him of being busted for
> > cocaine possession.
> >
> > darsh
> >
> > "Truth Squad" wrote in message
> > news:QTPIRFW338030.9749074074@anonymous.poster...
> > > http://www.democraticunderground.com.../13_guard.html
> > >
> > >
> > > For example, what if, rather than being grounded for missing a

physical
> > > as the terse report we have all seen suggests, George W. was grounded
> > > for some other reason, such as an arrest? It would not be unusual for

a
> > > guardsman to be suspended for being arrested, especially for certain
> > > types of offenses. It would also not be terribly unusual for the son

of
> > > a prominent politician who was grounded verbally for being arrested to
> > > be afforded the courtesy of having his record reflect only the

somewhat
> > > less embarrassing fact that he failed to take a required physical
> > > examination.
> > >
> > > What if, then, George H. W. Bush used his political clout to convince
> > > Dubya's judge that instead of jail time, Little George should be
> > > enrolled in a community service program? What if Bush I, seeing the
> > > conflict this substantial time commitment would have on Dubya's

ability
> > > to complete his Guard requirements, saw to it that in addition to

being
> > > absolved of criminal wrongdoing, Bush II's service would count toward
> > > his TANG commitment as well?
> > >
> > > And, just for fun, let's imagine what would happen to our picture of
> > > this flawed but fundamentally honest man if we found out that Bush had
> > > sent his campaign people to Texas in the late 90's to destroy any
> > > records that might prove this story to be accurate. How do you think
> > > that would go over with the Wyoming, Colorado and Montana families who
> > > comprise Dubya's most ardent base?
> > >
> > > Soon, and very soon, we'll be able to stop wondering, because the
> > > foregoing description isn't hypothetical at all. It's exactly what
> > > happened. Three different sources told James Hatfield in 1998 that

Dubya
> > > was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972. Dubya's 1972 stint at the
> > > community service organization, Project PULL, is still advertised in

the
> > > President's bio on the State Department website in what I can only
> > > imagine is a gross oversight by the White House Truth Department.
> > >
> > > The reason Bush got retirement credit and pay for service in 1972
> > > despite the fact that his superiors on the military bases to which he
> > > was assigned never saw him is because he was not training at an Air
> > > Force Base but spending time in a community center with

underprivileged
> > > children, working off his coke arrrest. And the story of Bill Beckett,
> > > who saw the trashed remains of Lieutenant Bush's service record in a
> > > military trash can, confirms the purge was the work of Bush staffers,
> > > working with the complicity of high-ranking Guard officers.
> > >
> > > When this story hits the web, there will no doubt be ample Freeper
> > > hoards ready to descend upon me for using Hatfield's book as the

source
> > > for my claim that Bush was arrested for cocaine possession in '72.
> > > Hatfield, I stipulate, was a troubled and unstable man who tried to

blow
> > > up his boss in the 1980's and who committed suicide in a hotel room

last
> > > year. Hatfield himself is not much of a source.
> > >
> > > However, Hatfield's sources are vouched for by his editors at Soft

Skull
> > > Press, and as I'm a faithful and grateful Soft Skull reader myself,
> > > that's good enough for me. Soft Skull picked the book up and did a run
> > > of it after Hatfield's original publisher was forced, under heavy
> > > pressure from the same folks who trashed Bush's National Guard record,
> > > to burn the fruits of Fortunate Son's first printing. If the wing nuts
> > > want to accuse Soft Skull of some kind of dishonesty, they can be my
> > > guests, but I would urge them to read a few Soft Skull titles first,

so
> > > that they can familiarize themselves with what they are attacking. I

am
> > > quite sure the exercise would do the Dittoheads some good.
> > >
> > > This article isn't up to my usual standards of hilarity and
> > > self-abasement, and of that I am acutely aware. I wish I could now go
> > > back, as I normally do, and insert some jokes. But the House of Groom

is
> > > in a highly active state at the moment, executing and preparing and
> > > planning all kinds of crazy projects and adventures. I don't have the
> > > time to break the most important news story of the year AND tell you

the
> > > one about what Dick Cheney does on Valentine's Day.
> > >
> > > So for now, you'll just have to be satisfied with the scoop.
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
> > > The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
> > > is unverified.
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



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Old 02-13-2004, 07:16 PM
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In article <6o3r20h79mjocc3oenlt9mshjgjrustnuo@4ax.com>,
swsm1th@hotmail.com says...
> References:
> Posted by: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Truth Squad)
>
> > what if [...] George W. was grounded
> >for [...] an arrest?

>
> What if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly?
>
> Jones
>

Nah. You're thinking of the Rosenbergs.
and that's "fry" not "fly".

n

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Old 02-13-2004, 07:17 PM
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"m.e.nicholas" <1@2.3> wrote in message
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> In article <6o3r20h79mjocc3oenlt9mshjgjrustnuo@4ax.com>,
> swsm1th@hotmail.com says...
> > References:
> > Posted by: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Truth Squad)
> >
> > > what if [...] George W. was grounded
> > >for [...] an arrest?

> >
> > What if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly?
> >
> > Jones
> >

> Nah. You're thinking of the Rosenbergs.
> and that's "fry" not "fly".
>

For flying you need the Walenda's

--

Don Thompson

"The only stupid questions are those that should have been asked, but
weren't, or those that have been asked and answered over and over, but the
answers not listened to." Peter Rowe



> n
>



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Old 02-14-2004, 04:21 AM
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:00:29 -0600, !Jones
wrote:

>References:
>Posted by: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Truth Squad)
>
>> what if [...] George W. was grounded
>>for [...] an arrest?

>
>What if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly?
>
>Jones



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