One-Third of Federal Work Force May Quit ... ( let's discuss this ! )

[MORTARDUDE]

I am a federal government worker as are others here. About 30%+ of the total workers are nearing 55, retirement age under the old retirement system that was abolished in 1984 ( myself included ). The push to convert civil service jobs to private types has many pitfalls. Where this thread was posted everybody said things like, "don't let the door hit you on the way out", "who would miss them".....etc. They don't realize they keep electing politicians who dish out the pork and this requires civil servants to maintain the programs. On top of this no one...repeat NO ONE, now knows how many contractors work for the government. estimates are as high as 10,0000,000 vs. 2,000,000 or so civil servants....the whole question is a big can of worms.....what say you ????


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ederal_workers

One-Third of Federal Work Force May Quit
Wed Mar 26, 4:28 AM ET Add Politics - AP to My Yahoo!


By JONATHAN D. SALANT, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - More than one-third of federal employees say they are thinking about leaving their jobs as the Bush administration considers allowing private industry to bid for more government work, a survey shows.



While most federal workers like their jobs and say pay and benefits are OK, 35 percent of respondents said they might leave anyway. Critics of the administration's policy said the workers fear that their jobs won't be around.


"Basically, you might like your job but you might not have your job for another year," said Paul Light, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and professor of public service at New York University. "There's a lot of anxiety in the federal government."


Kay Coles James, director of the federal Office of Personnel Management, said the survey did not look at whether efforts to shift government jobs to the private sector were causing some employees to consider quitting. But she acknowledged that the findings were a "red flag" for the agency.


More than 100,000 federal workers answered OPM questionnaires for the survey released Tuesday, the largest such sampling ever taken. They represented more than half of the 200,000 surveys sent to government employees.


The survey found that 56 percent of workers were very pleased with their pay and 63 percent were happy with benefits. A 1998-99 OPM survey of private companies found just 44 percent of employees were satisfied with their pay.


But fewer than half of the federal workers ? 41 percent ? said outstanding employees receive timely recognition. Only 27 percent said disciplinary steps are taken against workers who can't or won't do their jobs, and just 36 percent said their agencies' leaders motivated employees.


The margin of error for the survey was plus or minus 5 percentage points.


James said the survey was among the tools being used to find ways to attract and retain quality workers. "Our goal is for the federal government to be a world-class employer," she said.


Diane Witiak, spokeswoman for the American Federation of Government Employees, said the Bush administration's interest in shifting many federal jobs to the private sector contributed to so many people saying they are considering leaving their jobs.


"Employees are leaving the federal government because it is perceived to be an employer that is determined to privatize as many services as possible, no matter the critical nature of the work or the ultimate higher costs to taxpayers," she said.


In response, OPM officials pointed to survey findings that 66 percent felt their agencies could do as well as any private company, and 60 percent felt their agencies were good places to work.


Last fall, President Bush (news - web sites) proposed rules to make it easier for private companies to bid on maintenance, construction, secretarial and other jobs. And in June, Bush quietly signed an executive order stripping air traffic controllers of guaranteed government jobs, though officials said there were no plans to turn those positions over to the private sector.


In addition, at White House insistence, workers in the new Homeland Security Department were not given the same civil service protections as other federal employees. Officials said they needed flexibility to change assignments to respond to terror threats.


Citing the new Homeland Security Department as an example, an independent commission chaired by former Federal Reserve (news - web sites) Chairman Paul Volcker recommended in January that other federal departments should be reorganized and receive more flexibility to hire, fire and promote workers.


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[David]

I think it is a bad idea to contract out federal work. First off there will never be the control in hiring practices there is in the federal sector for civilian workers and this will lead to security problems. Secondly when work is contracted to quick thinking and often times greedy civilian contractors we end up paying $5000.00 a piece for things such as claw hammers. I grew up on military bases all of my life and now I have lived in the civilian world for the last 12 years and must say the military way of life, work ethics, duty, and justice is far superior to the civilian way of life. Call me a Spartan, just don't let civilians get their hands too deep in the pot or there will soon not be a pot to piss in.

[39mto39g]

A few years ago there was a big push to privetize Fire service.
We all were in shock untill we added up all the different types of services we deliver, Fire fighting, EMS, Hazardous materials, Heavy rescue, High angle rescue, Dive team operations, Public education as well as firefighter contiuning education, retierment plans and pention plans. When we added all those things into the equasion, the privet sector had no chance of competeing.

We live in a free enterprise system, My advise to you is do some research on what it is you deliver for your pay and sell yourself.
If you find that what you do can be done by privet sector cheeper than expand what you do for the tax dollar untill the privet sector can't compete.

As a firefighter I can tell you that anyone can pick up a hose and stand outside and fight fire, and if that was all we did than our jobs would have gone privet.

As a Tax Payer I want to get the most for my $.

Ron