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Old 08-20-2006, 11:59 AM
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SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT . . .

The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000, or 20% of the world population.
http://cgi.stanford.edu/group/wais/c...dex.php?p=4824

They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz.

Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat

Physics:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewail

Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad

The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000, or about 0.02% of the world population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charle s Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abra ham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis

The Jews are NOT demonstrating with their dead on the streets, yelling and chanting and asking for revenge; the Jews are NOT promoting brain washing the children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non-Muslims.

The Jews DON'T hijack planes, nor KILL athletes at the Olympics; the Jews DON'T traffic slaves, NOR have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

The Jews DON'T have the economic strength of petroleum, NOR the possibilities to force the world's media to see "their side" of the question.

Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in 'standard education' and less in blaming the Jews for all THEIR problems.
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Old 08-20-2006, 01:29 PM
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The Jews, specifically the Zionists, have a big handicap but are survivors. The Fascists, Communists, Islamofasists, and now the US Liberals and our MSM want them erased form this earth and that is a mega handicap.
But I reckon as how they are too smart, feisty, independent and combative for the control freaks, and aren?t about to go into the chambers again like a bunch of dumb sheep.

Islam suffers from self-inflected wounds. Their control freaks do not allow for the fulfillment of human potential, no frigging way, so at the end of the day they get what they got and can only sustain by culling out their population and enslaving the gullible or the vanquished. Centuries in the making and oceans of blood spilled and all they have achieved is grinding poverty and a fatalistic, suicidal, culture that externalizes and hates everything. Oh happy day, huh.

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I have long contended that absent the discovery of oil in the Middle East, that intellectual and aesthetic backwater would still be wallowing in their 13th century sandbox. They would still be having tribal wars over a water hole, still acquiring their wives via barter and opportunism (wait, they're still doing that!), and still be cooking their butchered goat over camel-dung fires. A country or a culture is gauged by what accomplishments they leave behind, looking back several generations into the past. For this reason today, the phrase "the greatest generation" aptly describes those fading warriors who stood in the breach, who stemmed the tide, who wrapped their collective arms around decent civilization and protected them. No such phrase or contribution can be found in all Islam.
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Arabs make up less than half the world's Muslims.
Bangledesh, Indonesia, Turkey, North Africa, the Balklands contain more Muslims than the Arab nations.

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But it wasn?t always so, Col. Whilst most of our ancestors were cocooned in the dark ages the Arabic people were the cutting edge and gate keepers of science, medicine and art. Algebra is actually Al Gebra; ?the joining? in Arabic, and they invented that stuff. But once the control freaks grabbed hold that was it, all back full at max turns. Part of the Sunni Whabbi belief system is that nothing is to change from 950 AD, nothing.
Our mutual ancestors, the Celtics, had no known written language but various artifacts provide very strong evidence that they knew their stuff but kept it secret and subsequently, it all went missing.

Fast forward, one would think that the State that has the most prestigious Engineering school in the US, MIT, couldn?t possibly create a colossal engineering boondoggle and national embarrassment like the ?Big Dig?. But there it is, and yet another rendition of ?the brave new world? and control freaks controlling everything and nothing, to the detriment of all.

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Now the PC must think that Nobel was a Jew. Score; 7 for the Muslim team, 127, Jewish team. How about the statistic that for every Iraqi soldier or Allied force killed in Iraq by the Muslim Jihadist Al Queda there are 50 Muslims killed. Iraqi and Allied Forces kill no where near as many Muslims as the Jihad does. Who's the real Muslim enemy to the Muslims in the Middle East?
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Certainly there was something that devolved from the Muslim world since int inception, and I didn't mean to imply that they have contributed nothing. Linking with your thoughts, the reality check needed is that nothing has been done since then, all because of fundamentalism. When their religion was hijacked by the fundamentalists, the moderates sat on their collective hands, lest those same hands, along with those same heads be removed forcibly. As you so succinctly pointed out, the Wahabbi adopted a no-prisoners policy long ago, and that includes their own apostates.
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EXCELLENT POINT MADE!!!!!!!!!

Still, isn't it just too bad that both The Muslim World
and non-Muslim World don't even give such
an Honorable Mention,...even though truly dishonorable?

Hell,...both A-A-Arab and Western Press/Media act
as if your EXCELLENT POINT MADE ....MUST be kept
some dirty-little-secret,...lest painting Islam as MURDEROUS HYPOCRITS.
Ditto-ditto Western & Middle East Leader type fools.

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No one wants to hear me, get out of Iraq, nuke it, nuke Iran, Nuke Syria, Nuke any other Muslim nation that has intent on killing or harming us or our allies. Screw world opinion. Good thing I'm not the commander in Cheif, we would be out of the UN, and I would do what I said nuke em till they glow.
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