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Old 07-24-2003, 05:34 PM
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Mexican-Americans in Texas want to use a word other than ?massacre? to describe an incident in which Mexican forces shot hundreds of Texans, burned their bodies and left the remains to vultures because it is insensitive to their ancestors, reports the New York Times. [We can only hope that this report was not written by Jayson Blair, the poster child of what happens when Diversity if practiced instead of excellence.]

The activists from Goliad, Texas, where more than 300 Texas rebels were killed by Mexican troops in 1836 in what has been known as the Goliad Massacre (search), would prefer the word ?execution? because the soldiers were merely carrying out orders. Benny Martinez, president of Goliad's chapter of the League of United Latin American Citizens (search), said Anglos in town continue to use the word because they "still hate Mexicans and using 'massacre' is a subtle way for them to express it." [If Senor Martinez is so prescient to know that we 'still hate' them, why doesn't he know that we really give a rat's ass what he thinks? Is he proposing to change all the history books, so that his little group doesn't "feel" bad? It was a massacre we Anglos got over it by kicking the shit out of the Mexican Army at San Jacinto. Next time, Benny, get a better general!]
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Old 07-24-2003, 11:05 PM
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My responce to such individuals is that if they are American citizens. Why are they worried what a incident in 1836 ( that was perpetuated by the Mexican Government and its Army) Is called today ?? And by the way we don't like to be called Anglo's we prefer American
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As a TOTAL American, I personally don't give a-rat's-ass what any half-assed American and/or hyphenated Americans think about their preferred foreign cultures. I figure that since THIS is The Country that I give sole allegiance to and prefer,...The Partime Americans should simply move to where "They" prefer, and leave the rest of us Full Time Americans alone.

Though SS,...people trying to change America and its history to foolishly show places ESCAPED FROM as being more favorable than America,...IS AS ASININE AS IT GETS in my eyes.

Still, and in fairness to the apparent lovers of those countries that once subjugated and executed them,...We TOTAL Americans apparently aren't too bright either. After all, and as no other country on earth does, We TOTAL Americans are perpetually caving-in (to rulers' dictates) to every individual race (White excluded), foreign ethnicity and diversity that comes-down-the-pike,...which IS ALSO JUST AS ASININE AS IT GETS(if not more so).

Neil, an un-hyphenated (ASININE Subject also) American.
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Old 07-25-2003, 01:06 PM
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OK so shall we call the Fort Pillow Massacre the Fort Pillow Executions. How does the Boston Execution sound? Its bunk, its hooey!! Tell them to get a life. What about the St. Valentine's Day Execution. That has ring to it!

I HATE Political Correctness!!!

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Old 07-25-2003, 02:35 PM
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I Suppose All The Victims Of The Holocaust Were "Executed"
Because The Soldiers Were Just Obeying Orders? Execution indicates that the victims deserved to die because of some crime. Massacre indicates that innocent folks were killed. A Big Difference! This certainly is PC going Amuck!

However, if you tried the reversal when American troops massacred Native Americans, there would be an uproar in the PC community.

PC is and always has been a bunch bunk!

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I don?t remember the exact circumstances of Goliad but as I recall there was a surrender and subsequent mass killing of surrendered troops. Why would that be called anything other than a massacre? Does changing words revise history or is that part of the plan as well. In my opinion, PC is a fairly thin exercise in subtrafudge. Some things like the Battle of the Little Big Horn were/are in need of qualified academic study and correction as necessary, but only because the original reports and public beliefs were one huge hair ball of PC deception in the first place. Fine, clean those up but leave facts and supportable history alone is what I think.
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Sand Creek, Wounded Knee, or the Trail of Tears... either.
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True and real masacres indeed, committed by Yellow-legs. And let us not forget the My Lai massacre. As I've stated before, had I been on the court martial board, I would have voted to hang that sorry SOB.
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Scout -

Am I halfway right on this next idea?

There were a WHOLE bunch of "Buffalo Soldiers" assigned, detailed to handle a lot of those massacres out West?

Does that mean, in contemporary PC language, that those trooper's carrying out of duty would today be considered genocide, too?
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Not being inordinantly gifted with knowledge about the duties and functions of the Buffalo Soldiers, I would be remiss, it not downright in error (hard to believe, but I'll admit it!) if I wrote about what they did or didn't do. But with all the massacres (there's that words again) of Native Americans by US troops, it might be a stretch to think that only Blacks were involved. I would say that many more White soldiers were the perps.

(Notice my total lack of political correctness: I refuse to use the bogus term "African-American" to describe a Black, as I think it's geo-babble. Not every person coming from Africa is Black, as witnessed by the Moroccans, Algerians, Egyptians etc. And I don't refer to our original inhabitants as "Indians." Indians are from India, and it was the stupid Christopher Columbus who called them "Indians." Just because he was lost, using somebody else's money for his trip, lost more money on other bad investments, and was a poor manager of people [damn, now doesn't that sound like a job description for a Democrat?] doesn't mean that we should blindly follow his errors and keep referring to them as they ain't.)
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