I WAS WRONG!-----McCain REALLY IS THAT "DUMB"!

[Gimpy]

McCAIN'S REMARKS ABOUT A NEW VA MISSION SEND WRONG MESSAGE? --


(Aw gee, ya think???----Gimp)


Presidential-hopeful calls for VA to get out of the business of "routine" healthcare.

There are lots of people trying to figure out what McCain means by this.

He wants the VA to get out of the business of "routine" healthcare and just treat "combat wounds."

This would mean that non-combat, service-connected conditions wouldn't be treated by the VA. This would mean that there would be no preventive medicine practiced at the VA. (You know, like it was BEFORE 1994----When things were sooooooooooo BAD!---How well we remember!---Gimp)


A number of journalists have asked the McCain campaign for a clarification, but none has been offered at this time.

If McCain is being straight-up about this proposal, it would mean the end of the VA.

In the piece below, McCain again called for a "VA Card" that vets could use anywhere for their care. Again...this would mean the end of the VA. We have seen what happened when our military hospitals were closed and retirees were given a "card"...they ended up with an HMO (TRICARE) and many of them are paying dearly for their healthcare.

Even VA Secretary Peake is opposed to the "VA Card" concept, calling it "yellow-page medicine" and "potentially dangerous."

For more about McCain's "VA Card" proposal, use the VA Watchdog search engine...click here...
http://www.yourvabenefits.org/sessea...=va+card&op=ph

Story here... http://www.cbsnews.com/blog
s/2008/07/26/politics/fromtheroad/entry4297032.shtml

Story below:

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McCain Calls for Change in VA's Mission
From CBS News’ John Bentley


(SEDONA, ARIZ.) – The Veterans Administration should concentrate on treating soldiers with serious injuries and get out of the business of routine health care, John McCain said today.

“We have got to spend more effort and devote more time to the treatment of the battle wounds both seen and unseen,” McCain said, appearing via satellite at National Forum on Disability Issues. “I believe we need to relieve the burden on the VA from routine health care, put more of our assets in the unique capabilities of the VA for the treatment of combat wounds, both seen and unseen.”


McCain advocates giving each veteran a card that they can take to any doctor’s office, so the VA can concentrate on more serious, combat-related injuries, like Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.


“If you have a routine health care need, take it wherever you want, whatever doctor or health care provider and get the treatment you need, while we at the VA focus our attention, our care, our love, on these grievous wounds of war,” he said.


McCain has been criticized for not supporting some types of funding for veterans programs because he believes they are not cost efficient ????or encourage soldiers to leave the armed services, the U.S. government spent over $80 billion on veterans in 2007, the largest expenditure in history.


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Evidently McCain doesn't know about all the high marks and respect that the VA health care system has received from such prestigious and well respected institutions like the AMA, Harvard Medical School, The National Insitute for Quality Control, The Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, the American Psychiatric Association, etc., etc.

According to all these institutions, the VA health care systems out performs ALL the "private health care" systems in this country in "quality care" AND "cost effectivenesss"........ PERIOD!

I think Johnny boy better get his FACTS straight before he goes around knocking a system he obviously has no freakin clue about!

Kinda like that "economy" thingee he said he didn't know much about, ya know??

This guy is MORE dangerous to military veterans than his buddy now residing in the Whitehouse!

Gimp

[SEATJERKER]

...

...What your saying is that if somewhere down the line, the Gov't, and all the powers that be come to a logical/rarional decesion that hospitals that are private, and the Va. were to "merge' and figure out a cost saving measure that it would still be wrong,...

...The condensed version of any statement can be misconstrued to "cut the cloth, to fit the pattern", and Gimp, you are just so "hell bent" on " total blame on the republicans" for the total past histories of all of them, repub, and dems,...

...my .02,...

...still luv ya,...

...

[Gimpy]

Originally Posted by SEATJERKER

...

...What your saying is that if somewhere down the line, the Gov't, and all the powers that be come to a logical/rarional decesion that hospitals that are private, and the Va. were to "merge' and figure out a cost saving measure that it would still be wrong,...

...The condensed version of any statement can be misconstrued to "cut the cloth, to fit the pattern", and Gimp, you are just so "hell bent" on " total blame on the republicans" for the total past histories of all of them, repub, and dems,...

...my .02,...

...still luv ya,...

...

Curtis that's NOT what I'm saying.

What I AM saying is that McCain (as MOST Republicans in Congress have proven) does NOT support the current VA health care system. The documented "eviidence" that shows this clearly is in the public record(s) for all to see.

Their "voting records" in the House and Senate over these past fifteen years or so show this to be a fact!---Not merely some "political rhetoric"...but, the ACTUAL FACTS!

All the military service orgs (DAV, VFW, American Legion, Military Order of The Purple Heart, Vietnam Veterans of America, Paralyzed Veterans of America, retired Military Officers Association, etc., etc.) have stated in press release after press release and in sworn Congressional testimomy!

Yeah, you're right----I AM "PISSED -OFF" at the majority of the Republicans.----And, THIS is why. The claim to "support the troops"....while their "actions" prove otherwise!

And, when the Democrats were guilty of this behavior---I was JUST AS "PISSED-OFF" AT THEM!

You want some more "proof" that the VA health care system is the "best" this nation has to offer vets and their families?

Check out the site below:


http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...1.longman.html


And here is the last paragraph from that study...........

"As the health-care crisis worsens, and as more become aware of how dangerous and unscientific most of the U.S. health-care system is, maybe we will find a way to get our minds around these strange truths. Many Americans still believe that the U.S. health-care system is the best in the world, and that its only major problems are that it costs too much and leaves too many people uninsured. But the fact remains that Americans live shorter lives, with more disabilities, than people in countries that spend barely half as much per person on health care. Pouring more money into the current system won't change that. Nor will making the current system even more fragmented and driven by short-term profit motives. But learning from the lesson offered by the veterans health system could point the way to an all-American solution."

Still luv ya too old Buddy,

Gimp

[reconeil]

As usual, you zealot hack adorers of Muslim Born, having large extended worldwide Muslim Family & Devout Muslim Madrassa Schooled Graduate (as garb seen in photos & cartoons) Barack Hussein Obama Jr., prove that will say most anything deceptive & derogatory about Bush, McCain or any Republicans,...and now even stupidly trash & bash fixing The VA.

Regardless, don't falsely accuse John McCain of intending: "The end of The VA".
You are being absurd & blatantly dishonest,...since just not so.

Mccain wants VA to revert back to as it was AT ITS VERY BEST and as initially intended after WWII & throughout The Fiftees, INSTEAD of leaving it as what obviously has evolved into. It has become The Largest Bureaucracy in America (If not the world?) and/or sort-of-like a military combination HMO, MEDICARE & MEDICAID serving ALL Veterans,...and not just Veterans with: "SERVICE CONNECTED" Disabilities as initially intended & worked quite well for many years.

As has become quite bloated now, ANY Veteran can avail him or herself of many VA Facilities and even VA Hospitals for for standard or typical Screenings or Medical Care, such as usually covered by either Insurers, MEDICARE or MEDICAID for even the slightest of: NON-"SERVICE CONNECTED" Disabilities,...and for which correcting has been long overdue.

Even though can't say for certain, bet-chu that if currently tallying-up all VA Personel (Chief Bureaucrats, Mini-Bureaucrats, Denying Lawyers, Lobbyists, Paper-pushers, Workers, Doctors, Nurses, Technicians & Orderlies),...such would likely surpass the amount of: "SERVICE CONNECTED Disabled Veterans" needing treatment & being cared for?

If actually not surpassing,...I'm reasonable sure that the numerical comparison would at least be quite close. After all, an about half century of politics with ANY U.S. Taxpayer Funded Bureaucracy will automatically make The Bureacracy ITSELF (NOT its Charges) of most importance. That's a given.

Hell,...the number of Red Tape Blocking Lawyers vying for higher positions ALONE, whose main purposes in life are denying legitimate: "SERVICE CONNECTED Disability Claims" for as long as possible (preferably until Veteran is deceased),...must be large enough to comprise a good size Regimental Combat Team.

Don't believe me? Then just ask Rick and/or HARDCORE. He too might agree that VA needs some drastic fixing, since having had to suffer The VA Bureacracy and/or The VA Bureaucracy's: "Eber Alles" Lawyers,...for the great majority of his: "SERVICE CONNECTED Disabled" lifetime. "He" keeps fighting them, and "They" just quite absurdly anti-Veteran keep mercilessly waltzing "Him" Around. Hey, self-anointed gods will remain gods,...FOREVER.

Neil

[Gimpy]

I'll bet it's awfully hard being an idiot like you all the time, huh?

Are you so stupid that you can't even READ what the Rand Corporation, Harvard Medical School, The National Alliance For Quality Control have to say about the "current VA health care system"?????

Once again.............GO HERE.........BELOW...........

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...1.longman.html


And PLEASE stop embarrasing yourself with your unlrelenting exhibition of stupidity!

Lessons over...........You can take your nap now.

Gimp

[colmurph]

Originally Posted by Gimpy

I'll bet it's awfully hard being an idiot like you all the time, huh?

Are you so stupid that you can't even READ what the Rand Corporation, Harvard Medical School, The National Alliance For Quality Control have to say about the "current VA health care system"?????

Once again.............GO HERE.........BELOW...........

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...1.longman.html


And PLEASE stop embarrasing yourself with your unlrelenting exhibition of stupidity!

Lessons over...........You can take your nap now.

Gimp

Gimpy, when I got back from Vietnam with three Purple Hearts, I was rated by the VA as 9% disabled to ensure that I would not get any compensation. The doctor who examined me was "Shitfaced" and on top of that had glasses that looked like the bottom of coke bottles. Veterans woud be better served by doing away with the VA altogether and using that money to pay for medical insurance coverage for the veterans. The VA is a joke!

[reconeil]

...and/or FANATICALLY BASHING, PETTY or SHALLOW DEMS, to The Core.

Don't go along with the typical Wartime & America in general Undermining of Pelosi, Maher, Moore, Soros, Radical Left and/or: "Democrat/Socialist/Leftist Political Supremacists posing as Liberals" Party Line,...and the very best that their boob hacks can come up with are calling any & all Opposition Truth Tellers, derogatory names. What enemy helpful a--holes.

Besides, it would be MUCH WISER to believe Obama's tight buddies & confidants Rev. Wright & Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan or even Iranian Leaders & Muslim Mullahs,...rather than believing any such: "Recapture The White House AT ANY COST TO AMERICA" Democrat Zealot Politicians, anyway. All alluded to usually & quite differently mean what they say.

Neil

[Gimpy]

Originally Posted by reconeil

...and/or FANATICALLY BASHING, PETTY or SHALLOW DEMS, to The Core.

Don't go along with the typical Wartime & America in general Undermining of Pelosi, Maher, Moore, Soros, Radical Left and/or: "Democrat/Socialist/Leftist Political Supremacists posing as Liberals" Party Line,...and the very best that their boob hacks can come up with are calling any & all Opposition Truth Tellers, derogatory names. What enemy helpful a--holes.

Besides, it would be MUCH WISER to believe Obama's tight buddies & confidants Rev. Wright & Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan or even Iranian Leaders & Muslim Mullahs,...rather than believing any such: "Recapture The White House AT ANY COST TO AMERICA" Democrat Zealot Politicians, anyway. All alluded to usually & quite differently mean what they say.

Neil

You STILL didn't read the "report", uh?

I suppose you're so busy ranting & raving like a madman on steriods you're unable to stop long enough to peruse the FACTS about the VA?

SOP for wingnuts I reckon.

OH well, there's no hope for you anyway.

Gimp

[Gimpy]

Originally Posted by colmurph

Gimpy, when I got back from Vietnam with three Purple Hearts, I was rated by the VA as 9% disabled to ensure that I would not get any compensation. The doctor who examined me was "Shitfaced" and on top of that had glasses that looked like the bottom of coke bottles. Veterans woud be better served by doing away with the VA altogether and using that money to pay for medical insurance coverage for the veterans. The VA is a joke!

I probably shouldn't even be responding to any of your crap after all the ridiculous $hit you've posted about me.


But, I truly believe there maybe an ever so slight of an ounce of
comprehension left between those ears of yours. So here goes.


I agree with you about "when I got back from Vietnam"......the VA was DEFINATELY a snake pit back then. It was AWFUL!


But, all that changed around 1994 when Dr. Kenneth Kiser took over as Chief of the VA health care system.


I swear by the system today. As do ALL the military service organizations.
Just go back and read the report by Phillip Longman.


Gimp

[reconeil]

There now Murph,...don't you fell better?
Don't you too find it quite reassuring when The Childlike Cranky Boob and/or Sophomoric:
"Attack Dog" style Democrat Hack Gimpy states:"I swear by the system today"(?),.........
amazingly while claiming SO MANY things caused SOLELY by Bush are WRONG with The VA.

I must believe that constant Democrat Whining Fool must have even been held back in Kintergarden.
What do you think? Wonder if Twisted One made it through Basic Training, in only one try?

Whatever and myopic or tunnel vision underminers aside, I personally find any reassurances
coming from any such Democrat Hacks about as reassuring as knowing that Her Worship
Nancy Pelosi is THIRD IN COMMAND while at War & under daily threat of attack by Fanatically
Radical & Murderous Islam. Hell,..."The Keystone Cops" would be infinitely more reassuring.

Even more scarey is the possibility of phony: "I pray to Jesus every night" or Chaimberlain-
like Barack Hussein Obama Jr. coming to Pelosi's or The Hairy One's (in Italian) aid or rescue.

Then, Pelosi will likely wave The White Flag while Obama & Rest of Capitulators chit-chat or
cowereingly discuss how best converting all American Subjects to Islam.
Hey,...the more hands involved the better. Such called: "Delegating authority".

Maybe then,...going through second childhood Gimpy will FINALLY be happy and it will also be
exposed why Muslim Madrassa School Graduate Obama was never put on EVEN ONE Mullah's:
"Hit List" or Fatwah,...as all others snubbing or defecting from Islam and SUPPOSEDLY(?)
converting to Christianity or any other religion,...ARE & HAVE BEEN.

Obviously all Muslims Mullahs Worldwide know something,...that We Americans DO NOT!

Neil