Ground Zero Imam: ‘I Don’t Believe in Religious Dialogue’

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Ground Zero Imam: ‘I Don’t Believe in Religious Dialogue’

Posted By Walid Shoebat On May 27, 2010

Is Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf — founder of the hugely controversial Ground Zero mosque [1] — lying to the American public and his fellow New Yorkers?

We have uncovered extraordinary contradictions between what he says in English and what he says in Arabic that raise serious questions about his true intentions in the construction of the mosque.

On May 25, 2010, Abdul Rauf wrote an article [2] for the New York Daily News insisting:

My colleagues and I are the anti-terrorists. We are the people who want to embolden the vast majority of Muslims who hate terrorism to stand up to the radical rhetoric. Our purpose is to interweave America’s Muslim population into the mainstream society. [emphasis added]

Oh, really?

Only two months before, on March 24, 2010, Abdul Rauf is quoted in an article in Arabic for the website Rights4All [3]entitled “The Most Prominent Imam in New York: ‘I Do Not Believe in Religious Dialogue.’”

Yes, you read that correctly and, yes, that is an accurate translation of Abdul Rauf. And Right4All is not an obscure blog, but the website of the media department of Cairo University, the leading educational institution of the Arabic-speaking world.

In the article, the imam said the following of the “religious dialogue” and “interweaving into the mainstream society” that he so solemnly seems to advocate in the Daily News and elsewhere:

This phrase is inaccurate. Religious dialogue as customarily understood is a set of events with discussions in large hotels that result in nothing. Religions do not dialogue and dialogue is not present in the attitudes of the followers, regardless of being Muslim or Christian. The image of Muslims in the West is complex which needs to be remedied.

But that was two months ago. More recently — in fact on May 26, one day after his Daily News column – Abdul Rauf appeared on the popular Islamic website Hadiyul-Islam [4] with even more disturbing opinions.

That’s the same website where, ironically enough, a fatwa was simultaneously being issued forbidding a Muslim to sell land to a Christian, because the Christian wanted to build a church on it.

In his interview on Hadiyul-Islam by Sa’da Abdul Maksoud, Abdul Rauf was asked his views on Sharia (Islamic religious law) and the Islamic state. He responded:

Throughout my discussions with contemporary Muslim theologians, it is clear an Islamic state can be established in more then just a single form or mold. It can be established through a kingdom or a democracy. The important issue is to establish the general fundamentals of Sharia that are required to govern. It is known that there are sets of standards that are accepted by [Muslim] scholars to organize the relationships between government and the governed. [emphasis added]

When questioned about this, Abdul Rauf continued: “Current governments are unjust and do not follow Islamic laws.” He added:

New laws were permitted after the death of Muhammad, so long of course that these laws do not contradict the Quran or the Deeds of Muhammad … so they create institutions that assure no conflicts with Sharia. [emphasis in translation]

In yet plainer English, forget the separation of church and state. Abdul Rauf’s goal is the imposition of Shariah law — in every country, even democratic ones like the U.S.

But these attitudes are nothing new for the (alas, few) people who have been paying attention. Way back on September 30, 2001, Feisal Abdul Rauf was interviewed on 60 Minutes by host Ed Bradley. Their verbatim dialogue from this CBS News transcript concluded:

BRADLEY: Are- – are — are you in any way suggesting that we in the United States deserved what happened?

Imam ABDUL RAUF: I wouldn’t say that the United States deserved what happened, but the United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened [5].

BRADLEY: OK. You say that we’re an accessory?

Imam ABDUL RAUF: Yes.

BRADLEY: How?

Imam ABDUL RAUF: Because we have been an accessory to a lot of — of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, it — in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA.

This is the “anti-terrorist” of the Daily News article?

The Feisal Abdul Rauf who spoke to 60 Minutes in 2001 is the same Abdul Rauf who, in the last couple of months, espoused the spread of Sharia law on Arabic websites and said the opposite in the pages of the Daily News.

He is the man New York City authorities are about to allow to build a mosque on Ground Zero.

Caveat emptor. Meanwhile, perhaps some enterprising reporter should ask Abdul Rauf his opinion of that fatwa forbidding Muslims from selling land to Christians who intend to build a church on it.

(Don’t miss PJTV’s coverage of the Ground Zero mosque story. [6])



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URLs in this post: [1] Ground Zero mosque: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/2...r-ground-zero/
[2] wrote an article: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/...ound_zero.html
[3] Rights4All: http://www.rights4all.net/?p=67
[4] Hadiyul-Islam: http://www.hadielislam.com/arabic/in...ticle&id=12025
[5] to the crime that happened: http://www.press.uchicago.edu/News/911rauch.html
[6] Ground Zero mosque story.: http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=111

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Mayor Bloomberg Submits, Sanctions 911 Mega Mosque

by Pamela Geller

The Mayor of New York backs the fifteen-story mega-mosque that is slated to be built near Ground Zero. He said Friday: “I think it’s fair to say if somebody was going to try, on that piece of property, to build a church or a synagogue, nobody would be yelling and screaming. And the fact of the matter is that Muslims have a right to do it, too.” The Mayor is wrong. This mosque is not about freedom of religion. It’s about Islamic supremacism.



This why the Stop Islamization of America (SIOA) June 6th rally against the proposed mega-mosque is so important. The Islamic supremacists must be shamed into withdrawing and not doing a victory dance on the hallowed burial ground of Ground Zero.

Bloomberg also said: “What is great about America and particularly New York is we welcome everybody, and if we are so afraid of something like this, what does that say about us?…If you are religious, you do not want the government picking religions, because what do you do the day they don’t pick yours?”

While I agree that that the government should keep its big fat nose out of religion (separation of mosque and state), I do not agree that the Mayor should publicly take one side if he really believes government should stay out of it. It’s why I believe petitions to the Mayor are a waste of time.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has on his New York City Human Rights Commission Omar Mohammedi, the former President of the New York chapter of the unindicted co-conspirator, Hamas-linked Muslim Brotherhood front, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

Terror lawyer Mohammedi represents a number of organizations that are the defendants in a 9/11 lawsuit for the murder of 3000 innocent people. One of the organizations he is working for is the World Assembly for Muslim Youth (WAMY), a Saudi-based group with offices around the globe that publishes incendiary materials against Jews and openly supports Hamas and violent jihad.


Mohammedi has also served as attorney for the Flying Imams, the six imams who were removed from a US Airways flight after passengers complained that they were acting suspiciously. Mohammedi’s lawsuit claimed that when they were removed from the plane, the imams suffered “fear, depression, mental pain and financial injury.” Mohammedi also initially filed suit against the passengers who complained, which would have had a chilling effect on anyone reporting suspicious behavior by Muslims in airports — although that part of the suit was dropped after Republicans in Congress passed legislation to protect the passengers.

SIOA has many times called on Bloomberg to remove Mohammedi from the Human Rights Commission. Yet he still serves. So we know what side of the jihad Bloomberg comes down on. And remember also that before Times Square jihad bomber Faisal Shahzad was caught, Bloomberg offered his opinion: that the would-be car bomber was probably a right-winger who was upset about Obamacare.

So what can be done about the mosque? Many people are holding out hope that New York city’s Landmarks Preservation Commission will stop the mosque, since to build it would require that a building that dates from 1857 would have to be torn down. But don’t count on that. The Mayor controls the landmarks commission.

In a dangerous and increasingly common trend, politicians are ignoring their constituents. All of the New York politicians who have constituents in the area where the mosque is to be built are in lockstep with the Islamic supremacists, as I witnessed at the Community Board meeting Tuesday night, where the Board approved the mosque over the vehement objections of most of the people at the meeting.

The mega-mosque’s organizer, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, should withdraw the proposal for the mosque at Ground Zero. It is hurting too many families and patriotic Americans. The war against the West is still being waged. The mega-mosque will be the rallying cry for the universal caliphate — a shrine to jihad at the cherished site of Islamic conquest.

The righteous, decent and tolerant thing to do would be for Imam Faisal and his wife Daisy Khan, a chief advocate of the mosque project, to withdraw their plans for the mosque in the interest of “mutual understanding” and “mutual respect.”

But that won’t happen. And so our protest on June 6th will.

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