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Old 01-17-2008, 03:13 AM
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...n053954S17.DTL

SoCal official's false medal claim defended as free speech

An elected official charged with falsely claiming he earned the military's highest honor has filed a motion to dismiss the federal case against him on free speech grounds.


The motion argues that the Stolen Valor Act of 2005, under which water board member Xavier Alvarez was charged, is incompatible with the First Amendment because it restricts free speech by criminalizing false claims of military honors.


Alvarez, an elected representative to the Three Valleys Municipal Water District, said last year at a water district meeting that he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his deeds as a Marine.


After admitting he never served in the military, he was charged with violating the Stolen Valor Act. He pleaded not guilty to the misdemeanor charge.


Alvarez's lawyer Brianna J. Fuller argued in the motion to dismiss, which will be heard Jan. 14 in federal court, that "protecting the reputation of military decorations" is not a compelling enough reason to place "restrictions on false statements."


But government prosecutors said in their opposition submitted Wednesday that the First Amendment does not protect deliberate falsehoods.
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Old 01-17-2008, 03:43 AM
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Australia has those guys too... I went to this... got that... went here... won that... march in line... medals dont look the same... line them up (fraudsters) and F##king shoot the bastards
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:50 AM
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It' not good for you to hold your anger in. Sometimes you just have to let it out mate!

Yes, free speech. What next.

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Old 01-17-2008, 07:02 AM
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What my dear southern brother Packo said!
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:53 AM
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Here's a draconian solution: throw both the perp and his lawyer in jail, until such time that a trial can be held, then sentence them both to long prison terms.

I checked the link that revwardoc supplied, and the photo of this fat, lyin' SOB shows him wearing his dress blues with CIB, DSC, and a whole bunch of other awards and decorations. What a despicable POS.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:41 AM
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Another lying politican, I always thought they were all liars. Isn't that prereqiste to be a politican for your resume the ability to be a liar.
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Unfortunately, and since taking place in California, both despicable phonies and/or
"P(s)OS" as Brice referred to same scum,...might not even get a slap-on-the-wrist.

Some California Courts have proved themselves EXCEPTIONALLY STRANGE, POLITICAL
and/or quite favoring of sickos & perverts over decent folks & U.S. Military. Sorry.

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Old 01-17-2008, 12:48 PM
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It seems they need attention and this is the only way they can get it. We've seen several of these individuals over the years and I'm sure more will be uncovered as time goes by.
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Now here is a poem that I wish to share with all the real serving members of the armed forces around the world!... TAKE HEED THE IMPOSTER! YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED

Enjoy the read Patriots

THE WANNABE

THERE ARE SOLDIERS FROM ALL NATIONS
WHO'VE FOUGHT WARS SINCE CREATION,
THE TOUGHEST OF TOUGH, ALL OF THEM.
THE BRAVEST OF WOMEN, THE BRAVEST OF MEN,

THEY FOUGHT IN THE JUNGLE, THEY FOUGHT IN THE SAND
AND UNDER THEIR FLAG, THEY FOUGHT FOR THEIR LAND.
THEY FOUGHT FROM THE SEAS, THEY FOUGHT FROM THE SKIES
ALL WITH ONE COMMON HATRED, THE IMPOSTER THAT LIES.

THE IMPOSTER IS ONE WITH NO OUTS AT ALL,
THE ONE TRUE SOLDIERS ASK, "FROM UNDER WHICH ROCK DID HE CRAWL".
HE'S EVER SO BRAVE, SO STRONG AND SO BRASH,
BUT AS SOON AS HIS MOUTH OPENS, THERE'S NOTHING BUT TRASH.

HE SPEAKS OF HIS FEATS, NOW HE WAS SO GREAT..
THE KIND OF TALK, THAT THE TRUE SOLDIER'S HATE.
HE TALKS OF THE THINGS HE HAS DONE, THE MEDALS HE HAS WON,
ITS ALL OF HIS TALK THAT SOON BRINGS HIM UNDONE.

HE TALKS OF A BATTLE WITH ALL FANCY FAIR,
THE TRUE SOLDIER THINKS, " 1 DONT REMEMBER HIM THERE.
THEN QUESTIONS ARE ASKED ABOUT WHERE HE IS FROM,
HIS ANSWERS SOON SNOW, THAT HE DOESN'T BELONG.

SO HE'S PUT TO THE TEST, TIME AFTER TIME.
TRUE SOLDIERS START THINKING, HE'S NOTHING RUT SLIME.
TRUE SOLDIERS START TAKING A VERY HARD LINE,
FOR THIS PERSON IS COMMITTING, A FEDERAL CRIME!

GOING TO A WAR CEREMONY AND LAYING A WREATH,
FOR PHANTOM FALLEN MATES, IS BEYOND A TRUE SOLDIERS BELIEF.
FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS MAN.
ITS SOMETHING A TRUE SOLDIER, CAN'T UNDERSTAND.

GOING TO ANZAC MARCHES / N FULL MILITARY UNIFORM,
TO COP THE BRUNT OF A TRUE SOLDIERS SCORN,
MEDALS PINNED TO HIS CHEST, SOME THE RIGHT WAY AROUND,
OTHERS HUNG CURIOUSLY, UPSIDE DOWN.

AGAIN HE STARTS TO SPEAK OF THINGS THAT HE’S SEEN,
OF PLACES A TRUE SOLDIER KNOWS HE’S NEVER BEEN,
THE INJURIES RECEIVED, IN BATTLE HE NEVER FOUGHT,
HIS LIES GO ON AND ON, UNTIL HE GETS CAUGHT.

WHEN THIS FINALLY HAPPENS, AND HE’S RUN OUT OF TOWN,
TRUE SOLDIERS CELEBRATE THE DEPARTURE OF THIS PHONY CLOWN,
TRUE SOLDIERS WHO’VE LOST WARS AND THOSE WHO HAVE WON,
ALL PRAY THERE AREN’T TOO MANY, LIKE THE ONE COME UNDONE!!

Print this poem out and place it with your medals friends to remind you...

YOU EARN'T THESE

...................................ADVANCE AUSTRALIA...................................
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Another lying politican, I always thought they were all liars. Isn't that prereqiste to be a politican for your resume the ability to be a liar.
Just a little bit too wide a brush, don't you think? Now, all wannabees are liars, but not all liars are wannabees..............
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