Sen. John McCain's Poll

[DeadlyDaring]

Do you agree with Gen. Wesley Clark's contention that Sen. John McCain's military experience, including his time as a POW, doesn't qualify him to be commander-in-chief?

http://www.military.com/hp/poll?poll=3501&ESRC=navy.nl

.....................................I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president.


Gen. Wesley Clark said that NOT ME


IT IS ALL POLICTICAL BASHING

[SuperScout]

Wesley Clark was nothing more than a suck-up to Slick Willie. I had the distinct displeasure of meeting him at the National Training Center, and saw the most arrogant, self-serving POS that ever put on a pair of BDU's. I also knew some officers that were on his staff at NATO, and their unanimous opionion was that he was all about himself, and was the worst officer they ever served with or under. Add to this the fact that he was releived of command for his idiotic blunders that almost got us into a shooting war with Russian troops during the Bosnia debacle, and his true character was revealed to the thinking world. Only fools pay any attention to what he has to say.

[Packo]

Now, lets see, 4 years ago John Kerry told us every day he was a Decorated, gag, Vietnam Veteran. The DNC did nothing but point to his wartime record until the men he served with questioned all that hero crap, which, he has never disproved. Now comes John McCain....and people like Wesley the Clerk, saying that his experience doesn't count. Sounds like a bit of hypocracy to me but what do I know or care, I'm an Independent. Just more political bull$hit, which is why, everyday, I get more Apolitical.

Pack

[SuperScout]

Interesting how the whiners and snivelers say that McCain's years in the US Navy don't qualify him for the White House. Shall we look at the sterling record of JFK, who somehow managed to get his PT boat cut in half by a Jap destroyer, and then rode that dubious honor eventually intothe White House? Or how about LBJ, who was a friggin' passenger in a B-25, a plane that didn't make the bombing mission as scheduled, but turned around, and he was the only person on board that was given a medal, the Silver Star?

And WTF has Barack Hussein Obama ever done militarily speaking? Maybe actually having seen a soldier would probably top the list. Sheesh.

[exlrrp]

And this is a great example of media distortion. Heres' what Clark actually said: "...I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of war....." Moderator Bob Schieffer, who raised the issue by citing similar remarks Clark has made previously, noted that Obama hadn’t had those experiences nor had he ridden in a fighter plane and been shot down. "Well, I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president," Clark replied...."

No , I don't think John MCCain's 5 years in a POW camp qualifies him to be president, just like I think my year in Vietnam doesn't qualify me to be president. I don't thinkk a successfull president has to be a veteran---consider FDR, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams. Some of the worst presidents were great generals, like US Grant and Zachary Taylor.
Just out of curiousity---what service did Mitt Romney and Rudi Giulani serve in?

its intersting to see all the slamming of Clark here by some of the most judgemental assholes its been my displeasure to run across--they never quit. Its typical of the j.o's who post here that they would insult a much bemedaled man who was carried out of Vietnam on a stretcher. Clark's medals include the Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart.
I'll post what wiki says about his Silver star so you can start pissing on it right away,
and take this finger with you!

" In February, only one month into his command, he was shot four times by a Viet Cong soldier with an AK-47. The wounded Clark shouted orders to his men, who counterattacked and defeated the Viet Cong force. Clark had injuries to his right shoulder, right hand, right hip, and right leg, and was sent to Valley Forge Army Hospital in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania to recuperate. He was awarded the Silver Star for his actions during the encounter."

Gee only one month and he got a siver star and a purple heart----that MUST be phony, right conservatives ??

Clark was able to bring th Balkan crisis to a successfull conclusion without the loss of one American life. The bozos who took us into Iraq sure can't say the same and all they can do is slam the reputations of better men than them.

Liike I say, we leave the Swiftboating to the conservatives--they have the requisite despicable mindsetm, as you can see above.

[exlrrp]

Here's what REALLY happened with the Russian deal:


"...One of Clark's most debated decisions during his SACEUR command was his attempted operation at Priština International Airport immediately after the end of the Kosovo War. Russian forces had arrived in Kosovo and were heading for the airport on June 12, 1999, two days after the bombing campaign ended, expecting to help police that section of Kosovo. Clark, on the other hand, had planned for the Kosovo Force to police the area. Clark called then-Secretary General of NATO Javier Solana, and was told "of course you have to get to the airport" and "you have transfer of authority" in the area. The British commander of the Kosovo Force, General Mike Jackson, however refused to block the Russians through military action reportedly saying "I'm not going to start the Third World War for you." Jackson has said he refused to take action because he did not believe it was worth the risk of a military confrontation with the Russians. American General Hugh Shelton called Jackson's refusal "troubling," and hearings in the United States Senate suggested it may amount to insubordination, with Senator John Warner suggesting holding hearings regarding whether the refusal was legal and potentially changing those rules if it was.[72] British Chief of the Defence Staff Charles Guthrie, however, agreed with Jackson and told Clark this on the day Jackson refused the order.[73] Russia eventually withdrew its aid when some nations - including Bulgaria and Romania - disallowed Russian aircraft to fly over their territory, halting their ability to bring in forces...."

Doesn't seem as much of a huge fuckup as taking this country into war on completely phony evidence. Looks like Russia stopped sending aid because of Bulgaria and Rumania---not anything Clark did.

"...Rumors persisted that Clark was forced out due to his contentious relationship with some in Washington D.C.; however, he has dismissed such rumors, calling it a "routine personnel action," and the Department of Defense said it was merely a "general rotation of American senior ranks."

yeah, there's always those conservative rumormongers, aka vicious liars

[Gimpy]

Originally Posted by exlrrp

yeah, there's always those conservative rumormongers, aka vicious liars

You have once again NAILED IT!

Thanks --- Gimp

[reconeil]

We can discuss it or debate it and gimpy & exlrrp can whine differently (the norm) all they
like. But the unarguable truth of the matter is that any Eagle Scouts (even Girl Scouts also)
are no doubt much more qualified being America's next Wartime Commander-In-Chief,....
than Christian (supposedly?) as politically & journalistically hyped, Saint Obama.

Never been either, but understand that both Boy & Girl Scouts are infinitely more honest,
credible & believable than the TRULY STRANGE Muslim Defector (re. Barack Hussein Obama)
not even being on some Mullah's lethal: "Hit List" or Fatwah,...will ever be.

Hell,...cartoonists only slightly demeaning Islam must go into hiding,...and quite wisely so.
Maybe Islam knows that: "I pray to Jesus every night" was strictly show-biz and done
solely for political expediency? Such would surely explain why not hunted down and
mercileslly dispatched,...as all other Muslim Turncoats normally & usually are.

In general, most Mullahs get pretty-testy about Madrassa Schooled Muslims snubbing Islam
and converting to Christianity. Converting to Judaism? Forget about it.
Such would no doubt bring on a rage induced strokes or coronaries.

Neil

[reconeil]

Previously & realistically explaining that a Boy & Girl Scout would be a better qualified
team for responsibly handling The U.S. Presidency than Barrack Hussein Obama Jr. & Mrs.,...
I apologize for never actually answering your question about America's full-time applicant
for any Democrat Vice Presidential opening available, and/or Gen. Wesley Clark.

__________________________________________________ ______

So, here goes regarding: "Do you agree with..............."?

OF COURSE NOT!!!

Only: "Democrat/Socialist/Leftists Political Supremacists posing as Liberals" could ever
possibly believe what that multi-stared Phoney & continual Dem Hack has to say.
Hell, I might even believe Gimpy or Exlrrp before believing pompous Old W E S L E Y?

Besides, comparing being any POW to a Muslim Madrassa School Graduate,...isn't just
totally absurd like confusing apples with oranges. It's absolutely moronic,idiotic or nuts.

Neil

[Seascamp]

FDR is not a Veteran, really? Perhaps not putting on the uniform makes a case, but at 32 years of age, FDR was appointed Assistant Sectary of the Navy; 1914-1920, made some very significant contributions and that makes a different case. At the onset of his first term in 1933, FDR probably had more intrinsic and earned knowledge of the USN and USMC than any President before or since. The key word is “earned”, and that specifically means not given, assumed or assigned.

I simply don’t see how FDR’s history and bio can be used as Obama wagon axel lard unless someone rewrites history and blots out some exceptionally significant military background information.

Scamp