2008 South Ossetia war (Russia vs Georgia) about war in land & in web.

[Waffa]

Personally i think Its not fair that people just see this war as Georgians attacked & killed 2000 russians for NO reason like soviet media wants people to believe. Its maybe also not fair to say all the things what so called western media is reporting... but hell, at least we have choice in western world what to read and report. Russia was 3th deadliest country for journalists between 2002-2006 - this including arias like iraq !

Russia has started massive "webwar" and just like from no where has come people in to networks like facebook,myspace,orkut (all of them have aprx 100 million users) livejurnal(now owned by russia), vkontaktie (15 million users, mostly russians) and making up groups about how western media lies about russia & they call everyone up to not pay attention to western news becouse they have always been telling lies only and take a look at russian point of view. (they represent themselves as Americans, finnish, uk etc). Most of russian news ofcourse links back to servers what are paid by dpni (was first hosted in VKPB server) , Nashi & others powers like that even if they are hosted in US or europe (but then again, their network IS wide and they have a lot of connections to different fashist organisations world wide) .
A lot of people might think that these are just random activists & web activity is not important at all - think again. This is government lever project and to put it simple words basically it means "KGB (FSB) is doing massive work in web" to prepare people... ( and its supper easy to control media with hackers from FAPSI & gov programs like SORM-2). Massive anti USA campaigns are started in russia (like usa wants to attack russia and they need to prepare and protect themselves, they say "do we need to wait when they attack us first") - more then ever, more then anywhere you can imagine. Russian youth are brainwashed & that means russia can more and more do whatever they want soon.

Putin has long time talked about "one central information space" & that "we can not let negative image go around the internet"


defensetech.org is has alot of interesting info about cyber war, also russians them self talking about Team G ( expertiza.ru - use google web translator ). Also they have started massive attack against Georgia networks, similar tactics as they used estonia-russia.tk conflict but because IT infrastructure is not so strong in Georgia compared to Estonia they have been able to break in to many websites and upload hitler pictures etc. Georgia in respond has block all russia media channels & ru websites... (russians say its because they want to hide truth from georgians). But i was actually witness in estonia when russia TV channels „made“ news, i mean like „take two, now start to cry!“ things.

But im not so fluent expressing all the thing, so i let some smarter people to talk now

[Waffa]

Estonia will send specialists from Computer Emergency Response Team (CERT) to Georgia, Foreign Ministry representatives told the Baltic News Service.

Just for small update, Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Georgia mfa.gov.ge [IP: 212.47.222.163 - ee] is hosted in Estonia now for start
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to die for danzig? (great blog)
palun.blogspot. com/2008/08/to-die-for-danzig.html
"Itching for Eestima writes about the historical parallels between Estonia and Georgia and the fear of being invaded from the East, viz. by Russia."





Est. Cyber Superpower
businessweek .com/globalbiz/content/dec2007/gb20071217_535635.htm
So highly regarded is Estonia's online technology and security savvy that NATO's new cyber-warfare center will be based there.

Estonia Signs Cyber-Defense Deal with NATO Allies
dw-world. de/dw/article/0,2144,3337912,00.html
In the conflict, Russian hackers launched a series of attacks aimed at shutting down the Web sites of Estonian government services and banks in retaliation for Estonia's decision to relocate a Red Army war memorial.

The attacks, which Estonia successfully withstood, brought the concept of cyber-warfare to the top of the defense agenda and gave Estonia a reputation for front-line expertise in the field.

[DeadlyDaring]

Russian MEDIA is 100% controlled by the PUTIN GOVERNMENT

In that case only believe 1% of what they broadcast

[DeadlyDaring]

During the ceasefire in Georgia, Putin and Bush are taking a break by fishing in the Mtkvari River.

After half an hour Bush complains,
"Vladimir, I'm getting bitten like crazy by mosquitoes, but I haven't seen a single one bothering you."

Putin: "Those Georgian mosquitoes know better than that."

[82Rigger]

Deadly,

You have a WAY with words!

[DeadlyDaring]

[DeadlyDaring]

There is a famous saying,
“War doesn’t determine who is right, but who is left.”
People fight for liberty, for freedom, for dignity, but at the end, nothing is more important than being able to live.
Nobody considers themselves evil, the dark force is always on the other side. Liberation, on the enemy’s side, is called occupation.
Preparing for defense, on the enemy’s side, is called a sign of offense.
A war then starts.
We fight for people we never met, they fight against foreign invasion.
The war goes on.
People are dying.
Finally, we win, they surrender.
But look, the people that we used our lives to liberate, are all dead.