American (?) citizens

[SEATJERKER]

..."POP THE TURBAN",...

...see how far it bounces..............

[MarineAO]

Do we get to use our own rifles? If so I have a Remington Model 700 chambered in .308.

[reeb]

These "people" ( ifn ya call them that)

Should be ( this is morbid), but what the fuc- they are war criminals. anyhoo.

Put them all on a pole 6 poles, and in reality 7 cause of Walker.

Line up a whole bunch of VETERANS from each and every War.

Let each Vet take a shot at them one at a time, maybe one in the knee, one in the arm, one in the thigh, you get my picture.

Them turn the rifles over to the Gulf Storm and Present one there, and BANG, One right through the heart ( what heart), or to the middle of the forehead.

What pisses me and alot of you off is that these chicken shit bastards were trained by our best, of which are doing their duty as ordered.

Why dont they just go AWOL and wait the whole thing out? Long Long wait, but My God, turning against one of your own is the Devils Way......

enough...........

[Sgt_Tropo]

These six sick individuals are NOT AWOL veterans. They did not serve i our military. These slimeballs went to places like Syria and Afghanistan and other places to be trained to kill other Americans.
would be that they were AWOL soldiers, because then they would have already been courtmartialed for desertion and treason and subsequently shot.
These "people" are calling themselves "civilians". that's a winner, the word civilian means one that is civilized. I can't for the life of me figure how murders of their own countrymen can even remotely consider themselves "civilized".

[sfga6970]

This was my response to the same thread on Military.com


American "terrorists"
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If they are American terrorists who attacked our troops, they should be tried in a military court. Found guilty of treason and executed. Why should we have to pay to keep them in jail, feed them, educate them and perhaps let them out for "good behavior". They have given up their right to be called citizens.

De Oppresso Liber.

[BLUEHAWK]

What would any of us have said in the case of american civilians who fought with the Abraham Lincoln Brigade (which I believe was actually a battalion) against Franco?

[sfga6970]

You are comparing apples and oranges. The Abraham Lincoln Brigade did not attack Americans. They were more akin to the Lafayette Escadrille that fought in WWI for the allies before we entered the war. What we are talking about here are American traitors that mean to do harm to US soldiers.

[BLUEHAWK]

sfga -
I knew that, and am guilty of not making myself clear... what I was thinking about was how other nations see foreign citizens who fight against their governments, it just came to mind.

I confess to one worry, and a serious one about the case we are discussing here. If someone is, in fact, an american citizen, then they are always entitled to presumption of innocence and due process. Guilt by association, circumstantial evidence, claims of accessory guilt and the like have sometimes condemned the innocent. I don't know enough details about these cases, and am fairly sure none of us do yet, to be able to outright classify the accused as traitors. When I was 17 years old I would have gone along with practically anything our government claimed... unfortunately, that kind of innocent support is no longer possible. If I am not mistaken, at least in several instances already american citizens merely suspected of possibly having some association with terrorism have been detained without benefit of counsel or even contact with thir own families. It is not unlike being accused of child or sexual abuse in some ways... once the accusation has been made public, a person has a nearly impossible task to restore their reputation in their community. But, even if they are traitors, aren't they and shouldn't they be entitled to due process?

[sfga6970]

I do agree with you that there should be due process and a presumption of "innocent until proven guilty". I think that in this case, they are trying to use the US justice system to save their collective butts because they were caught.

We do have one of the best justice systems in the world and will defend anyone, no matter how heinous the crime. In this case it appears that they would rather throw themselves at the mercy of a US court system than suffer the consequences of a foreign (non US) system that is not as liberal or forgiving.

I have not changed my opinion that they should be tried by a military tribunal, since this should still be considered as an act of war against US soldiers/citizens. The civilian court system should not have jurisdiction or hear their case. JMHO.

[SuperScout]

To me, it's immaterial, except from a juriprudence perspective, if a person gives aid and comfort to our enemies as to ultimate punishment meted out. There are few crimes higher up the evil chain, for me, than treason, or any other means of giving aid and comfort to our enemies. Their punishment should be death, and I could care less by which method, speed, or lack thereof, or calibre. We have made a strategic miscalculation with the Robert Hansens of this world, by offering them life without parole, just for giving us the secrets of their perfidious behavior. They should be questioned, grilled or interrogated, by whatever effective means, irrespective of soundproofness of quarters, until all is learned of what they did, then escorted outside for their execution. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy could include many crimes against our people and country, and must be dealt with quickly, thoroughly, and in most cases, fatally permanently. The scum who were captured or seen in an Iraqi prison, may or may not be Americans, probably aren't, and shoud be tried by a military tribunal ASAP.