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Old 11-25-2003, 07:06 AM
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As it was in Vietnam, stateside public displays, and political indecision, are adding testicles to many in the Middle East who, before that time, lacked the will or the ability to fight, or engage in terrorism! (opinion)

In 1991, the Iraqis were kicked out of Kuwait in rapid order, and in 2003, the sprint across Iraq by Coalition forces (most of them American) was a wonder to behold! Getting from Point A to Point B, or landing upon the deck of an American warship however, does not a (total) victory make, as we are now finding out!

So who is at fault for this ?War Unfinished (TWICE)?? Certainly not the troopers in theater (they are the best of the best), nor the equipment at hand (it is state of the art), nor can our "UNIFORMED" leaders be singled out, as they do (just) what they too are ordered to do, the best way that they can!!

In my opinion, it is the political atmosphere (or is that circus), coupled with the usual street tripe being shoveled by many who fail to realize that their Constitutionally Guaranteed right to protest, just as they did in Nam, is causing American casualties and deaths in the Middle East!

Giving aid and solace to an enemy comes in many forms and shapes. Be it throwing bodies into a meat-grinder for political or financial gain, or showing an enemy (and much of the Middle East is just that - opinion) that the people of our great nation are not solidly behind their government! ?This is indeed a sad quandary!?

Were we correct in bloodying Iraq?s nose and removing "Hussein and his Flying Circus" from tyranical power - ?Your damned straight we were!!? These deranged and dangerous clowns had to go, a job that should have been culminated over a decade earlier! ?But then, that was then, and this is now!!?

We have but two ?REAL? choices in Iraq-Nam, as I see it? Either get the Hell out, or obliterate the place from the air, and let the Devil alone re-build it! "How after all, can you rebuild what is being re-destroyed on a daily basis?" And for the record, I doubt that it will improve much after we vacate this Hell-Hole!!

An elongated occupation and the United Nations are not an answer either! Occupation may get you eternal casualties, and the UN will merely usher back an era of the same old corruption, be it under another regime, that was there to begin with (another opinion)?

In Korea, Somalia and now within the Middle East, we have learned that you can not democratize Satan (the old silk purse out of a sow?s ear scenario)!! Either let them be to destroy themselves, and maybe others, as they gain in self-confidence, or blow them (literally) off of the face of the map from the air! ?They will do it to us, if they get the chance!?

What after all, is the good of technology, if one is not willing to use it to save the lives of Americans and friendlies - if indeed, there are many friendlies left out there that is?!

Either total war (W.T. Sherman), or no war at all! Fight to win , or don?t fight at all , as (so-called) containment only guarantees future engagement! Alas, it is sad but true - ?The only good damned enemy is a dead damned enemy! (No Book Reports Here, unfortunately!?)

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Old 11-25-2003, 10:20 AM
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Hardcore.

There is not a person on earth that can say it better than the truth you have written here. Surely there is a way to get you to Washington to speak to those at the White House and State Department on this very subject. If we could just get those in Washington off their ego trips and listen to the American people, there is a solution to this war, and it is not staying the course and fight for the next ten years or more.


However, you must realize this war is a money maker for those that is connected (manufacturers, dealers, and transporation)in some way with it .

I have always believe a dead emeny don't come back to fight later.
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Old 11-25-2003, 10:43 AM
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HC & Skeeter,

Let's post these Washington Official's in these countries. If they start this crap then they should be there to walk us through these difficult times instead of sitting on their as_es like they've been doing for so many years.

It's easy to send other's to do a man's job. It's easy to send a man into the theater of death since you aren't the one actually pulling the trigger. Have you noticed how difficult it is for them to confront the family members whose kids gave their lives for those who have never spent any time in uniform or in combat.

These times are tough ones. I'd rather have a congress of Veterans than these weasel's who are now in office. They not only have gray hair - but gray matter they call brains is no longer functioning.

The congress and the leadership of this country has not learned anything in all these war years. They are ducking the real issues and they've lost control of things as usual.

I agree we are in too deep now to back off. We've got to finish this holy mess and get our troopers back home. Just how we do that and save face is going to be a real trick.

Cut and run issues don't sit well with me when we've given so much in this conflict and others.

When you get words of wisdom such as those from HC, Skeeter and others on this site I can't figure out why they many of them are not running or holding public office.

These holidays are going to be tough ones for the family members of those soldier's who are in these hot zones. I only hope that those people who got them in there can find an honorable way to get them out as well.
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