Same sex marrage

[39mto39g]

President Bush got on TV and said he was for a constitusional amendment to define that a marrage is between a man and a woman.
The Democrats and Democratic news media said President Bush would outlaw Gay Marrages?
For 2,000 years the states have not allowed Gay marrages and it was just fine to let states handle there own state marrage-ing process. However, some judges and a Mayor think they can go outside of what the people want and do what ever they wish. Now normally I wouldn't care, except that the marrage that are performed in one state are binding in all states, For a lot of years this was no problem, now it is, And, I don't think the problem is the gay couples that get married, The problem is, if you don't define what a Marrage is than some dumb ass courts or mayors will allow marrage to your dog or your sister, and all states have to honor the marrage.
The constitution being amended shouldn't be taken lightly, and to have to do it because a few judges and Mayors decide to re-write what a marrage has always been is just sad, but, Nessessary.

Ron

[revwardoc]

Personally I have nothing against gay marriage since, in my opinion, banning it is discrimination, which is against the constitution. Some people say that homosexuality is a disease. I disagree. They're born that way and it's not something that can be cured. Telling gays that they have a disease but they still, if they want to marry, have to marry women (or men, for lesbians) is like telling someone who has MD that he HAS to walk because the rest of us walk. Just because gays can marry doesn't mean they're going to take over America. All they want is to live out their lives, like the rest of us, with someone they love, so let them! If the constitution is to be amended, let it read that marriage is the legal union of two (and only two) people regardless of race, color, creed, national origin or sexual preference (excluding blood relations, of course).

However, as I've stated before, I draw the line at them having or adopting children. Children are not mature enough to understand the implications of that lifestyle and should not be directly subjected to its ramifications. Let them be children in a heterosexual household. If whatever internal mechanism that it concerns leads them to the gay lifestyle, so be it. Its not something anyone but the individual can control. That's not to say that only heterosexuals are good parents. Believe me, I've seen some that should never have been allowed to breed but it's what's considered "normal" (and right?), but, still, kids should be given a chance to make their own decisions about their future lifestyles and not have something like homosexuality either forced upon them or serve as the basis for their lives.

[Stick]

Marry: 1. to join as husband and wife. 2. To take as husband and wife. (Websters)

Licensed Civil Union: recognized in many countries as a legal standing for tax purposes.
Gays can not join together as husband AND wife but should be allowed to register as a legal "Licensed Civil Union."
THE Book says "for this reason shall the two become one" and my God wrote that Book. Yet he condems homosexuality as an abomination. It seems to me that it would be an abomination on the state and country that would recognize a "Gay Marriage."

[39mto39g]

This is the reason for a constatutional ammendment, what you both stated. It doesn't band any marrage, It would define what a marrage is. And take it out of the hands of some judges or Mayors.

Ron

[theoddz]

The US Constitution specifically provides for SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.

The US Constitution also specifically guarantees EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW.

You can wish, until the cows come home, that an amendment to the US Constitution would be made to deprive a group of people of their right to "life, liberty and the persuit of hapiness". You know what that is called ???

One word.......DISCRIMINATION.

Depriving citizens of their rights is not what this country is all about and NEVER will the US Constitution be used to take away the basic human rights of the citizens it is there to protect.

Peace.

[catman]

Will someone please show me where the Constitution states anything about marriage? I personnel could not give less of a damn about who or what you marry but it is not a Constitutional right know matter what spin you put on it.

The Constitution also states nothing about robbing banks, drunk drivivng and a host of other "illegal" issues. So as long as it makes me happy it is my Constitutional right for me to do these things right?

This issue has got to be one of the largest wastes of time and money that ever came to be.

Trav

[BLUEHAWK]

I still don't think the government has any business whatsoever putting in their two cents about marriage at all... ever. None of their damn "bidness" (as my Okie friends like to say )

[catman]

Blue...I agree. And on that note, how can it be a Constitutional Right?

Trav

[BLUEHAWK]

Hell Trav, I have not got the slightest freakin' idea how anybody could possibly have come up with that... but I do believe it's fair to say that when somebody sees a buck to be made or a vulnerable place to have some control, why then there's a population of our fellow and sister citizens who just canNOT stop themselves from insisting that it's a "Constifreakintoosional" privilege... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Marriage ain't about man's ever changing so-called law... it's about private vows and promises, sacred sweet love, and for many it's also about their religion... NO government has demonstrated (to me) its capacity to understand any part of any of those human feelings.

Haven't they got better things to do with their staff and resources, such as BALANCE THE DAMN BUDGET!

[catman]

Exactly! You hit the mark Blue. Again, I'll state I don't care who or what you marry, that is not my concern as long as it doesn't interfere with my household. What pisses me off is every time someone or a group, no matter what the cause, wants to do something against the mainstream, they start yelling about it being there right. Bullshit! Just gives them an excuse to scream discrimination and by my definition that is blackmail.

I'll leave this forum now, because I can no longer talk about it without loosing my cool and that would not be fair to others. I know this has somewhat drifted away from the topic, marriages, and become an Constitutional issue and that is where I get pissed.

Marriages, who cares, marry a goat if you want to, but don't start screaming about it being your Constitutional Right!

Trav