John F. Kerry Ended his Military Career by lying ...

[SuperScout]

"I'm running to free our government from the grip of lobbyists," so stated John Kerry in his victory speech in Iowa. Later in the primary campaign, in his New Hampshire victory speech, he delivered a message to the "influence peddlers" and other "special interests" who, he asserted, now call the White House home: "We're coming. You're going. And don't let the door hit you on the way out."

As it turns out, the senator who has raised the most money from lobbyists over the past 15 years is none other than Mr. Kerry, according to a study by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics (CRP). In fact, he's the only senator to break the $600,000 barrier in individual campaign donations from those he calls "influence peddlers."

OK, OK, maybe it isn't technically a lie, but simply a gigantic example of his boundless hypocrisy.

[Ironside]

Originally posted by SuperScout "I'm running to free our government from the grip of lobbyists," so stated John Kerry in his victory speech in Iowa. Later in the primary campaign, in his New Hampshire victory speech, he delivered a message to the "influence peddlers" and other "special interests" who, he asserted, now call the White House home: "We're coming. You're going. And don't let the door hit you on the way out."

As it turns out, the senator who has raised the most money from lobbyists over the past 15 years is none other than Mr. Kerry, according to a study by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics (CRP). In fact, he's the only senator to break the $600,000 barrier in individual campaign donations from those he calls "influence peddlers."

OK, OK, maybe it isn't technically a lie, but simply a gigantic example of his boundless hypocrisy.

That's true. More than any other Senator, only to be outdone by who?

Yup, George Bush!

I'm not happy with Kerry for that either, but looking at the BUG picture he blows Bush outta the water.

You could find a few more things about Kerry, not to like. But, for every one, there's 3 for Bush.

[Seascamp]

Ok, I?ll bite. Exactly how many times has Bush slam-dunked a unanimous congressional vote that would have called on the current Vietnamese Government to be accountable for their human rights abuses? As a matter of record, Kerry acted to trash out a 411-1 congressional vote calling on the Vietnamese to do just that.
Subsequently Kerry?s cousin got a huge and financially lucrative deal from the Vietnamese Gvt. That?s all a matter of record as well and there was a subsequent investigation of Kerry and of course he was as pure as driven snow, as usual. No connects, right?

Scamp

[BLUEHAWK]

Wonder how a President McCain might've handled 9/11... pretty much the same I'd reckon.

[Ironside]

Originally posted by BLUEHAWK Wonder how a President McCain might've handled 9/11... pretty much the same I'd reckon.

That's a GREAT question, beings he was my pick for President. I ended up voting for Gore. At first I thought Bush handled better than Gore would have. Now with this quagmire in Iraq, I think Gore would have handled it better and would have held off, on Iraq.

This time around I wanted Bob Graham. I didn't jump on the Kerry bandwagon until that Vietnam Veteran stood by him saying he owed Kerry for saving his life in Vietnam.

Now, do we want to compare active service between Bush and Kerry?

[SuperScout]

Ah, the wispy winds of deep political convictions! First it's McCain, then it's Gore, then it's Graham, then it's Kerry. Absolutely laughable.

Here's a little info on what some of Kerry's wartime shipmates think of him: The Sun obtained reactions from two of Kerry's Swift Boat mates in Vietnam, who told the paper they were deeply disturbed by his anti-war activities. Kerry crewman James Wasser said he was "absolutely upset" over his former commanding officer's claims that the U.S. committed wartime atrocities as a matter of course. Saying he recalled no such war crimes, Wasser said of Kerry, "I felt betrayed." Shipmate Bill Zaladonis was also offended by Kerry's claims. "I didn't like the idea [of Kerry condemning his fellow servicemen]," he told the Sun. "I certainly didn't believe that all Vietnam veterans were baby-killing women rapers. Most people I know agree with me - they didn't see it." If you sell out your shipmates, you're unfit for office.

And thank you for sharing your opinion that the current situation in Iraq is a quagmire. I served in Vietnam for two years, and I know a quagmire when I see one, and frankly, Iraq ain't one.

[Ironside]

Originally posted by SuperScout Ah, the wispy winds of deep political convictions! First it's McCain, then it's Gore, then it's Graham, then it's Kerry. Absolutely laughable.

Here's a little info on what some of Kerry's wartime shipmates think of him: The Sun obtained reactions from two of Kerry's Swift Boat mates in Vietnam, who told the paper they were deeply disturbed by his anti-war activities. Kerry crewman James Wasser said he was "absolutely upset" over his former commanding officer's claims that the U.S. committed wartime atrocities as a matter of course. Saying he recalled no such war crimes, Wasser said of Kerry, "I felt betrayed." Shipmate Bill Zaladonis was also offended by Kerry's claims. "I didn't like the idea [of Kerry condemning his fellow servicemen]," he told the Sun. "I certainly didn't believe that all Vietnam veterans were baby-killing women rapers. Most people I know agree with me - they didn't see it." If you sell out your shipmates, you're unfit for office.

And thank you for sharing your opinion that the current situation in Iraq is a quagmire. I served in Vietnam for two years, and I know a quagmire when I see one, and frankly, Iraq ain't one.

Looks like you're being a little selective in your story. Here's what another shipmate say's about John Kerry.

On March 13, 1969, Rassmann, a Green Beret, was traveling down the Bay Hap river in a boat behind Kerry?s when both were ambushed by exploding land mines and enemy fire coming from the shore. Kerry was hit in the arm, while a mine blew Rassmann?s boat out of the water. With enemy fire coming from both sides of the river and swift boats evacuating from the area, Kerry?s crew chose to turn their boat toward the ambush to save Rassmann.
?We were still under fire, and he was wounded at the time?,? recalled Rassmann. And with his boat?s gunners providing suppressing fire, Kerry extended his wounded arm into the water and the two lieutenants locked arms.

Kerry and Rassmann have not seen each other since 1969. Yesterday, Jim Rassmann called John Kerry?s campaign headquarters and said: ?I saw that John is in another tough fight, and I want to lend a hand.?

Rassmann, a retired Los Angeles county sheriff who now lives in Florence, Oregon, flew to Iowa this morning to reunite with Kerry. Kerry, with fellow veterans around him, said he was moved by Rassmann?s decision to come to Iowa.

?I remember the day and the moment we last met; the lingering bond between us comes from the shared experience of our service,? Kerry said. ?I told Jim what I tell the thousands of veterans I have met in Iowa: As president, I will never?ever?forget your service.? Kerry added.

For Kerry?s bravery, Rassmann recommended that he be recognized, and Kerry was awarded the Bronze Star with Combat V. The citation that followed the award read as follows:

?The man was receiving sniper fire from both banks. Lt. Kerry directed his gunners to provide suppressing fire, while from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain, with disregard for his personal safety, he pulled the man aboard.

Lt. Kerry then directed his boat to return and assist the other damaged craft and towed the boat to safety. Lt. Kerry's calmness, professionalism and great personal courage under fire were in keeping with the highest traditions of the US Naval Service.?

It's a shame nobody can tell us stories about Bush's service, but nobody saw him doing his National Guard Duty in Alabama at the time over 300 Americans were being brought home in boxes, from Vietnam.

[catman]

well that's one for 500 against.

[Ironside]

Originally posted by catman well that's one for 500 against.

I see the more Veteran Groups supporting Kerry. Firefighters, too.

Imagine that!

[BLUEHAWK]

Nice graphics.

If his arm was bleeding with pain to a degree warranting the Bronze with V, then why did he not find himself in hospital, soon, or ever.