The Patriot Files Forums  

Go Back   The Patriot Files Forums > General > Political Debate

Post New Thread  Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-15-2009, 07:05 AM
darrels joy's Avatar
darrels joy darrels joy is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Indian Springs
Posts: 5,964
Distinctions
Contributor 
Arrow Tracking the Bailout

Tracking the Bailout


The decision on whether or not to allow the second half of the TARP funds to be released is the main headscratcher currently facing our Congress. President-elect Obama is threatening a veto if Congress passes the resolution to not allow the funds to be released. The political posturing seems to have our Congress quivering. They couldn't possibly expect to overturn The One's first major veto, could they? Perhaps if they understood just what's happening with all that money, they'd make the right decision without hesitation. Perhaps if we understood it better, we'd really be able to let them know what we thought! That said, follow me down the rabbit hole...

http://organizedexploitation.blogspo...g-bailout.html
__________________

sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 01-18-2009, 08:25 AM
darrels joy's Avatar
darrels joy darrels joy is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Indian Springs
Posts: 5,964
Distinctions
Contributor 
Default

http://www.readthestimulus.org/

Welcome to ReadTheStimulus.org !

Posted at 1pm on Friday, January 16th 2009

Welcome to ReadTheStimulus.org ! The site is a work in progress, so please bear with us as we add features and functionality to help citizens read and understand the 2009 fiscal stimulus bill. In particular, we will be providing the ability for visitors to add their own comments and feedback directly to the text of the bill shortly.
A key feature of the site that we hope will see wide use is the ability for bloggers or any other online publishers to link directly to an individual page of the bill text. The format is simple:
http://readthestimulus.org/index.php?doc=docversion&page=pagenumber

docversion is the particular document and version you want to link to. At the moment, the only document we have published is the 1/15/09 version created by the House Democrats, identified by "housedem0115".

pagenumber is the page number you want to link to.

So to link to Page 25 of the 1/15/09 House Democrat's stimulus bill text, you would use:

http://readthestimulus.org/index.php?doc=housedem0115&page=25


Feedback is welcome; please send email to info@readthestimulus.org.
__________________

sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-18-2009, 10:32 AM
darrels joy's Avatar
darrels joy darrels joy is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Indian Springs
Posts: 5,964
Distinctions
Contributor 
Default

Biggest Boondoggle in American History

January 18, 2009 Posted by John at 10:47 AM
We are living in a historical moment that in some ways represents uncharted territory. In other respects, however, the current moment is a return to a simpler and clearer past, when the hallmark of conservatism was opposition to extravagant spending boondoggles proposed by liberals. For a variety of reasons the fiscal battle lines have been blurred in recent years, but these days we are back to the paradigm that held sway decades ago.

Yesterday, Minority Leader John Boehner sent out an email on the House Democrats' ridiculous $825 billion "stimulus" bill. It is worth reproducing in its entirety:
A Dozen Fun Facts About the House Democrats' Massive Spending Bill

1. The House Democrats' bill will cost each and every household $6,700 additional debt, paid for by our children and grandchildren.

2. The total cost of this one piece of legislation is almost as much as the annual discretionary budget for the entire federal government.

3. President-elect Obama has said that his proposed stimulus legislation will create or save three million jobs. This means that this legislation will spend about $275,000 per job. The average household income in the U.S. is $50,000 a year.

4. The House Democrats' bill provides enough spending - $825 billion - to give every man, woman, and child in America $2,700.

5. $825 billion is enough to give every person living in poverty in the U.S. $22,000.

6. $825 billion is enough to give every person in Ohio $72,000.

7. Although the House Democrats' proposal has been billed as a transportation and infrastructure investment package, in actuality only $30 billion of the bill - or three percent - is for road and highway spending. A recent study from the Congressional Budget Office said that only 25 percent of infrastructure dollars can be spent in the first year, making the one year total less than $7 billion for infrastructure.

8. Much of the funding within the House Democrats' proposal will go to programs that already have large, unexpended balances. For example, the bill provides $1 billion for Community Development Block Grants (CDBG), which already have $16 billion on hand. And, this year, Congress has plans to rescind $9 billion in highway funding that the states have not yet used.

9. In 1993, the unemployment rate was virtually the same as the rate today (around seven percent). Yet, then-President Clinton's proposed stimulus legislation ONLY contained $16 billion in spending.

10. Here are just a few of the programs and projects that have been included in the House Democrats' proposal:

· $650 million for digital TV coupons.

· $6 billion for colleges/universities - many which have billion dollar endowments.

· $166 billion in direct aid to states - many of which have failed to budget wisely.

· $50 million in funding for the National Endowment of the Arts.

· $44 million for repairs to U.S. Department of Agriculture headquarters.

· $200 million for the National Mall, including grass planting.

· $400 million for "National Treasures."

11. Almost one-third of the so called tax relief in the House Democrats' bill is spending in disguise, meaning that true tax relief makes up only 24 percent of the total package - not the 40 percent that President-elect Obama had requested.

12. $825 billion is just the beginning - many Capitol Hill Democrats want to spend even more taxpayer dollars on their "stimulus" plan.
Preference for a smaller, more limited federal government is probably the single most universal feature of all strands of modern conservatism. Yet, as we have noted before, conservatives have failed to have much impact on the steadily increasing federal budget. This graph, which shows federal spending from 1965 to the present in 2007 dollars, pretty much says it all; click to enlarge:

Old-style conservatives have been discouraged by the movement's apparent failure to have any significant impact on the inexorable growth of government. Note, however, the uptick at the end of the graph. If the Democrats get their way over the next couple of years, we may see what happens when conservatives are entirely out of power in Washington: an explosion in federal spending and regulatory reach that threatens the foundation of our free enterprise system. If that doesn't energize and unify conservatives, nothing will.

Deficit spending is a subject on which the parties have almost switched roles. Traditionally it was the Democrats who were Keynesians (or just liked to spend money), and Republicans who warned against deficits. That began to change in the Reagan administration, and, as federal deficits failed to produce the adverse consequences, e.g. high interest rates, that had been predicted, opposition to deficits in both parties withered. If anything, Democrats have tended to don the green eyeshades in recent years, albeit not with much sincerity.

But what Congressional Democrats are now planning, by way of deficit spending, dwarfs anything in our post-World War II history, as this graph illustrates; click to enlarge:

It seems inconceivable that the deficits now contemplated by the Democrats will not have adverse effects, starting with inflation. Whatever those ill effects turn out to be, the Democrats will own them, just as they will own the tax increases that seem inevitable in the wake of the current profligacy.

We appear to be returning, in short, to an era more like the one in which the modern conservative movement was born.

If there was ever a time when America needed an effective conservative opposition, that time is now.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive.../01/022586.php
__________________

sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
big 3 auto bailout 39mto39g General Posts 63 02-19-2009 02:12 PM
Bailout! 82Rigger General Posts 3 05-06-2008 05:02 AM
CONVENIENCE v TRACKING DEVICE? HARDCORE General Posts 4 06-16-2005 02:02 PM
H-P launches ID tracking system MORTARDUDE General Posts 0 05-29-2005 11:45 AM
date tracking Max Cleland Patrick t. General 17 02-04-2004 01:11 PM

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.