Vietnam's Shadow Lies Across Iraq

Vietnam's Shadow Lies Across Iraq

(EXCERPT) By Stanley Karnow, Stanley Karnow covered Vietnam from 1959
to 1975. He is the author of "Vietnam: A History" (Viking, 1983) and a
winner of the Pulitzer Prize in history. His most recent book was
"Paris in the Fifties"

"By God, we've kicked the Vietnam syndrome," President George H.W.
Bush crowed after his swift triumph in the Gulf War in 1991. His
effusive proclamation was meant to suggest that the U.S. public had
finally shaken off the memory of the humiliating disaster in the Far
East and would henceforth underwrite fresh engagements overseas,
without guilt or anxiety.

But he was mistaken. His optimism notwithstanding, Americans remained
haunted by the specter of a defeat in some distant realm, and their
uneasiness continued as President George W. Bush made his plans to
invade Iraq. The younger Bush excoriated pundits who cautioned that we
faced a catastrophe there, and at first he seemed to have been proved
correct, as Americans witnessed the amazing speed with which our
battalions drove into Baghdad. But it has since become apparent that
Iraq, if not exactly "another Vietnam," could degenerate into an
equally calamitous debacle.

The experiences in Southeast Asia and the Iraq conflict have many
differences but are analogous in some respects...

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Inquiring minds wanna know...what's an "otis willie"?


Is that when you get yer pecker stuck in yer ear?

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/1955/faqawld.htm

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 1825 GMT, "!Dino\(noway\)"
wrote this crap:

>Inquiring minds wanna know...what's an "otis willie"?

Otis Willie is really Phil Coleman.

ignore him



Hero@Horvath.net

This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

obviously you didn't click on da link...

"Horvath" wrote in message
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> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 1825 GMT, "!Dino\(noway\)"
> wrote this crap:
>
> >Inquiring minds wanna know...what's an "otis willie"?
>
> Otis Willie is really Phil Coleman.
>
> ignore him
>
>
>
> Hero@Horvath.net
>
> This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

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But he's one of Frego's friends and Phil is his mentor.

"Horvath" wrote in message
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> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 1825 GMT, "!Dino\(noway\)"
> wrote this crap:
>
> >Inquiring minds wanna know...what's an "otis willie"?
>
> Otis Willie is really Phil Coleman.
>
> ignore him
>
>
>
> Hero@Horvath.net
>
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I think you look more like Phil than I do .. Especially your mother.


On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:58:02 -0700, "©Old Sarge®2003?"
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>"Horvath" wrote in message
>news:bl585p$26l$1@206.244.73.185...
>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 1825 GMT, "!Dino\(noway\)"
>> wrote this crap:
>>
>> >Inquiring minds wanna know...what's an "otis willie"?
>>
>> Otis Willie is really Phil Coleman.
>>
>> ignore him
>>
>>
>>
>> Hero@Horvath.net
>>
>This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe
>
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have you told everyone that your mother was black ???? Triple dare you to
call me a liar??



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> But he's one of Frego's friends and Phil is his mentor.
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> "Horvath" wrote in message
> news:bl585p$26l$1@206.244.73.185...
> > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 1825 GMT, "!Dino\(noway\)"
> > wrote this crap:
> >
> > >Inquiring minds wanna know...what's an "otis willie"?
> >
> > Otis Willie is really Phil Coleman.
> >
> > ignore him
> >
> >
> >
> > Hero@Horvath.net
> >
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>
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So what???
---Mac
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:06:15 GMT, wrote:
>have you told everyone that your mother was black ???? Triple dare you to
>call me a liar??
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SNIP SNIP SNIP

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You have a problem with my mother being Black? I've never
denied the fact that I'm bi-racial. Are we now going on a "hate
speech"
campaign against Blacks?? I think if you are, you are in the wrong
newsgroups.
Watch your P's and Q's because hate speech isn't free speech.

wrote in message
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> have you told everyone that your mother was black ???? Triple
> dare you to call me a liar??
>
>
>
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> > But he's one of Frego's friends and Phil is his mentor.
> >
> > "Horvath" wrote in message
> > news:bl585p$26l$1@206.244.73.185...
> > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 1825 GMT, "!Dino\(noway\)"
> > > wrote this crap:
> > >
> > > >Inquiring minds wanna know...what's an "otis willie"?
> > >
> > > Otis Willie is really Phil Coleman.
> > >
> > > ignore him
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hero@Horvath.net
> > >
> > This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe
> >
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> > as OldSarge*
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I have no problem with black people, but apparently you do. Is that why you
are so miserable and stalk, slander and harass people on the newsgroups? I
even saw one message where you sent a satellite image of a persons house
that you were stalking. You shouldn't do stuff like that because stalking is
crime. Now what is up with that purse?? It takes a real pussy boy to steal
an old ladies purse. Agreed?


"©Old Sarge®2003?" wrote in message
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> You have a problem with my mother being Black? I've never
> denied the fact that I'm bi-racial. Are we now going on a "hate
> speech"
> campaign against Blacks?? I think if you are, you are in the wrong
> newsgroups.
> Watch your P's and Q's because hate speech isn't free speech.
>
> wrote in message
> news:f7fb8bf9d245841b4ce46df15fd6d229@news.teranew s.com...
> > have you told everyone that your mother was black ???? Triple
> > dare you to call me a liar??
> >
> >
> >
> > "©Old Sarge®2003?" wrote in message
> > news:bl7lg7$79l$0@pita.alt.net...
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> > > But he's one of Frego's friends and Phil is his mentor.
> > >
> > > "Horvath" wrote in message
> > > news:bl585p$26l$1@206.244.73.185...
> > > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 1825 GMT, "!Dino\(noway\)"
> > > > wrote this crap:
> > > >
> > > > >Inquiring minds wanna know...what's an "otis willie"?
> > > >
> > > > Otis Willie is really Phil Coleman.
> > > >
> > > > ignore him
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hero@Horvath.net
> > > >
> > > This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe
> > >
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