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Old 04-02-2009, 07:37 AM
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LONDON - APRIL 1: The President of the United States Barack Obama (C back to camera) greets King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia (C) before the official G20 leaders photograph with Queen Elizabeth II at Buckingham Palace on April 1, 2009 in London, England. Obama is on his first trip to the UK as President and will be attending G20 world leaders' summit dedicated to tackling the global financial crisis.

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Old 04-02-2009, 08:01 AM
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WHY NOT???

A comparatively new Muslim King should always bow lower than a
much older & much longer enthroned Islamic King & Protector of The Faith.
Such is normally accepted Royal Muslim Protocol.

Betcha plain-old-Muslims similarly feigning: "I pray to Jesus every night",...
must even bow much lower to "Their" Main and/or "Top Gun" Muslim King?

Generally, the lower one bows the More Respect & Unquestioning Allegiance one shows.
Also wonder what that little blonde: "Body Language Expert" on FNC thinks about such?

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Old 04-02-2009, 09:38 AM
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So it appears that my misgivings about this worthless Bag of Sh*t are true after all - he's a closet muslim.
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Old 04-02-2009, 09:41 AM
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Obama bows down to Saudi King (updated)

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I am quite certain that this is not the protocol, and is most unbecoming a President of the United States.

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Update: See Miss Manners on the protocol. Americans do not bow to foreign monarchs because that act signified the monarch's power over his subjects.

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Old 04-02-2009, 10:55 AM
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Others are asking if the same people who mocked Bush for holding hands with the Saudi Prince (which somehow suddenly turned the most tolerant and inclusive political left and their accomplices in the MSM into inquisitive and tut-tutting homophobes) will knock Obama for genuflecting to our oil masters.

But… was Obama bowing?

My theory is that the president was only somewhat stooped over because he was trying to show King Abdullah what was on the iPod he brought over for him as a present. Naturally, it ended up being little embarrassing and somewhat insulting to the Saudis due to Obama’s insistence on “keeping it real” with what was loaded into the King’s gift:


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Old 04-02-2009, 10:59 AM
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It looks to me like they are looking at something. Any moving pictures of this?
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Have to somewhat disagree with your: "Is not the protocol".
We're NOT talking about regular Heads of State here.
We're discussing protocol between higher & lower Muslim Heads of State.

In that context of or regarding Miss Manners stating: "...act signified monarch's power over
his subjects".,...obviously Neil (me), Obama, King Abdullah & Miss Manners TOTALLY agree.

Obama MUST overly respect & bow to him. Since not A Devout Muslim,...I need not.

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Old 04-03-2009, 10:52 AM
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With bowed head and bended knee

By Thomas Lifson


Has anyone ever seen Barack Obama publicly bow and bend his knee when meeting someone prior to yesterday? I don't recall any photos of such a gesture of greeting, but I would be very happy if some of the President's defenders on the left could provide such evidence that his striking body language yesterday before the monarch of Saudi Arabia and custodian of the holy cities of Mecca and Medina was simply a habitual gesture of warmth.


(See also: Obama bows down to Saudi King and Would Abe Lincoln bow down to a slave-keeping Arab king?)

When meeting the Saudi King for the first time at a reception in London, the President of the United States unmistakably bowed deeply and even bent his knee. (at 1:37 in the following video)


The American mainstream media apparently paid no heed, and instead focused on Michelle Obama causally touching the Queen of England when introduced to the United Kingdom's monarch. If anyone has seen MSM paying attention to this signal event, a traditional acknowledgement of fealty, please let me know.


If it was not a gesture of subordination, why did the Saudi King fail to respond with a similar bow?


The left wing blogs are doing their best to ridicule reaction to those who reacted in horror to body language conveying subordination and fealty. A self-identified "community college professor" on the left wing site Firedoglake uses a lot of Anglo-Saxonisms in ridiculing conservative reaction:
The wingnut attention span just isn't that long, usually, and even by these cretins' standards this "story" is pretty thin drool.
"Thin drool" is priceless, isn't it? The expression is "thin gruel", but I guess this "professor" has good reason to write under a pseudonym. There's nothing more ridiculous than an illiterate calling others cretins.


Another lefty blog, Whiskey Fire is even more pathetic:
...note that Obama is about a foot taller than Abdullah, and so had to kind of contort himself to get into any sort of position to shake the sheikh's hand. (Ha ha that is a joke, shake the sheikh's hand.)
Prior to the bow to the Saudi monarch, lefty blogs were celebrating the First Couple's expected casual attitude toward the Queen. Democratic Underground wrote: (hat tip: Powerline):
Before the Kennedy's first state visit to England, Jacqueline Kennedy asked Duke whether she should curtsy to the Queen. He told her no because she was the wife of the head of state and heads of state and their wives do not go around bowing and curtsying to one another.

Three years later, after her husband's funeral, Mrs. Kennedy received guests in the White House family quarters. When Prince Philip greeted her, she curtsied to him. Duke was surprised because Mrs. Kennedy was a stickler for protocol and had a steel trap memory for such things. Noting his surprise, Mrs. Kennedy whispered to him:

"Angie, I'm no longer the wife of a head of state."

Duke said he immediately left the room and wept.

So, don't be surprised if Mrs. Obama does not curtsy to the Queen. (She didn't. She shook her hand. J)
Yes, it is true that George W. Bush held the Saudi monarch's hand and kissed his cheek. But hand holding by men is a common gesture of friendship, not subservience, in Arab culture, as is kissing of the cheek. And yes, Dick Cheney was awarded a medal by the Saudi monarch, and lowered his head so that medal could be draped from his neck on a ribbon. And receiving an honor is not the same as an immediate unreciprocated bow upon meeting a monarch for the first time.

There is no question that an unreciprocated bow is a gesture of subservience. Bowing is a very serious matter in many cultures. I have counseled hundreds of Western executives on the intricacies of bowing when dealing with Japanese business executives, stressing that an unreciprocated bow is a rude gesture of dominance. The body language is clear and unmistakable in all cultures.



Abe Greenwald of Commentary understands the symbolism:
Among Muslim democrats and human rights advocates, utter dejection that the "leader of the Free World" has offered himself as a "subject" of the Saudi monarch; among Islamists, bliss over America's seeming prostration before Salafist Islam; among international bad actors, assurance that America poses no threat; and among our allies, depression about the new systemic instability of the most dependable superpower in history.
The old saying that one picture is worth a thousand words is actually amplified when it comes to cross-cultural communication. I have little doubt that the Muslim world's media will not be as circumspect as their American mainstream colleagues in displaying the demi-prostration of the American leader carrying the name Hussein to the guardian of Islam's holiest cities.


Until evidence is produced that Barack Obama habitually bows and bends his knew before others, I will have to assume that he meant this gesture to carry meaning. It is simply amazing to me that our media will not even present this image to the American public.

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U.S. President Barack Obama (L) greets China's President Hu Jintao at the Nuclear Security Summit in Washington April 12, 2010. REUTERS/Jason Reed (UNITED STATES - Tags: POLITICS MILITARY IMAGES OF THE DAY)

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