France is Not a Western Country Anymore

[MORTARDUDE]

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=6976 France is Not a Western Country Anymore
By Guy Milliere
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2003


French-bashing is everywhere in the American media. I am French, and I must say if Americans knew completely what's happening in France, the French-bashing would be far harsher.

Jacques Chirac has been a friend of Saddam Hussein for more than thirty years. He allowed the sale of nuclear facilities to Iraq that were destroyed just in time by Isra?l. He sold Iraq the planes that were been used to gas thousands of Kurds. And Saddam is not the only friend Chirac has. Chirac has never met a ruthless dictator he did not like. Worse, Chirac is unprincipled and greedy. It is common knowledge in France that he stole a lot of money when he was the mayor of Paris, and everyone knows that if he had not been re-elected in May 2002, he would be in jail now. To hear him speaking about morality or international law nauseates every decent Frenchman.

And Chirac is not the only politician of this stripe in France. These days, it is becoming hard to find a French politician ready to speak about human rights, freedom or democracy. All of them seem to have the same speechwriter or to belong to the same totalitarian political party; all of them are anti-American, anti-Israeli and "pacifists." They regard Western civilization as something filthy and abhorrent.

If you read the newspapers, it's the same. At times it seems the only difference between the Soviet Union twenty years ago and France today is that in Soviet Union you had only one Pravda, and in France you now have at least ten such propaganda outlets: Different titles, same content. Their party line is clear in reporting on the personalities found in the present Middle Eastern crisis. Saddam Hussein, the "President of Iraq"? Well, maybe he has been brutal, but you know, in "those" countries... George W. Bush? He?s a "moron" - a former alcoholic, who has become a crazy fanatic, in fact the most dangerous man on the face of earth. Ariel Sharon? A fascist who loves to kill Arabs. Arafat? A great freedom fighter. When an American general speaks, it is merely propaganda, but when Tariq Aziz pontificates, it is pure truth. Almost everyday you hear anti-Semitic remarks, to boot.

The anti-Semitism has created a threat to the physical safety for French Jews. Almost every week, some Jews get mugged, simply for being Jews. Almost nobody pays attention to it. When an anti-Semitic act is so disgusting it is impossible to hide it, journalists will speak of "confrontation between communities." When confronted with the reality that these "confrontations" are always Muslims attacking Jews, the editorial response: "Just because there has yet to be a single documented case of a Jew attacking a Muslim yet doesn't mean it will never happen. . . ."

And Jews are not the only victims of France's new identification with radical Islam. In many French cities with a growing radical Islamist population, no teenage girl can go out in the evening, at least not without a full burqa. If she does, it will mean that "she is for everybody": in short, a whore. In the same cities, every teenage girl - regardless of religion - has to wear the Muslim veil if she does not want to be harassed or killed. Almost every month, a young woman is mugged and raped in a suburb of a big city. Gang rape has become so frequent that a new word, used by the rapists themselves to define their hideous actions, is used by everybody: tournantes (revolving). To the rapists, the woman is nothing, a mere object to be thrown away after use. The people who speak about "revolving" seem to forget a human being is involved as the victim. Policemen do nothing. Every decent person knows the problem is Islam, but no one dares to say it. It could be dangerous. The streets are not safe.

One year ago, a French Muslim decided to create a new business: he was tired of seeing people drinking Coca-Cola - all this money going to Americans! He found a factory and started to produce Mecca Cola. On the label, he put a picture of the Al Aqsa mosque, with a large part of his profits would help to support the Palestinian cause. In some suburbs of Paris, Coca-Cola has disappeared; Mecca Cola has replaced it. A few days ago, another Muslim businessman announced he will start to sell Muslim-Up. It will have the taste of Sprite or Seven-Up, but it will be a Muslim drink - and naturally the profits will go to the Palestinian jihad, as well.

Three radio stations in France are Muslim radio stations, and if you listen to them, dedicated to broadcasting the voice of hate and racism all day long. One radio station belongs to a friend of the rightist Jean-Marie Le Pen, and curiously, if you listen to it, you will hear the same voice of hate and racism. Rightists and radical Muslims have discovered they have many things in common.

If you want to understand why all this is happening, you have to understand one thing: thirty years ago, French governments started to have a new foreign policy. They called this new policy, "Arabian Policy." France became closer to Arab countries - all of them disgusting dictatorships. France "benefited" by doing business easily in these countries. In exchange, France had to push Europe to unknot its ties with Isra?l and the United States. In exchange too, "professors" came from the Arabian dictatorships to teach the Arabic language to the young Arabs living in France. The only book they used to teach the Arabic language was THE book, Al Kuran.

Now comes the time to pay the check: six million Muslims live in France, at least ten per cent of them are radical Islamists poised on the edge of violence. And these radical Muslims have allies on both the extreme Left and the extreme Right. France is not a Western country anymore, it is now the leader of the Arab/Muslim world. Israel has to know France is its main enemy. The United States has to understand they have nothing to expect from today's France except nastiness, treason, and cheating.

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[Staff_HQ]

Mortardude

Everyone has a history of trade with Iraq.
Either in the open, or under the table.
US supported Iraq and Saddam during the Iran-Iraq war.

I heard on the news this morning before I left for work, that some of the weapons and ammunition found in Iraqi bunkers were US.

Maybe this was ammunition sold to them during the Iran-Iraq war, or maybe this was sold to an another third world country and later found its way to Iraq.

I also heard on the news that CIA gave Saddam satellite photos of Iranian troop movement and position.

So, everyone has done their part in the past.
We can only regret that the coalition forces didn?t go all the way during desert storm.

I personally like France, I got married there. My wife had here dream come true when I gave here my yes there.

I have also met many of your countrymen there. Hell I even allied me with an old nice man, waiting outside a biiiiiig shopping building when our wife?s used all our money inside. We found a nice place and set down for a cop of coffee.

Staff_HQ

[MORTARDUDE]

Why don't you tell us your first name ? Would be better than calling you Staff.... anyway...if you remember Iran captured our embassy personnel for a year+ and we failed in a rescue attempt. So Iraq looked good as an antidote. France has done far more than we ever did...a la the nuke reactor that Israel blew up.
I think the article was right on the mark. They have always been contrarians and oddballs, but the center of Europe has shifted East and they don't count for much anymore. I am sure there are lots of nice people there...but I sure am not going to spend my hard earned shekels supporting any of them.

Larry

[Staff_HQ]

Mortardude

What kind of mortar are you experienced with.
Myself I have some experienced on the 81mm mounted on the
M125/A2 built on the M113 hull.

One of the best memories I have was when I was firering with the NM123 grenade (NM=Norwegian Model) with 8 charges. (Is that the right name of those white powder things that you use on the grenade?) The funny part is that the biggest charge allowed in peacetime is 6.
Well me and my friend that is platoon leader of a mortar platoon in my Cavalry Battalion, ducked down when each grenade went down the tube screaming, the pressure was asome, we even stared to nosebleed. The NM123 is more powerful than the other types of grenades in use.

Well that was off-topic. But funny as h........

My name is Thomas.

[David]

American companies have sold more then just ammunition to Iraq. We found many night vision scopes in Iraq the first time around. Nothing ever came of it for the manufacturer although they were banned sales. I guess they figured they did not use them effectively so why bother. The entire world is dealing under the table daily, trading and selling banned substances and weapons. No one is innocent.

[MORTARDUDE]

with mortars were first with ground mounted 81MM in AIT ( Advanced Infantry Training ). Then in Vietnam I was with a leg unit that used these for a month, then the other 11 months with a mech unit that used the 81mm in an APC / M113. I did the FDC gig for about 6 months. Then the journey continued to Ft. Hood for 6 more joyous months...NOT... where I learned the 4.2" mortar. Too much like artillery.....Is the NM123 you mentioned a Norwegian mortar ? Yes, those white powder packets attached to the mortar round are charges. We had an instance one time where some caught on fire in the midst of a fire mission inside the track. Could have been a bad scene with all the rounds stored inside. It got put out quick. We had a few missions where we used all the charges. It was real loud !!! Had another instance of a yo-yo with two rounds in his hand...a major mortar no-no..and he managed to drop one and forgot it wasn't out of the tube yet, then tried to put another one in. One of them sailed over my head about 20 feet high and exploded about 30 yards away. He got tongue lashed by the
an NCO and a few weeks later started picking up unexploded cluster bombs and throwing them in bomb craters..Scary dude !!!!
I can't say much about him as he saved my life by pointing out a trip wire I was about 6 inches away from hitting...

Rest Easy Joe C. where ever you are...

Larry

[Arrow]

WAR IN THE GULF: ON THE FRONT LINES: BATTLEFIELD TECHNOLOGY: Night vision gear gives U.S. an edge it wants to keep
Don't ship goggles to fighters in Iraq, Syria warned
Dave Hirschman - Staff
Saturday, March 29, 2003


Pioneering night vision equipment gave U.S. forces tremendous advantages during the 1991 Persian Gulf War --- and military leaders want to keep it that way. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld warned Syria on Friday to halt shipments of night vision goggles and other military equipment to Iraq. "We have information that shipments of military supplies have been crossing the border from Syria into Iraq, including night vision goggles," Rumsfeld said at the Pentagon. Syria denied the claim, but Rumsfeld said, "We have seen military supplies crossing the border. . . . To the extent that it goes on, we'd have to consider it a hostile act." Even though night vision goggles can be bought for $500 a pair or less on the Internet, it's illegal for U.S. manufacturers to export them. Iraq is known to possess Russian-made night vision equipment --- but it's limited to Iraq's most loyal troops and is said to be of lower quality than the kind U.S. forces use. "Our forces used to be the only ones in the world that had night vision equipment," said Jack Atwater, director of the U.S. Army Ordnance Museum in Aberdeen, Md. "Now it's not unique anymore. The Iraqis have it, and so do a lot of other countries." Every front-line U.S. soldier carries night vision goggles, monocles or rifle scopes. And U.S. pilots fly with even more sophisticated versions. Looking through today's military-issue night vision goggles turns the darkest night into a green-tinted day. It's possible to walk along a forest trail on a moonless, cloudy night without falling, and a person smoking a cigarette 500 yards away stands out like a beacon. U.S. soldiers practice carrying out complicated maneuvers and full-scale attacks in the dark --- a capability few military forces can match. Another key difference between U.S. and Russian-made night vision equipment is that the United States uses "passive" systems that don't emit telltale signals. Russian models are "active," like searchlights that throw out a narrow beam. But those beams of infrared light make users tremendously vulnerable because everyone with night vision equipment can see the source of the infrared light. "The Iraqi systems are like flashlights," Atwater said. "They broadcast narrow beams that are readily picked up by our passive systems." There are two basic kinds of night vision equipment. The first systems, designed in the 1940s and 1950s, amplified light from the moon or stars, or ambient artificial light. More modern thermal systems measure subtle temperature differences and convert them into a grid of video signals that resemble black-and-white movies. Current U.S. night vision equipment does both. Tanks, artillery, trucks and other metal vehicles that heat up during the day become plainly visible to thermal imaging systems after dark. And people and animals put out enough body heat to show up clearly, too. U.S. forces have used night vision equipment extensively in Afghanistan, where the opposition has few such technological tools. U.S. pilots take off and land airplanes and helicopters at unlighted airfields, and soldiers search caves for faint thermal images of enemies hiding inside. Frank Hanson, a former Navy pilot who tested night vision goggles in aircraft in the 1980s and 1990s, said the early models were difficult to use because they gave pilots of fast-moving aircraft little or no depth perception. But the technology has improved with each new generation of equipment. "The early night vision stuff was bulky, it had a narrow field of view, and it tended to be unreliable when the airplane was maneuvering," he said. "The new equipment is much, much better." Even the best equipment has limitations. Sandstorms such as those that have torn across Iraq's deserts in recent days can temporarily blind night and thermal imaging systems. But Iraq's tactic of darkening the sky around Baghdad with thick, black oil smoke is totally ineffective, Atwater said. "Smoke has no effect whatsoever on these systems," he said. "It's beyond me why they even bother."

[Staff_HQ]

Hey Larry.

The NM 123 is a Norwegian grenade type. You know Norwegian defence industry is one of the best and advanced there is.

For example, we produce and are the creator behind the 12,7 mm multi purpose ammunition. And many many other types of military materiell.

Thomas

[Staff_HQ]

I love night vision goggles.

Out on a 3 men recon patrol, we walked upp to a guard post, and was about 7 to 10 feet from him, he senced us but couldn see us.
There where no match taking him out.

Thomas

[reconeil]

Thanks (even though nothing truly worth being thankful about) for the French info. I never realized just how disgusting things have gotten regarding our fair weather and/or phoney friends.

Still, isn't it a-dirty-rotten-shame that The American Press/Media isn't/hasn't been so forthcoming about such political zealotry gone amuck? Guess this political-correctness and/or "We all gotsta love one another" deceptiveness has become a wordwide phenomina,...even as purposefully-phoney as most everyone knows such is.

Regardless, thanks again Dude and cheer-up. After all, and just like there are Americans and then there are Americans,...I'm sure there are French and then there are French. Plus, I can't believe that all French have turned against: "Liberty and Equality", as their enemy-of-mankind-patronizing and socialistic ruling elite apparently have.

Neil